Did Su 30 China get the right to its production? 10

There is no right to produce, it should be a production license, and we got a Russian production license at the cost of buying their two production lines.

Buy MiG The MiG company is very willing to sell the most advanced equipment to China.

On December 31, 1989, the first Su-27 anti-aircraft interceptor, the Su-27, took off from the airfield of the Irkutsk aircraft factory for its first test flight. Soon a second one was produced. Test flights of this modification were so successful that the Sukhoi Aircraft Complex decided to mass-produce this two-seater Su-27ily aircraft.

However, in order to distinguish it from the single-seater Su-27, this two-seater Su-27ily aircraft is called the Su-30.

Su-30MK Su-30MK Su-30MKI China can only produce Su-27 codenames; The J-11 Su-30 can only be imported and cannot be produced.

The J-11 is produced in Shenfei.

Air Force SU27SK 36 units.

Su27UBK 40 racks.

SU30MKK 76 aircraft.

Naval aviation.

SU30MK2 24 racks.

Together with the 72 J11 (domestically produced SU27) produced by Shenfei estimated in the West, a total of 246 SU series fighters.

The SU30MK is capable of in-flight refueling and retains the air combat capabilities of the Su30 air superiority fighter, with a range of up to 3,000 km (SU27S4,000 km) with internal fuel and up to 5,200 km after a single in-flight refueling. Maximum take-off weight 34000 kg (SU27S33000 kg). The new radar can attack two targets at the same time during air combat, and the search range is more than 100 kilometers.

Some of its performance is equivalent to the US F15E. In addition to retaining the air combat capabilities necessary for the basic Su27S, KH25D L laser-guided air-to-surface missiles, KH59M TV-guided bombs or KAB500KR laser-guided bombs, and KH31P anti-radar missiles can be used. It has a very powerful ground (sea) attack capability.

Air combat** can also use Russia's most advanced R77 active radar homing missile. The maximum bomb load is six tons.

SU30MKK is Chinese. The Russian SU30 family faces different countries. The code name is also different.

India's is the SU30MKI

China's is SU30MKK

Thailand's SU30MKL

The last letters of the English alphabet represent different countries. China has only su3mkk

The J-11B and J-11BS are the most advanced combat aircraft currently owned by the Chinese Air Force, and they are by no means "simple imitations" as some people call them. Compared with the domestic FBC-1A "Flying Leopard", the J-11B and J-11BS have a number of advantages. Although the "Flying Leopard" also has a large range and bomb load, its avionics system is also very advanced.

But as a fighter-bomber, its air combat capabilities were relatively limited. Moreover, due to the limitations of aerodynamic layout and engine thrust, the air combat self-defense capability is insufficient when a large number of ground and sea attacks are mounted, and escort forces must be arranged. The J-11B and J-11BS inherit the excellent maneuverability of the "Flanker" series, coupled with advanced avionics systems and airborne **, with powerful air combat capabilities.

It is extremely suitable for completing the ability of long-range and large-depth precision strikes without escort. In this regard, the J-11 series is much stronger than the "Flying Leopard" and the single-seat light J-10. There is currently no known domestic fighter that can replace the J-11B series.

Details: In addition, the Su-30 mentioned upstairs focuses on ground-to-sea operations, and air combat is much inferior to that of the J-11.

The Su-27 and the J-11 are the same on the surface, but in fact, the electronic equipment inside is all different, the Su-27 uses old Russian equipment, and China uses the latest technology, you can see the comparison between the cockpit of the J-11 and the Su-27.

The strongest in service should be the J-10, because this is made in China, all the technology has been mastered, and the combat readiness guarantee is also the best.

It should be the Su-30 that is the strongest. However, China's J-11 is more advanced than the Su-27, and it was developed on the basis of China's technology that has thoroughly understood the Su-27.

J-10 Ah, the domestic old awesome, the J-20 officer is invincible all over the world, haha.

India's Su-30MKI is a multi-purpose heavy fighter that focuses on air supremacy, using a three-wing surface design and thrust vector nozzle, with excellent dynamic performance, and equipped with a "Snow Leopard" passive phased array radar, equipped with R-77 and other "launch and forget" medium-range air-to-air missiles, air combat performance surpasses the American F-15C fighter, and is also one of the most advanced heavy fighters in Asia.

China's Su-30MKK is a heavy fighter-bomber that focuses on ground attack, and compared with India's Su-30MKI, the design is much more conservative, neither using a vector nozzle nor a three-wing design, but the bomb load has reached 12 tons, exceeding the 8 tons of the Su-34 and Su-30MKI, and can launch all Russian-made air-to-surface missiles and guided bombs.

China's purchase of the Su-30MKK is not to obtain a new air supremacy fighter, but to use the Su-30MKK equipment to have a long-range deep air-to-ground strike capability for the first time.

The Su-30MKK does not pursue air combat performance, which is also due to the construction idea of the Chinese Air Force: India wants to have a high-performance multi-role fighter, while China is a combination of the J-11 that focuses on air supremacy and the Su-30MKK that focuses on ground and sea attacks, that is, two relatively "professional" fighters to cooperate in combat, rather than India is equipped with an "all-round fighter" idea.

Differences in appearance:

Indian Su-30MKI with canard wings; Install a vector engine.

Chinese Su-30MKK, without canard wings; The engine is not vectored. Whether the canard wings are good or not has been controversial internationally. (The United States is explicitly against it.) And the latest Su-35 also removed the canard wings.

It is true that the Indian Su-30MKI is more advanced, but it is quite unreliable.

On the basis of the Su-27, the Su-30MKK has enlarged the fuselage, increased the fuel carrying capacity, and increased the range from 4,500 km to 5,000 km. The ground attack function has been increased, the bomb load has been increased from 7 tons to 8 tons, and it can launch a variety of advanced Russian ground precision strike munitions. The radar has a maximum detection range of 100 kilometers and can launch Russia's advanced R73 short-range and R77 medium-range air-to-air missiles to carry out over-the-horizon attacks.

At the same time, it can also realize the sharing of information and data links, and command multiple Su-27s to cooperate in operations. Although the take-off weight has increased from 31 tons to 34 tons of the Su-27, and the thrust-to-weight ratio has decreased, the advanced technology of the Su-35 has been adopted in the fuselage and aerodynamics, and the maneuverability is not much inferior to that of the Su-27. Because most of the Su-30MKK uses ready-made technology, the development cost is small, each aircraft is expected to be 35 million US dollars, and the later sales are only 30 million US dollars per aircraft, which is 10 million US dollars more than the first batch of Su-27 and self-assembled J-11, and only 5 million US dollars more than the later batch of Su-27 with improved avionics, seat silo and radar.

Su-30MKI, using an improved and upgraded vector nozzle engine of the AL-31F, has a maximum thrust of 137 kN per unit. Phased array radar is used, and the maximum detection range is 150 km. The range, bomb load, ammunition and other functions are the same as those of the Su-30MKK.

Because the thrust of the engine is much larger than that of the Su-30MKK, and with a vector nozzle, the thrust is increased by more than 20% compared with the basic engine when the fighter is climbing, sharp turning and other difficult actions, so the thrust-to-weight ratio is much higher than that of the Su-30MKK, and its flight performance and maneuverability are much better than the Su-30MKK, plus the radar detection range is 50 kilometers longer than that of the Su-30MKK, which has the advantage of being the first to detect and strike first, making it a multiplier of combat power. Therefore, authoritative military experts at home and abroad agree that one Su-30MKI is equivalent to the air combat capability of two Su-30MKK or J-11. Since the Su-30MKI was developed by India in cooperation with Russia, India and Russia have formulated a gentlemen's agreement, requiring that the Su-30MKI be purchased by India alone, and Russia must not export it. In addition, because the Indian Air Force has a limited number of equipment, only 140 aircraft, resulting in low sales of fighters, high development costs and costs, each of which reaches 50 million US dollars after apportionment.

It is not correct to say that the vector nozzle engine and radar technology of the Su-30MKI production type are immature, and the vector nozzle engine with greater thrust and better performance and the phased array radar with a longer detection range are developed on the basis of the Su-30MKI engine and radar technology, and the technology has matured, and there is no problem of immaturity of the Su-30MKI engine and radar technology.

The Indian Su-30 has canard wings and a vertical tail bevel, while the Chinese Su-30 has no canard wings and a vertical tail at a right angle.

India's performance is indeed stronger than China's, it is a phased array, China is an ordinary Doppler, and India's Su-30 engine is a vector nozzle, which can be an air ballet, and China is ordinary.

What China bought is more simplified, India wants to be complicated, ** is also high, China buys back equipment, but also for its own copycat, India will not copycat, so it is better to want, China is not so concerned about whether it is good or not, it is reasonable to say, basic, because they are copycats, they are promoted. Now the Chinese cottage to the Su-27UBK is the J-11BS, and the Su-30 of the Chinese cottage is rumored to be called the J-16No** also.

MKI is the Indian type of aircraft, I is the abbreviation of India, in fact, it is all changed according to the SU27, the engine is changed, the mechanical radar is changed, and the missile is changed, which is a large frame, equipped with a small functional module, of course, the frame can also be changed, but it has to comply with the aerodynamic layout or something.

The main differences between India's Su-30MKI and China's Su-30MKK are as follows: Su-30MKI has canard wings, Su-30MKK does not; The Su-30MKI is equipped with an engine with vector technology, and the Chinese Su-30MKK is a conventional engine; The Su-30MKI is equipped with the "Snow Leopard" phased array radar with a detection range of 200 kilometers, and China's Su-30MKK is equipped with the N001VE "Beetle" Doppler radar with a detection range of 120 kilometers.

Russian products of the 90s, what is worth bragging about, shameless,

The first is J-11 (Su-27) The second is Su-30, Su-27 is smooth as a whole, and the Su-30 cabin position is very convex, as can be seen from the straight line in the figure, the Su-27 fuselage is flat, only the glass cover is convex, so the highest point is the highest point of the glass compartment, and the Su-30 is convex from the nose part, so it can be seen that the highest point of the Su-30 is not in the glass cabin. The cabin is downwards because the Su-30 is more focused on ground attack, providing a better view for the pilot and increasing the bomb load.

The Su-27 is the first member of the Flanker family developed by Sukhoi, and the follow-up models include the Su30, Su33, Su34, Su35, and Su37, all of which are upgraded and improved versions of the Su27. China currently has both 27 and 30. Both of these fighters are heavy fighters, and the difference is that they are upgraded versions of the 30 to 27.

The Su-27 is an air superiority fighter, mainly used for homeland air defense operations, and has poor ground strike capabilities. The Su-30 is a fighter-bomber developed based on the Su-27, which emphasizes ground strike capabilities while taking into account air combat performance, and has increased load and range. Both kinds of China are available.

The Su30 is an upgraded version of the Su27 Both models are available in China and both have domestic improved models, and the domestic code name is J-11

The Su-30 is an upgraded version of the Su-27 in China, the Su-30 is the Su-30MKK in China, and the Su-27 is the J-11

Of course, it is an imported SU27 production line and assembled using its own parts and parts of Maozi.

A modification on the basis of the S-27, but not a gram machine for the Su-27.

is based on the Su-27SK (export single-seat Su-27), but there are some improvements, which differ in different batches.

In addition, the J-11 does not use domestic engines, but two Saturn Lyulka AL-31F turbofan engines, the WS-10 engine is planned to be used in the J-10 (the current J-10 also uses the AL-31F), and there are also rumors that the J-11B tests the WS-10A engine. But the Su-27SK and J-11 currently equipped, including the J-11B, are not equipped with domestic WS-10 engines.

It's not an imitation, China has its own intellectual property rights, China's J-11 has six independent intellectual property rights, and some important components are developed domestically, but the J-11 has a lot of use of the Su-27 design concept, so the shape is very similar. In particular, the engine is a Chinese Taihang engine, which is the WS-10