Why did Liu Bang and Zhu Yuanzhang start to bring a rabble of generals and later became generals?

I think it should be understood in this way, that is to say, the people they led at the beginning are not necessarily elites, but the people who can go to the end with him should belong to the elite, that is, the people who have gone through elimination, their own quality is very good, that is, the best people selected from this group of people, in addition, these people may not have much experience at the beginning, but after decades of southern conquest and northern war, the military quality must have improved a lot compared to before. So from this aspect, on the one hand, it is eliminated from the original people, leaving a part, on the other hand, the original people with this potential, after decades of training, finally became elites, so I think we should consider from this aspect, they may have led a rabble at the beginning, but there may be some capable people in it, and there are also a group of potential people in it, and after they have been trained, they have also become capable people. So in the end, when these two people succeed, they will have many capable people under them, so we should think about it this way, that is, on the one hand, although many people in it are not capable, there are always capable people, on the other hand, there are some potential people in it, and after training, they will also become capable.

Liu Bang and Zhu Yuanzhang led a group of rabble at the beginning, but they also stood out from this group of rabble, and many generals later became pillars.

A good team depends on the belt, long-term practice and training, and finally let a group of ordinary people grow into powerful figures.

The times make heroes.

It's not that history creates heroes, it's that heroes have always existed, but the times are not suitable.

One will become famous!

Behind every famous general, there are countless soldiers who died in battle!

If you can survive to the end, you will naturally be tempered!

I think Zhu Yuanzhang's team is better, because Zhu Yuanzhang has a lot of soldiers and generals who can fight, and the winning rate is very high.

Zhu Yuanzhang's team is even better, because after Liu Bang's team established the Han Dynasty, they couldn't beat the northern nomads, while Zhu Yuanzhang's group could beat the northern nomads.

The front team is better, Liu Bowen can't compare to Zhang Liang, Li Shanchang, Hu Weiyong and others can't compare to Xiao He, Chang Yuchun, Xu Da and others can't compare with Han Xin.

Under different historical conditions, the two cannot be directly compared; And in terms of the hardship and success rate of the career, Liu Bang's team is even better.

I think Liu Bang's team is even better. Because Liu Bang has Han Xin and Zhang Liang, two talents who are both literate and martial, they not only lead troops to fight well, but also can formulate very good tactics, so Liu Bang's team is even more powerful.