Is Oda Nobunaga s military prowess comparable to Takeda Shingen?

Updated on history 2024-02-26
15 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-06

    Takeda Shingen was stronger in military talent, but he was obviously short in terms of economy and strategy, and his long war with Uesugi and his rivalry with Tokugawa were very short-sighted, and the rapid decline of his family business after his death had little to do with Takeda Katsuyori.

    In terms of the Sengoku states, Oda Nobunaga was at the first-class level militarily and strategically, and super-first-class economically speaking. In terms of wrist and ability, it is better than the military madman Takeda Shingen.

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-05

    I think so. Because Takeda Shingen is also experienced in a hundred battles, and he is very powerful in leading troops to fight.

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-04

    Yes, because Takeda Shingen is really terrifying, he is Oda Nobunaga's most terrifying opponent, and in his old age, Takeda Shingen has never lost.

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-03

    When Shingen was here, the Takeda family was very united, and it was not certain whether they could defeat Nobunaga, but Nobunaga would definitely not be able to destroy Takeda! The embankment of a thousand miles collapsed in the anthill, and the destruction of Takeda began within itself!

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-02

    Unless Oda can be slaughtered on the spot, it will be relatively easy to make a comeback with the economic power of the Oda domain, and Takeda cannot stand the toss.

  6. Anonymous users2024-02-01

    As long as the Shingen's army entered Owari, Asai Asakura would definitely send troops, and at this time Tokugawa had been crippled, and under the attack from both sides, Nobunaga could only trap Mino.

  7. Anonymous users2024-01-31

    One has strong ability, one thinks ahead, the battlefield soldier against the general, Oda Nobunaga is not estimated to be an opponent, engaged in internal affairs and external management has greatly improved the overall strength of the country, Oda Nobunaga is stronger (he has the bug of a monkey), the Takeda family is trapped in the environment, and the chance of success in a war is very small.

  8. Anonymous users2024-01-30

    I think it's okay, he's still very strong, he should have a chance.

  9. Anonymous users2024-01-29

    Takeda Shingen's biggest and only weakness is that his lifespan is too short.

  10. Anonymous users2024-01-28

    So how did Kim, who crushed Mongolia in an all-round way with economy and technology, die?

  11. Anonymous users2024-01-27

    Very simply, there are two kinds of armies in the Warring States, one is the peasant soldiers, which is commonly known as the strong men. One is the warriors, the so-called samurai. Before Nobunaga, the nations used agricultural soldiers to fight wars, and although they were strong, they had no combat power, and they were more affected by factors such as agricultural time.

    When Nobunaga had just succeeded as the governor of the family, the Kanto governor Uesugi Kenmasa, the head of the Ogiya Uesugi family, Uesugi Asada, the Furukawa prince Ashikaga Haruhiti, and Imagawa Yoshimoto of Suruga, combined 80,000 troops (apparently a peasant army) to attack Hojo Shiyasu and besiege Kawagoe Castle garrisoned by Hojo Tsusunari, Tsusunari with 3,000 elite soldiers, and Hojo Shiyasu flanked back and forth, defeating the Kwantung coalition army. Although the result of this battle also had factors such as Hojo Shiyasu's strategy and strategy, it also reflected the low combat effectiveness of the peasants and soldiers. The several battles of Oda Nobuhide participated in were entangled peasant soldiers, so although there were tens of thousands of people, against the Imagawa army of several thousand people, there were more defeats and fewer victories.

    After Oda Nobunaga unified Owari, he implemented a policy of separating soldiers and peasants in the prefecture, which effectively separated soldiers from peasants, and since then the major daimyo have carried out this reform. Of course, when Imagawa Yoshimoto went to Luo, the 20,000 army was a real elite, and at that time, Takeda, Uesugi, and Hojo together may not be able to mobilize so many people (although the territory is large, but they are all newly occupied areas, not only can not provide troops, but also need to be garrisoned, and Imagawa's Junyuan Sansan Sanguo has been governed for many years and has rich national strength). Oda Nobunaga's situation is similar, Saito is to be guarded against in the north, Oda Nobuyasu, the lord of Inuyama Castle, his brother Oda Nobuhiro, and Nagashima Honganji in the west, while a large number of troops defending in the east have been wiped out by the Imagawa army, and there are not many troops that can be mobilized.

    In addition, the time of Imagawa's large-scale invasion was in May, which was the busy agricultural season, and it was definitely impossible to recruit peasant soldiers, so it was normal to only be able to gather more than 1,000 samurai.

  12. Anonymous users2024-01-26

    10,000 stone can recruit 250 soldiers.

    200,000 stone recruits 4000+ is just right.

    Besides, Nobunaga has just unified Owari and the national power has not yet come up.

  13. Anonymous users2024-01-25

    The more than 10,000 refers to the total number of people on both sides.

  14. Anonymous users2024-01-24

    One stone is theoretically the food that an adult man eats for a year, and then calculates it himself.

  15. Anonymous users2024-01-23

    After putting an end to the troubles in Sagami, in October of the third year of Motogame (1572), at the request of Ashikaga Yoshiaki, a general who was hostile to Oda Nobunaga, Shingen led more than 30,000 troops to Beijing. When Tokugawa Ieyasu, who won by a landslide and nearly eliminated Nobunaga's ally, was about to face off with Nobunaga, Shingen suddenly fell ill (legend has it that he suffered a cerebral hemorrhage) (one said to be seriously injured) and had to suspend his plan to go to Beijing. The following year, in the first year of Tensho (1573), the fifty-two-year-old Takeda Shingen died in Komaba in Shinano.

    According to Shin Xuan's last words, there will be no mourning for three years, and Shin Xuan's brother Shin Lian will serve as the shadow warrior. In the fourth year of Tianzheng, Shingen's body was officially buried in Huilin Temple. It is said that upon learning of Shingen's death, Uesugi Kenshin was also saddened and decided not to fight Kai again.

    Personally, I think that after the death of Takeda Shingen, Takeda Katsuyori did not have considerable strength to control the entire army, and the commander was dead, and the army's heart was turbulent. It is difficult to defeat the Tokugawa without having the military superiority and the will to take down the enemy in one fell swoop. Coupled with the fact that there are too many hostile forces, the Takeda family relies on Takeda Shingen's intelligence and strategy to survive in the cracks, and his death is a heavy blow to the Takeda family.

    And he still needs to fight for the rights of Shin Xuan after his death, so he can only go outside and settle inside.

    Personal opinion, just for buddy you to laugh at, mistakes, please understand.

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