If Xiang Yu crossed the river at the beginning, could he compete with Liu Bang for the world again?

It is not impossible for Xiang Yu to stay in obscurity after crossing the river, but the possibility is very small, because the Jiangdong boy he brought over has already been buried in his hometown, will the Jiangdong fathers and villagers still trust him?

No, Xiang Yu's elite troops were almost lost, and they simply didn't have the strength to fight Liu Bang again.

I find it difficult. Even though Xiang Yu crossed the river and retained some strength, Liu Bang was already deeply rooted, and it was not easy to regain the world.

Even if Xiang Yu crossed Jiangdong, according to the situation at that time, he would not be able to defeat Liu Bang. Xiang's army was defeated, and the soldiers were all depressed, hoping for peace, and missing their hometown very much, and many of Xiang Yu's men left him or died in the battle with Liu Bang.

Liu Bang's troops are strong, his generals are very large, and with the help of Han Xin, Liu Bang is in an advantageous position in every aspect. Xiang Yu doesn't know how to care about the people, and he doesn't understand the people's feelings, so naturally the people also think that he is a tyrant, and even think that he is a vicious tiger, and they dare not approach him, nor dare to approach him, hoping that he will never appear in front of him.

Xiang Yu's general trend has gone, even if Xiang Yu passed Jiangdong at that time, it would be difficult to defeat Liu Bang. The reasons for this are as follows:1

Xiang Yu's employment is missing, the first is not good at using villains, Liu Bangzuo Sima Cao reported to Xiang Yu without injury before the Hongmen banquet, in order to ask for a reward, but Xiang Yu disdained it. Second, the personal ability is too strong to give full play to the independence of the generals below, and third, you can't use all means to win over talents, Han Xin's defection to Liu Bang is a good example. 2.

Liu Bang was born as a gangster, and he was scheming and scheming before the uprising, and he knew how to use people well. The advantages of employing people are as follows: first, a large number of appointments, as long as talented people are allowed to use them, second, always be vigilant to prevent grass on the wall, third, arrange their own cronies in the major alliance forces to balance, and fourth, establish a strong political power of the abundant old people's group. Therefore, the battle between the project and Liu Bang's Chu and Han is a battle for talents, although the project is powerful, but it is always no match for Liu Bang's power strategy.

Sad, Chu Overlord!

In 202 BC, China's first unified feudal dynasty, the Qin Dynasty, was born. Today's World Heritage Site The Terracotta Warriors and Horses of Qin Shi Huang in Shaanxi, China, are relics left by this dynasty. Another world cultural heritage, the Great Wall, also began to take shape during the Qin Dynasty.

Because the rulers of the Qin Dynasty were so happy, especially the lavish palaces and mausoleums built by Qin Shi Huang for himself, the court spent a lot of money, so the exploitation of the common people was very cruel, and constantly provoked the people to revolt. As a result, after 15 years, the Qin Dynasty was overthrown. After the fall of the Qin Dynasty, there were two forces vying for new national dominance, one led by Xiang Yu and the other by Liu Bang.

Xiang Yu is a general from Chu Di, with a strong, arrogant, and heroic personality. Liu Bang was a low-level bureaucrat before the Qin Dynasty was wiped out, and his personality was somewhat cunning, but he was very good at employing people. In the war against the Qin Dynasty, the two had become brothers and supported each other.

As soon as the Qin Dynasty fell, the two turned against each other.

Initially, Xiang Yu had an absolute advantage. He proclaimed himself the "Overlord of Western Chu", which was equivalent to the emperor, and Liu Bang was named the "King of Han", which was only equivalent to the princes and kings. In order to preserve his strength, Liu Bang ostensibly recognized Xiang Yu's dominance, and secretly recruited talents and developed the army.

Gradually, Liu Bang and Xiang Yu were evenly matched.

The war between Xiang Yu and Liu Bang lasted for several years, and it is known in history as the "Chu-Han Dispute". Once Xiang Yu defeated Liu Bang and captured Liu Bang's father and wife. Xiang Yu took Liu's father as a hostage, demanded that Liu Bang surrender, and threatened that if Liu Bang did not surrender, he would kill his father and cook soup to drink.

Unexpectedly, Liu Bang actually said to Xiang Yu: "We were brothers when we resisted Qin, and my father is your father, if you use 'our father' to make soup to drink, don't forget to give me a cup." Xiang Yu had no choice but to send Liu Bang's father and wife back.

The life-and-death battle between Liu Bang and Xiang Yu took place in a place called Qixia (in present-day Anhui). After a fierce engagement, Liu Bang's army surrounded Xiang Yu and his army. Although Xiang Yu was already at a disadvantage, he still had 100,000 troops, and Liu Bang could not eliminate Xiang Yu at once.

If you look at it from the ancestral hometown, Zhu Yuanzhang should be regarded as a person who has been born in Jiangdong to unify the whole country. According to the inscription of "Zhu's Shide Tablet" written by himself, it is recorded: "The Zhu family of this sect comes from the Jurong of Jinling, and the place name is Zhujia Lane, in Tongde Township." ”

There are also quite a few characters on the side of Jiangdong:

King Wu Lu, one of the five tyrants of the Spring and Autumn Period. In the ninth year of the reign of King Wu (506 B.C.), Sun Wu and Wu Zixu led the Wu army, won five battles and five victories, conquered Yingdu, the capital of Chu State, and forced King Zhao of Chu to flee.

Goujian, the king of Yue, in 473 BC, destroyed the state of Wu and became the last overlord of the Spring and Autumn Period.

Qian Biao was the founder of Wu Yue Kingdom during the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period.

The Eastern Wu built by Sun Quan was also one of the Three Kingdoms.

Chen Ba was the founding monarch of the Chen Dynasty during the Northern and Southern Dynasties.

But Xiang Yu cannot be regarded as a native of Jiangdong, Xiang Yu is a native of Suqian, Jiangsu. Xiang Yu followed his uncle Xiang Liang in the early years of the uprising against Qin in Wuzhong, which means that Xiang Yu's exploits began in Jiangdong.

Xiang Yu established himself as the overlord of Western Chu with the nine counties of Liang and Chu, and built his capital in Pengcheng, an important town in Western Chu, with the country name "Western Chu", and Pengcheng is Xuzhou.

Liu Bang was born in Zhongyangli, a subordinate county of Xuzhou, located at the junction of Sulu, Henan and Anhui provinces. Suqian and Xuzhou are separated by more than 100 kilometers. Liu Bang and Xiang Yu can be said to be fellow countrymen to a certain extent.

Su Shi, the Taishou of Xuzhou in the Northern Song Dynasty, said in the article "The Book of the Emperor": "Han Gaozu, Pei people also; Xiang Yu, a native of Suqian; Liu Yu, a native of Pengcheng; Zhu Quanzhong, a native of Dangshan: all of them are hundreds of miles away from Xuzhou. Its people are conceited and fierce, and they accumulate into customs. ”

Xuzhou is the hometown of the famous emperors and generals, and it is said that "the emperor of the Nine Dynasties is from Xuzhou", and it is called the "ancient dragon enclave".

It can only be said that there is a possibility, but Xiang Yu's fate will eventually lose to Liu Bang because there are other fundamental reasons, and it has little to do with Jiangdong, these reasons are:

1. Strategic aspects.

Xiang Yu has never been able to have a fixed rear supply, the grain and grass are exhausted, and he is suspicious of his father Fan Zeng. He was definitely the premier tactician of his time, and the combat effectiveness of his army was far from that of other armies. But he is not a strategist and a politician.

His defeat was a strategic failure, and a deeper defeat was a political failure.

2. Personality.

Liu Bang is ambitious, and Xiang Yu is bright-sighted. We can prove this by the mentality they showed in the face of victory. In October of the third year of Qin II, Liu Bang attacked Guanzhong, and later Xiang Yu also entered Xianyang, and they won the victory of overthrowing the Qin Dynasty.

In the face of this victory, Liu Bang and Xiang Yu's performances were completely different. Liu Bang did not kill children and infants, he was not rewarded for three chapters of the law, he did not commit any crime in autumn, and he withdrew from the palace of King Qin and returned to the army. And Xiang Yu didn't look down on Liu Bang at all, proud, complacent, and self-righteous.

3. People's livelihood.

At that time, after Xiang Yu successfully attacked the city, Xiang Yu burned down the palace of the Qin Dynasty, which was unpopular, Xiang Yu did not use his brain at all, so he did it. After doing it, someone came out to persuade Xiang Yu, saying that Xianyang is the capital of the emperor, and if you want to call the emperor the emperor, you should set the capital Xianyang. However, at this time, Qin's palace had been burned down by Xiang Yu, and there was no place to live, so Xiang Yu thought about going home again and going back to his hometown.

4. Discern talents.

Xiang Yu did not recognize talents, and talented people (such as Han Xin) turned to Liu Bang. His only loyal Fan Zeng eventually left him. Liu Bang reuses talents, and his subordinates Zhang Liang, Xiao He, and Han Xin are known as the "Three Heroes of Hanxing".

5. Conform to the trend.

After Xiang Yu destroyed Qin, he did not follow the trend of history and take measures to continue to strengthen the unity of the country, but went against the trend of history to restore the feudal system, which caused rebellions to occur everywhere soon after he divided the kings. Just when he was struggling to cope, Liu Bang's power soon became stronger.

Even if Xiang Yu can escape across the river, it will only delay his life for a few days, and there is basically no possibility of a comeback.

There are only two possibilities for the whole army to be wiped out in battle and regain its strength. One is that there is still a solid base in the rear, and the other is that they themselves are rogue bandits, and as long as there is a social environment that gave birth to them, there is a chance to make a comeback. Xiang Huang Chao and Li Zicheng were once in a desperate situation, and then they grew again.

Xiang Yu does not meet these two conditions. When he divided the princes, he gave himself the largest piece of territory, with a total of nine counties. According to scholars' research, these nine counties may be:

Huiji County, Surabaya County, Xue County, Donghai County, Dongyang County, Chen County, Dong County, Dang County, Langxie County. Except for Huiji County, which is south of the Yangtze River, the other eight counties are all north of the Yangtze River. After the Battle of Qixia, Xiang Yu's territory in the eight counties north of the Yangtze River was lost.

Only Huiji County in the Jiangdong region, where he first raised troops, remained. The situation at that time is roughly as follows:

Even if Xiang Yu can successfully escape the Yangtze River and get the support of Jiangdong's fathers, all he can occupy is the small territory around Suzhou. The southern part of Zhejiang and Fujian Province were the land of Dongyue at that time. Most of Jiangxi is now the territory of Fanjun Wu Rui.

And Wu Rui and Dongyue were both allies of Liu Bang at that time. At that time, there was still a considerable gap between the social development and population density of the areas south of the Yangtze River and those of the Central Plains. The chief of Wujiang Pavilion said to Xiang Yu, "Although Jiangdong is small, the place is thousands of miles, and there are hundreds of thousands of people, and it is enough to be a king."

However, Liu Bang's soldiers at that time were probably more than hundreds of thousands.

Huiji is also a guest place for Xiang Yu, and he ran away with Xiang Liang to avoid revenge. He was a native of Xiaxiang County (now Suqian City), so he chose Pengcheng (now Xuzhou City) as his capital. When the tiger fell to Pingyang, it is difficult to say how loyal the children of Jiangdong are to him.

Because he saw that all his soldiers died, saw his own embarrassment, and didn't want Wang Pei to leave these soldiers, he felt sorry for these soldiers and the elders of Jiangdong when he left alone, so he chose not to kill himself in Jiangdu; I think it is impossible for Xiang Yu to compete with Liu Bang even after crossing the river, because he has lost a lot of troops, and his strength is already much inferior to Liu Bang, so it is impossible to compete with Liu Bang. Trapped in this finger.

He was afraid that the villagers would be disappointed in him, and he had no confidence in the defeat many times, because he was from Jiangdong, and if he passed Jiangdong, Liu Bang would send troops to disturb the lives of the villagers; He can compete with Liu Bang after Jiangdong.

Because Xiang Yu felt that he had no face to face Jiang Qi's fathers and fellow villagers in the east, he was reluctant to go over; If Xiang quietly fights Nianyu and chooses Jiangdong, then he will definitely be able to compete with Liu Bang.

Because of the closure and destruction of Xianqing, Xiang Yu felt shameless to face the fathers and villagers in Jiangdong, and he was unwilling to go over, if he chose to cross Jiangdong, then he would definitely be able to compete with Liu Bang.

This one looks like one problem on the surface, but it's actually two problems.

The first is: After Jiangdong, can you defeat Liu Bang by recruiting troops again?

The second is: If Liu Bang is defeated, can he dominate the Central Plains?

Let's look at the first one first.

According to the situation at that time, it can only be said that Xiang Yu has a chance to defeat Liu Bang after crossing Jiangdong, but the chance is very small. Why? Because at this time, Liu Bang's wings were already quite plump Zhongshen Kai, civil officials and military generals, too many to count, Fan Xu, Han Xin, Lu Xuan, Zhang Liang, Xiao He are all characters.

And Xiang Yu, who was brave and brave, squeezed out all the talents around him. Rigid and self-serving, Fan Zeng said that he was inadequate, reckless, and indecisive, which was the reason for the supervisor.

For objective reasons, Xiang Yu is a person who loves to kill, and it is also recorded in the "Historical Records" that everywhere he goes, not a single inch of grass grows, burns and plunders, and the people's resentment boils. Why can Liu Bang chase to the Wujiang River, isn't it that Xiang Yu's subordinates have already betrayed and defected.

So no matter what, Xiang Yu was no longer able to defeat Liu Bang at this time.

Second, it can also be seen from the first that it is fundamentally impossible for Xiang Yu to dominate the Central Plains. Because it has lost the hearts of the people. Another one is that Xiang Yu has lost a chance.

Before the Hongmen Banquet, it was easy to kill Liu Bang, but Xiang Yu attached great importance to affection, this is right, the fault is in the right person, and the wrong time is wrong. Don't be ruthless when you should be ruthless, and slaughter the city when you shouldn't.

How can such a person dominate the Central Plains, and how can the people feel at ease? How is it possible to get the support of the people?

In the final analysis, Xiang Yu has love, but it is only a small love, he only loves the clan and only loves the people in his hometown. For the Qin people, he hated it so much, so he could slaughter the city without blinking. This is the biggest difference from Liu Bang.

No, Xiang Yu is not Gou Jian. He didn't have the will to lie down and taste the guts. Besides, Xiang Yu had nothing left at that time.

He could have crossed Jiangdong, but he didn't, and the heroism in his bones caused him to have no face to face Jiangdong's fathers. So, even if I did, I don't feel like I'm going to be beaten.