When Zhuge Liang and Zhao Yun were both opposed, why did Liu Bei insist on cutting Wu?

Updated on history 2024-03-07
16 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-06

    In order to avenge Guan Yu and Zhang Fei. Liu Bei's two right-hand men lost were inseparable from Eastern Wu, and he took all the blame on Eastern Wu.

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-05

    I think it's mainly because Wu broke their alliance treaty and killed Guan Yu, which made Liu Bei feel grief-stricken, and Guan Yu was Liu Bei's brother, and he was probably vengeful.

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-04

    In order to take revenge, Liu Bei was already carried away by anger at that time, he wanted to avenge Guan Yu and couldn't listen to the advice of others.

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-03

    <> "If it was Zhuge Liang who killed Wu instead of Liu Bei, what would the result be?"

    Shu Han's crusade against Wu has always been a matter of discussion among many people, after all, the Battle of Yiling is the last of the three major wars in the Three Kingdoms period, and it is very important in the history of the Three Kingdoms period, especially after Liu Bei died of illness, and Shu and Wu once again formed an alliance against Wei, and the three-legged situation was maintained. However, if the person who led the troops in Shu was not Liu Bei, but Zhuge Liang, then what would be the outcome of this battle?

    First of all, let's talk about the result, if Zhuge Liang defeats Wu, then the result may not be the victory of Shu, why do you say that? The reason why Liu Bei attacked Wu was to accompany Guan Yu to take revenge, Guan Yu died at the hands of Wu Guo, which has always made Liu Bei angry, he finally sent troops to Eastern Wu, in order to avenge Guan Yu, but he didn't expect Zhang Fei to die before the march, ** and fled to Wu State, Liu Bei once again put this account on Sun Quan's head, and his heart was naturally anxious, wanting to fight quickly.

    But Zhuge Liang is not like this, the relationship between him and Guan Yu and Zhang Fei is not deep, if Zhuge Liang leads the troops, he may not have the will to crusade at all, even if he is forced to lead the troops and has to fight, Zhuge Liang will not be as anxious as Liu Bei, and withdraw the army to the forest to escape the summer, giving the other party the opportunity to set fire. If Zhuge Liang wants to set up camp, he will definitely be thoughtful, choose a good place, and not give Dongwu any chance, and he will also take precautions to prevent problems before they happen.

    Also, although Zhuge Liang knew that he was deified by "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" in later generations, he was actually not as powerful as **, but the real Zhuge Liang would not be much worse, Lu Xun would of course be more concerned and more jealous in the face of such an opponent. However, these are all based on Zhuge Liang's determination to defeat Wu, but in fact Zhuge Liang is not a supporter of Wu, on the contrary, he has always disapproved of sending troops to Wu, he knows that this is not beneficial to Shu.

    The same is true in history, after Liu Bei's defeat, Zhuge Liang is still trying his best to reconcile with Wu, Shu and Wu are like one person's feet, losing either of them will cause great difficulties for people to walk, Wei is strong, it is difficult for them to fight alone, and there will be greater possibilities when they unite together. Therefore, if it is replaced by Zhuge Liang, Shu may not win, and even if it wins, it will definitely reconcile with Wu.

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-02

    The biggest possibility is that when Shu Han is victorious and Sun Quan sends envoys to sue for peace, he will negotiate with Sun Wu to restore the original Jingzhou part of Shu Han and give up. This is the subordination of war to politics, and the maximization of interests is achieved through war and conspiracy. However, if Liu Bei didn't listen to Zhuge Liang's advice, maybe it would still be inevitable that the end of Yiling's defeat would still be inevitable.

    What can be <> certain is that in the era of the late Han Dynasty, Lu Bu's force value was unique, standing at the peak and looking down on the world. dominates the military rankings of the Three Kingdoms, and other fierce generals have a realm gap with him. The second is Zhao Yun.

    Zhao Yun is also one of the five tiger generals, and he has not tasted defeat in the romance. In the Battle of Qishan, Zhao Yun fought Xu Chu, Li Dian, and Yu Ban alone, blocking them so that Liu Bei could escape safely. Therefore, Zhao Yun's martial arts are also above Xu Chu, and he can fight Lily with Lu Bu.

    For the Shu Han regime, there were two important defense points and sortie points, one was Jingzhou and the other was Hanzhong. Jingzhou mainly guarded against Sun Wu, while Hanzhong mainly guarded against Cao Wei. Since it is the attack on Wu, it is inevitable that the rear of the whole country will be empty, and it is necessary to guard against the sneak attack of Cao Wei, or the Wu-Wei alliance will advance from east to west, so Hanzhong is the top priority, although it is not directly related to the war of Wu, but it is related to the stability of the entire Shu Han regime.

    Zhuge Liang was listed as one of the ten philosophers of Wumiao in the Tang and Song dynasties, and his status was on a par with Han Xin and Bai Qi. Zhuge Liang's level of use of troops can be affirmed by later generations, mainly because Zhuge Liang uses troops in an orderly manner and rarely makes major mistakes. Li Jing and Li Shimin of the Tang Dynasty admired Zhuge Liang's method of using troops, and they believed that the literati who criticized Zhuge Liang for not knowing how to use troops did not understand military affairs and did not know Zhuge Liang's cleverness.

    Liu Bei has been blinded by hatred, lost his mind, and is eager to win, he went east to the Three Gorges to reach Yaoting, and attacked all the way. If Zhuge Liang is here, he may be more calm and calm, he will not be in a hurry, and he will do a good job of strategy and tactics step by step.

    I don't believe that Liu Bei is just for personal vendetta, but he concealed the reasons that could inspire the whole people, exaggerated the reasons for each of them, and turned a national war into a farce of fame and reputation. And only Zhao Yun stopped Liu Bei, Zhuge Liang was dumb when he should have spoken. In this failure, Zhuge Liang was at least responsible for dereliction of duty.

  6. Anonymous users2024-02-01

    I can win. Because Zhuge Liang is a very scheming person, he will definitely find out all the bottom lines of the other party before making a plan, and he will not act recklessly.

  7. Anonymous users2024-01-31

    No, Shu is the weakest military among the three kingdoms, and although there are famous generals, middle-level commanders are faulty.

  8. Anonymous users2024-01-30

    The chances are greater, after all, Zhuge Liang can look at the overall situation and be a little more sure of the situation.

  9. Anonymous users2024-01-29

    No, because the overall strength of Eastern Wu is stronger than that of Shu Han, and Shu Han cannot defeat Eastern Wu.

  10. Anonymous users2024-01-28

    Yes, because Zhuge Liang is resourceful, and no one is his opponent in Eastern Wu at all, so he will definitely succeed in defeating Wu.

  11. Anonymous users2024-01-27

    At that time, it was also something that Zhuge Liang didn't expect, and Zhuge Liang also had ambitions! Also want to have a dream, the desire to unify the country! The first time to cut Wu, but the Shu Kingdom at that time still had the foundation to cut Wu!

    So Liu Bei also understands Zhuge Liang very well! The second time he attacked Wu, at that time, the soldiers of Shu were also strong and strong, and Zhuge Liang also hoped to destroy Wu's wish! The country is further unified!

    Who knew that Liu Bei didn't bring Zhuge Liang! I don't understand the military! Defeat as a result!

    It's a big deal! Three Kingdoms! The main thing is that when a person is strong, the stronger the desire.

  12. Anonymous users2024-01-26

    The answer is obvious, Zhuge Liang definitely does not approve of using troops against Wu. Liu Bei was called the queen, on a par with Cao Cao. In the situation of the Three Kingdoms of Wei, Shu and Wu, Eastern Wu also needed to weigh the pros and cons and decide who to help.

    And Jingzhou is under Liu Bei, how can Dongwu gain a foothold without Jingzhou? After weighing it, Soochow chose to side with Cao Cao. So they raided Jingzhou, and Jingzhou was lost.

    At this time, if you capture Jingzhou stubbornly, you will face the alliance between Wu Dong and Cao Wei, and your chances of winning will be slim.

  13. Anonymous users2024-01-25

    It is estimated that because he knows that he can't persuade Liu Bei to defeat Wu's determination, he can only let him go.

  14. Anonymous users2024-01-24

    It's not that Zhuge Liang didn't persuade Liu Bei, but he couldn't persuade him at all. In order to avenge Guan Yu and Zhang Fei, Liu Bei hated Eastern Wu to the bone and insisted on killing Wu.

  15. Anonymous users2024-01-23

    Because he knew that he couldn't persuade Liu Bei, Zhao Yun, who was more trusted than himself, tried to persuade him to no avail, and it was in vain to persuade him.

  16. Anonymous users2024-01-22

    Because Liu Bei insisted on conquering Eastern Wu at that time, Zhuge Liang couldn't persuade him at all.

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