What is the difference between the southward movement of the Yuan Dynasty and the Japanese invasion

The Qing Dynasty went south, it was a civil war, and it was completely different from the two foreign ones, although they were different nationalities, but Nurhachi.

The generation is the Ming Dynasty**.

Mongolia was an invasion, but Kublai Khan.

The adoption of the Han system, and the Yuan Dynasty later revised the history for the previous dynasty, which is equivalent to recognizing the dynastic succession, and the Yuan Dynasty has become orthodox.

And the other Mongol khanates did not. Because China is a country based on culture, not nation.

The difference between Japan's invasion of China and the above is that it did not win and ultimately failed, so there is nothing else to say.

There is no difference, to say that the difference is a success and a failure. They are all invading Han Chinese. None of these are good things. What kind of ethnic integration is just to maintain stability now. No matter who rules it, it is the sorrow of the Han people. Lament its misfortune and anger its indisputable.

The difference is that the Manchus are our own minority, the Japanese are Japanese, and, in addition, as advised, the narrow nationalists, the chauvinists, will only be spurned by the world, and will never end well.

In fact, the difference is only in whether or not the whole of China has been completely occupied, if it is really fully occupied, a few hundred years later, by virtue of the local advantages, and the integration of the nation, even if it is all changed to Japanese culture, but Japanese culture originated in the Han and Tang Dynasties, and then experts will say that in fact, the Yamato people are also one of the ethnic groups in China.

Forced national integration is, to be honest, a success and a failure.

Nothing was right upstairs. There are also narrow-minded nationalist ideas, all of which are very problematic.

Here is an explanation, what is aggression?

Aggression is a two-step process.

1. Territorial aggression.

2. Cultural aggression.

Territory invasion doesn't need to be explained, it's all understood.

Then the key lies in this cultural aggression.

In terms of military strength and combat effectiveness, the Central Plains of the Yuan Dynasty could not defeat Mongolia and was invaded by territory.

Similarly, the Central Plains of the Qing Dynasty could not defeat the Manchu Qing Dynasty, and it was also invaded by the territory.

This is because the military strength is not good, and the combat effectiveness is not good.

There are various reasons for this, such as politics and economy, so I won't talk about it here.

In short, it can't be beaten, so it was invaded.

The opposite is true when it comes to culture.

Thousands of years of civilization, cultural accumulation is quite profound.

The Mongols invaded the Central Plains, but culturally they were "counter-invaded".

They learned Chinese, learned Han culture, and even the Mongolian nobles gave themselves Chinese names.

The Qing Dynasty was the same, and there was still a Manchu feeling in the early days.

In the later period, except for some details such as braids, it was basically all "sinicized".

This is the cultural "anti-aggression".

The result of cultural counter-aggression is integration. Great national integration.

In this way, many peoples are merged into one large nation.

That is, we are now the "Chinese nation".

Japan did not spend a long time in China, 8 years of the Anti-Japanese War, more than 10 years in the Northeast, and the south was never occupied by Japan.

All this shows that Japan has not yet completed the process of "territorial aggression."

Not to mention "cultural aggression".

In fact, Japan had already begun cultural aggression as early as the Tohoku period.

At local schools, children are required to speak Japanese.

This is a manifestation of cultural aggression.

Cultural aggression, or cultural integration, is a long, long-term process.

Japan has been in China for a relatively short time and has not met the conditions for integration.

If Japan had completely occupied China for hundreds of years, the result would have been...

Hundreds of years later, the nursery rhyme changed: "Fifty-seven nationalities, fifty-seven flowers, fifty-seven nationalities are one family." ”

It may be said that there will be a lot of feces that are difficult to accept.

But this is objective, not subjective.

My opinion is that during the Yuan and Qing dynasties, people at that time did not have a concept of a state and a nation. Once the alien occupies the capital, they will find a bunch of reasons to convince themselves to submit.

After the Xinhai Revolution, China began to form the concept of the state and the nation, that is, the concept of the modern state, in which the invasion of foreign races was no longer acceptable.

Two years ago, there was an article called "Nationalism and the Formation of the Concept of the East Asian State", which elaborated on this issue in more detail.

The Mongols and Manchus culturally lagged behind the Central Plains, and after controlling the Central Plains, they still ruled by Han culture, and did not completely change the Han culture (of course, the Han people were regarded as inferior people, and the barbaric plundering and killing were still countless, but the way of life of ordinary people did not change).

Although Japan's invasion of the mainland ended in failure, it can be seen from its actions in Taiwan, the Korean Peninsula and the puppet state of Manchukuo that it will eventually use the method of cultural assimilation to force the people in the occupied areas to speak Japanese, and replace the Han culture with the Japanese culture (although Daiwa is deeply influenced by the Han culture, it is after all an independent culture), so the Japanese invasion of China can only be regarded as an alien invasion.

Personally, I think it's fair to say that the winner is king. The Japanese attempt to invade China was thwarted by China, and the Japanese methods of war were extremely cruel, so one might think that this was of a different nature. In fact, if Japan succeeds in occupying China, it will become a new generation of rulers of China, just like the Qing army once entered the customs.

Furthermore, there is a problem with your own problem. These three acts of alien aggression are all the history of China, and when we open the history books, the First Sino-Japanese War and the War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression are indelible marks in Chinese history.

If you want to talk about their differences, it is only the Chinese who defeated Japan, while the ancient Yuan kings defeated the Song kings, and the Qing Manchus defeated the Han people of the Ming Dynasty.

The Yuan Dynasty, the Qing Dynasty, and Japan were all related to the Chinese nation Before the Yuan Dynasty, the Mongols belonged to the Chinese nation, and the Qing Dynasty was the Jurchen people, and they were all branches of the Chinese nation (they had the same regional activity connections, the same homeland affiliation, and the same ethnic and cultural integration, and Japan did not have the above characteristics), while the main ethnic group in Japan was the Yamato people, which was historically affiliated with China, and was called the Wa State in ancient times, and it has always been a subordinate relationship, and there is no tendency to belong to the assimilation. That's why in Chinese history there is the difference you mentioned.

The former is the Chinese nation, and the latter is the Yamato nation. Moreover, in ancient times, Japan was a vassal state of China. During the Tang Dynasty, China was Japan's teacher, and the relationship between the two countries was friendly, but since the Meiji Restoration, Japan has formulated a "mainland plan" in a vain attempt to occupy China, which can be regarded as a "deception of teachers and annihilation of ancestors".

So Japan is the aggressor...

The Yuan and Qing dynasties were the regimes under the rule of China's ethnic minorities, and although they were alien races, this alien race was relative to the concept of the Han nationality as the main ethnic group, and did not involve the invasion of foreign independent regimes. And Japan's aggression against China is a sovereign state (the main nation of this country), a barbaric aggression against another sovereign country.

Because Japan does not belong to China If one day, Japan becomes a Japanese province of China, then the history after that will be called Chinese history Although the Yuan Dynasty and the Qing Dynasty are aliens, their lands are now in China!

The rulers of the Yuan and Qing dynasties belonged to China's ethnic minorities, that is, the conflict between the Chinese family and brothers, while the Japanese did not belong to China, so it was colonial aggression.

Although they were also invading, Japan's purpose was to conquer our Chinese nation, and the Yuan Dynasty and the Qing Dynasty were integrated with China and assimilated by China, which was a history of development in Chinese history, so it was recognized by history.

That's an interesting question! The few people upstairs are poor, the Mongols and Manchus were not considered Chinese nations before they entered the Central Plains. The fundamental difference is the purpose of the invasion.

The purpose of the invasion of the Mongol and Manchu rulers was to replace the rulers in power, not to exterminate the Chinese nation, the broadest foundation of their power was still the Han people, there were examples of the Mongol and Manchu plundering the Han population in history, and the rulers did not have many policies of slaughtering cities after entering the Central Plains (there were, but after all, there were not many) They still relied on the Han people as the main part of the country; And the purpose of the devil is not simply to destroy our **, but to occupy our land and resources, to exterminate our nation, to reduce the Chinese to the status of slaves instead of normal citizens, and then replace them with the Yamato nation. At that time, China was considered a colony in Japan, and that was the difference.

The Yuan Dynasty was a Mongol and the Qing Dynasty was a Manchu, both of which were Chinese nations.

Japan is a vassal state of China, and although it is of the same Asian race, it is a foreign race, although it is assimilated by different races.

Moreover, Japan's goal was fascist aggression, the expansion of the small and the nation, and the extermination of our Chinese species, while the former was the replacement of dynasties, so that China could move from chaos to rule, so that the Chinese nation could develop, and the land of the Yuan and Qing dynasties was all Chinese soil, and they multiplied on top of it.

It was not understood at the time, but later generations could understand it.

There was only one result of Japan's successful invasion of China, that is, there was one more nation in China, and there were 57 nationalities. So I think the first floor is right, the former succeeded, the latter failed. Those who say that the Yuan Dynasty and the Qing Dynasty belonged to the Chinese nation after all, and that Japan was a foreigner are people who do not understand history, confusing the time and the present, when they were also foreigners, and only became the Chinese nation after the successful invasion.

In the Yuan Dynasty, the ancestor Kublai Khan once issued an edict in the world, saying that the Yuan was unified after Yao Shun, Shao Baiwang, and worshiped the Chinese ancestors three emperors and five emperors in the country, admitting that it and the Han people were all from the three emperors and five emperors, more Song, Liao.

That's the difference between a little devil and a Mongolian.

The Mongols rose as a nation under Chinese rule.

Let's put it simply.

The Mongol Jurchens succeeded.

We Han people failed.

So let's be affectionate and say we're family.

The Japanese failed.

We Chinese succeeded.

So we have to say that we are successful people.

If you dig deeper, the front is also a foreign race, the key is a harmonious society now, and then there is China, isn't there a Mongolian and a Manchu, there is no Japanese, the Manchus are almost assimilated now, the key is that there is a Outer Mongolia, so there are some things that cannot be studied deeply.

The former established its own era and integrated into the Chinese nation, while Japan adopted a policy of assimilation and demanded that the Chinese nation be integrated into Japan.

Manchurian and Mongolian are all Chinese nations, while Japan is the Yamato nation, but it was previously our vassal state, not the Chinese nation.

The former should now be seen as an internal struggle in China.

The latter is certainly an alien occupation.

Both the Mongols and the Manchus are part of the various ethnic groups of China, while the Yamato are foreign ethnic groups.

China can be conquered but cannot be assimilated or exterminated, the state form can be destroyed, but the national consciousness cannot be destroyed. Although the Mongols and Manchus conquered the Central Plains, but in the end they had to accept the culture and system of the Central Plains, the emperors of the Manchu Qing Dynasty began to sinicize Nurhachi, and the emperors after Qianlong could not even speak Manchu, they were simply Han Chinese. The Japanese invaders, on the other hand, attempted to destroy Chinese culture and replace it with Japanese culture, which was doomed to fail.

The Japanese were also unlucky enough, just in time for World War II, and there were too many enemies. Otherwise, China will surely perish.

Lao Mei is more powerful than Japan can imagine.

The Pacific War caused Japan to lose air supremacy, the navy was completely wiped out, and the front-line army was almost completely lost.

I don't believe in great nationalism, it took 20 years for the Qing army to enter the customs, and Japan took most of China in just over 1 year, if it weren't for the Pacific War, maybe China would have been a province

If there is a great man and a president, Japan will not be able to destroy China.

The principal is here for a day, don't try to invade China!!

On the side of the Yuan Dynasty, there were many different ethnic regimes on the territory of China at that time, such as the Liao, Jin, Mongolian, Han, and Western Xia, but in fact, the Han people's control was only south of the Huai River.

Again, at that time, Mongolia was the first to go to Central Asia, West Asia, and Eastern Europe. In this way, a lot of population and resources are controlled, and advanced science and technology are obtained, and there are new types of ** in the world (such as Xiangyang cannon).

Japan: First of all, he doesn't have the ability because the front is too long and the troops are insufficient.

Second, Little Japan burned, killed, and plundered in China, which was unpopular with the people.

Third, it actually provoked the United States and Britain, and it was beyond its means!

Fourth, the United States already had a nuclear bomb at that time.

Whether he has that ability or not is one thing])).

The Yuan Dynasty army attacked Japan in the late 13th century, known as the Kamakura period of Japan, which was essentially a war of aggression. At that time, Kublai Khan, the reigning ruler of Mongolia, attacked Japan one after another. However, because of the hurricanes at sea during the sea crossing three times and twice, the Yuan Dynasty army suffered heavy losses every time it attacked Japan, and did not achieve great results, so it can be said that it ended in failure.

On the one hand, the reason is that the Yuan Dynasty army has a low quality of water warfare, the Yuan Dynasty army is excellent in land operations, and sea operations are weak, and the two sea-crossing operations against Japan are weak instead of strong; On the other hand, the army of the Yuan Dynasty was not well prepared for battle, and there was no follow-up support force after crossing the sea and suffering from strong sea winds, and the composition of the army that invaded Japan was composed of Mongols, Koreans, Jurchens, etc., and the army was not uniform; On the other hand, it was indeed subjected to a powerful sea hurricane. To sum up, this is the real reason for the failure of the Yuan Dynasty's two invasions of Japan.

The reserves were not well prepared, and the troops were not replenished in a timely manner.