Is there Chen Dalei in My Brother is Shunyu in history?

Who may be the archetypes such as Chen Dalei and "Grand Commander" in the play?

During the Anti-Japanese War, the Lianghuai area was the area where the Second Division of the New Fourth Army was active, and the commander of the Second Division was the famous "from slave to general" of our army's famous general Luo Binghui, who should be the prototype of the "Great Commander".

According to the clues mentioned in the play that the New Fourth Army and the Kuomintang Army jointly attacked Huaiyin, it can be known that the Sixth Division of the New Fourth Army under which Chen Dalei was the commander was active near Huaiyin, and the only generals in the New Fourth Army who could contact the "Division Commander" and "Huaiyin" were probably Cheng Jun and Chen Qingxian. And in connection with the two clues of the surnames "Chen" and "Sixth", the prototype of Chen Dalei should only be Lieutenant General Chen Qingxian. According to relevant information:

Chen Qingxian, formerly known as Chen Changfa. A native of Huangpi, Hubei. In the winter of 1932, he joined the Chinese Workers' and Peasants' Red Army in northern Sichuan.

He joined the Communist Party of China in the autumn of 1933. He used to be the commander of the independent company of the district, the platoon commander of the 35th Regiment of the 12th Division of the Red Fourth Front Army, and the company commander, deputy battalion commander and ** battalion commander of the independent battalion in Wanyuan County, Sichuan. In March 1934, he served as the commander of Wanyuan County, and later served as the secretary of the Wanyuan County Party Committee of the Communist Party of China.

Participated in the anti-"siege" struggle to consolidate and develop the Sichuan-Shaanxi revolutionary base areas. In the spring of 1935, he successively served as secretary of the Langzhong County Party Committee and Zitong County Party Committee of the Communist Party of China. In May, he accompanied the Long March of the Red Fourth Front Army, and in June, he was appointed secretary of the Zhuokeji and Aba Special Zone Committees of the Communist Party of China, and in November, he was appointed secretary of the Zhuo Sijia Special Zone Committee of the Communist Party of China.

In April 1936, he was appointed Director of the Organization Department of the Jinchuan Provincial Committee of the Communist Party of China. July with the red.

2. The Red Fourth Front Army marched north.

In "My Brother is Shun Yu", Chen Erlei (Shun Yu) was finally killed by a grenade.

Specific plot introduction: Shunyo climbed the water tower in the distance and aimed at Sakata. Shun Shun gun rang out, he did not shoot Sakata, did not shoot at any Japanese soldier, but aimed at the Japanese sun flag flying high on the mast of the ship, a ** broken flag rope, the Japanese flag like a broken kite drifted down, fell into the sea.

Then, Shunyo began to shoot all the Japanese military flags and battle flags hoisted on the ship, one at a time, and even broke them all. The broken flag fell into the water with the flag rope, floating like a dead fish, and Shunyo aimed at Sakata again, shattering the urn of Ishihara on his chest.

The Kuomintang soldiers shot at the Shunyo Water Tower together, and Shunyo pulled off a dozen grenades tied to his body, and died with the Water Tower. Sakata committed suicide by caesarean section because he did not bring Ishihara's ashes back to Japan. The next day, Li Huan handed over Shunyo's body to Chen Dalei.

Chen Dalei lifted off the blue sky and white sun banner covered by Shun Slip's body, and draped his New Fourth Army uniform on Shun Slip's body. All the soldiers of the Sixth Division assembled and buried Shun Yu.

He aimed at the flag of the enemy army and opened fire, but was spotted by the enemy and shot indiscriminately.

"My Brother's Name is Shun Yu" is a very classic anti-Japanese war film, and the most famous people in this drama are, Chen Dalei, Shun Yu (Chen Erlei), and the third battalion commander who speaks a dialect.

Chen Dalei is the commander of the Sixth Division, but he has very few men under him, and he often directly connects with battalion-level cadres. So in my opinion, Chen Dalei, the commander, should be equivalent to the level of the regiment commander when the system is complete.

I personally believe that the commander of Chen Dalei is like a regiment commander, mainly because of the following reasons:

1. Directly assigning work to the battalion commander According to common sense, as a commander of a military division, he will never directly connect with the battalion commander below. Because above the battalion commander, there are also regiment commanders, brigade commanders, division commanders, and army commanders.

Obviously, in "My Brother is Shunyu", Chen Dalei's military subdivision does not have such an establishment. Of course, a large part of the possibility lies in the fact that the strength of our army was weak at that time, and the structure in all aspects was not complete and complete.

In such a newly established base area, it is natural that there will be some "chaos" in management, which is still in line with the background of the times at that time.

Second, from the beginning to the end, my subordinates only saw battalion-level cadres In my TV series "Brother Called Shunyo", from the beginning to the end of the TV series, we can see the biggest official position, except for Chen Dalei, the commander, there are only three battalion commanders, battalion-level cadres.

This is also the cadre with the highest command under Chen Dalei in the play, and it is also the cadre with the most frequency in early summer. Therefore, according to the arrangement of the regiment and battalion, Chen Dalei should belong to the level of regiment commander, so that he can directly command the battalion commander.

Therefore, based on the above two aspects, Chen Dalei is called a commander in the TV series "My Brother is Shunyo"; But judging from the strength of his subordinates, it should belong to the ** of the regiment commander; The reason why he was called a commander was because the system was not yet complete at that time.

It is the title of commander of the military sub-district, but in fact only Chen Dalei was given one company of the main force, so although the shelf of the Sixth Military Region was very large at the beginning of its establishment, this also had the effect of bluffing, in fact, there was only one regiment number, one battalion number (three battalions) under its jurisdiction, and the real army actually had only one infantry company. However, since the Sixth Division dares to subordinate the number of regiment-level troops, the theoretical level is self-evident, and Chen Dalei cannot be underestimated because of the small number of troops at the beginning of his "entrepreneurship."

Chen Dalei's superior is the head of the division, and Chen Dalei's rank is a cadre at the level of brigade commander, which is equivalent to the position of regiment commander when Li Yunlong was established in the Eighth Route Army.

In the later period, the New Fourth Army established several divisions, all of which concurrently served as commanders of military regions. Each military region has several military divisions. A military division is equivalent to a brigade.

The problem is that Chen Dalei is a ragtag army. So there is only one regiment. In this regiment, except for the three battalions, the other two battalions are all in the state of pending construction. So it's not an abnormal state.

In fact, it's about the same as a regimental commander. Although he is called a commander, he has very few soldiers, and many of them have not been expanded.

That is, a regimental commander, at best, a regimental commander who strengthened the regiment.

Both the New Fourth Army and the Eighth Route Army were formed at the beginning of the Anti-Japanese War. However, in the early days of its formation, the New Fourth Army suffered heavy losses. At first, the Kuomintang did not want to recognize the southern guerrillas and stepped up encirclement and suppression.

On the one hand, the guerrillas were lured down the mountain and exterminated. In a short period of time, the southern partisans suffered great losses.

Generally speaking, the military districts of the New Fourth Army are concurrently served by divisions. In the sequence of the New Fourth Army at the end of the Anti-Japanese War, each military region was concurrently served by each division. However, in the sequence of the New Fourth Army, the military region has field units and various military subdivisions under its jurisdiction.

The field forces are composed of the main brigades, while the military subdivisions are mainly local armed forces.

Judging from the sequence of the New Fourth Army, among all the military subdivisions, only a very small number of military subdivisions have the establishment of a regiment, and most of them are the establishment of two or three regiment-level units. Therefore, there is no doubt that the head of a military sub-district should be treated at the brigade level.

However, although military divisions are treated at the brigade level, the number and quality of troops may not necessarily be able to meet the brigade level. This is because most of the armed forces under the jurisdiction of military sub-districts are local armed forces, and the task they undertake is to defend the localities and send qualified soldiers to the main forces, so they cannot be compared with the main forces in terms of equipment and combat effectiveness.

The construction of military sub-districts was established when the local armed forces developed to a certain extent. Only when the local government and local armed forces in the surrounding counties have developed to a certain extent will they be integrated into military subdivisions. Therefore, this unit has a certain strength base.

As exaggerated as Chen Dalei said, it is not in line with the facts that there is only one company. There are two reasons for this.

The first reason is that the script is written in this way to increase the drama, but such small details do not affect the plot.

But Chen Dalei is a regiment commander, and it is appropriate to give him a main company. Therefore, he used this main company as a basis to develop the field troops of the army division. However, before the reorganization of the troops, he told his superiors that he only had one company, which was nothing more than crying poor and asking for assistance.

In fact, everyone knows that your military division will not just order troops. But everyone didn't care, knowing that he was really difficult. This is the comedy of not wanting spoils after the war.

Therefore, Chen Dalei's military division level is brigade level. He had that main company as the backbone in this area, which soon grew to several thousand armed forces. But that company was his seed. This is the reason why he is so distressed about the death of those old squad leaders and veterans after he is tough with Matsui United.

In the TV series "My Brother is Shunyu", how old is the commander Chen Dalei?

Chen Dalei is temporarily in a position between the regiment commander and the brigade commander. The military subdivision assigned to him was the lowest military subdivision among the several levels of military districts of the New Fourth Army at that time, but it stands to reason that a regiment commander would not be sent to take charge. According to the logic of the TV series, because Chen Dalei should have made great contributions to the regiment commander, and his usual ability level was very satisfactory to the chief, he was transferred to Chen Dalei to be responsible for preparing for the establishment of a new military subdivision, and working, one is an exceptional promotion, and it is also a test of his ability, being in charge of a military subdivision is definitely more complicated than being in charge of a mature regiment, and Chen Dalei still only brought a main force company to start a business.

The story behind this, because it should be that Chen Dalei, the head of the regiment, has repeatedly made military exploits and should be promoted, and he can't hold it down, but one more brigade will come out of thin air to give you Chen Dalei to bring? So what to do? Yes, there are no troops and no equipment, let's give the establishment and policy!

A brigade-level military division in the planning, do you Chen Dalei dare to take it? There is only one company in the army, and there is no need for money and equipment, but we have a policy and an establishment!

The words are here, we think that your Chen Dalei ability level is good, there is a little bit of fancy intestines, yes, I will give you such a chance, the opportunity is given to you, whether you eat meat or drink soup, it all depends on your own ability, don't give you a chance Chen Dalei, it's our leader who is wrong, but the opportunity is given to you, you can't develop, but you can't seize the opportunity yourself, or continue to be the head of the regiment.

The TV series is probably such a story background, and this logic is not wrong, but in the TV, even the big brother of the first division that has been rubbed by Chen Dalei is also a regiment commander, which is a bit impossible, in history, the military division of the New Fourth Army is a brigade-level unit, of course, there will be newly established military divisions like Chen Dalei, or restrictions such as regional population, a small number of military divisions only need to be responsible for regiment-level units, but the commander of the first division in TV is the big brother, and he is also responsible for a major and mature military division, Then this big brother should definitely be the brigade commander, so that he will not be the same as Chen Dalei as the regiment commander.

Then Chen Dalei's Sixth Army Division, although the personnel were not given enough, the number was given, and if there was a thorn in it, it was to give him the number of the military division or a regiment, if this is temporary, it is understandable - You Chen Dalei will pull up this regiment first and then talk about the later words, but at the end of the TV, Chen Dalei has also pulled out a regiment, but the establishment did not say that he will give another number.

Don't dwell on the problem of TV screenwriters, Chen Dalei's official position is roughly like what was said earlier, his sixth division finally developed successfully according to the ordinary military division of the New Fourth Army, then Chen Dalei will participate in the later liberation war with the rank of brigade commander, normal development, after the founding of the country, the foundation is also a major general like Li Yunlong can't run, according to Chen Dalei is not like Li Yunlong always wants to make assassinations, then in the liberation war to lead the troops to complete various tasks normally, in the end it should be the founding lieutenant general of the country in five or five years, the iron triangle in the northwest of Shanxi met Chen Dalei, You have to salute and call the chief.

During the Anti-Japanese War, there were fourth-level military divisions at the brigade level and fifth-level military divisions at the regimental level. In the anti-Japanese base area of Shandong, most of the military divisions of the New Fourth Army were regiment-level military divisions. Chen Dalei's military division prototype is the New Fourth Army Shuidong Army Division, which was wiped out twice by the Japanese puppet army, and the third time the 129th Division and the Eighth Route Army went south to restore the Shuidong Army Division, which belonged to the New Fourth Army, and the military division and Shuidong Independent Regiment during the Anti-Japanese War, the strength was basically about 400 people, most of the time less.

The Shandong Military Region of the Eighth Route Army, there is a Lunan Military Region, Lunan set up the Nishan Military Subdivision near Qufu, and it was also destroyed by the puppet army many times, and the military subdivision could not hold back to Yimeng Mountain, and then returned to the plains to fight guerrilla restores the military subdivision.

Most of the newly formed military subdivisions of the Eighth Route Army and the New Fourth Army were led by the leaders of the military subdivisions to one place to open up new areas, and then merged with the local communist guerrillas and slowly gathered into a combat effective military subdivision unit. For example, when the first year of the southern expedition from Zhugou, the independent guerrilla brigade was composed of two squadrons of the Zhugou Garrison of the Eighth Regiment of the Fourth Detachment of the New Fourth Army and more than 60 Red Army cadres from Yan'an, a total of more than 160 people, only 1 heavy machine gun, 90 rifles and dozens of grenades. He led the Independent Brigade to the Henan-Anhui Soviet Border Area, joined up with Chen Shaomin's guerrillas, and formed the Henan-Anhui Soviet Guerrilla Column, which was then developed into the Fifth Division of the New Fourth Army.

In the Eastern Hebei Military Region, after the defeat of the Fourth Column of the Eighth Route Army of Song Shilun and Deng Hua in eastern Hebei, three companies were left on the way to break through, and each of the three companies was organized into a detachment to persist in fighting in eastern Hebei, and later these three detachments were combined into two regiments. When the Anti-Japanese War was won, it was expanded to more than 2,100 people in 3 regiments, and the first batch of Eighth Route Army advanced into the northeast under the leadership of Li Yunchang and Zeng Kelin.