Who is more military talented, Oda Nobunaga or Takeda Shingen?

It must be Takeda Shingen Countless tough battles in his life There are five times with Uesugi Kawanakajima and Mikahara Including the battle with Hojo All achieved good results against strong enemies There is also the strongest force in the Warring States - Akabei and the sixteen-character mantra of the wind forest volcano Oda Nobunaga and Takeda Shingen Compared with Takeda Shingen, the military talent may be a little worse But Nobunaga is more of a strategist When Shingen was still fighting with Uesugi Nobunaga had already begun to seek the world.

In fact, both Shingen and Nobunaga realized the power of iron cannons, and they were both daimyo who began to use them on a large scale earlier, but Shingen's geographical location was not as good as Nobunaga's, and he couldn't get so many iron cannons, otherwise, Shingen would have used iron cannons on a large scale.

In addition, after Shingen Shangluo started, Nobunaga had no choice but to sit back and wait (although there was also an element of encirclement), but from this point it is not difficult to see that Shingen is still slightly more skilled in military affairs.

Personally, I think it's Oda Nobunaga.

This is especially true for the use of emerging firearms.

Takeda Shingen was stronger in military talent, but he was obviously short in terms of economy and strategy, and his long war with Uesugi and his rivalry with Tokugawa were very short-sighted, and the rapid decline of his family business after his death had little to do with Takeda Katsuyori.

In terms of the Sengoku states, Oda Nobunaga was at the first-class level militarily and strategically, and super-first-class economically speaking. In terms of wrist and ability, it is better than the military madman Takeda Shingen.

I think so. Because Takeda Shingen is also experienced in a hundred battles, and he is very powerful in leading troops to fight.

Yes, because Takeda Shingen is really terrifying, he is Oda Nobunaga's most terrifying opponent, and in his old age, Takeda Shingen has never lost.

When Shingen was here, the Takeda family was very united, and it was not certain whether they could defeat Nobunaga, but Nobunaga would definitely not be able to destroy Takeda! The embankment of a thousand miles collapsed in the anthill, and the destruction of Takeda began within itself!

Unless Oda can be slaughtered on the spot, it will be relatively easy to make a comeback with the economic power of the Oda domain, and Takeda cannot stand the toss.

As long as the Shingen's army entered Owari, Asai Asakura would definitely send troops, and at this time Tokugawa had been crippled, and under the attack from both sides, Nobunaga could only trap Mino.

One has strong ability, one thinks ahead, the battlefield soldier against the general, Oda Nobunaga is not estimated to be an opponent, engaged in internal affairs and external management has greatly improved the overall strength of the country, Oda Nobunaga is stronger (he has the bug of a monkey), the Takeda family is trapped in the environment, and the chance of success in a war is very small.

I think it's okay, he's still very strong, he should have a chance.

Takeda Shingen's biggest and only weakness is that his lifespan is too short.

So how did Kim, who crushed Mongolia in an all-round way with economy and technology, die?

After putting an end to the troubles in Sagami, in October of the third year of Motogame (1572), at the request of Ashikaga Yoshiaki, a general who was hostile to Oda Nobunaga, Shingen led more than 30,000 troops to Beijing. When Tokugawa Ieyasu, who won by a landslide and nearly eliminated Nobunaga's ally, was about to face off with Nobunaga, Shingen suddenly fell ill (legend has it that he suffered a cerebral hemorrhage) (one said to be seriously injured) and had to suspend his plan to go to Beijing. The following year, in the first year of Tensho (1573), the fifty-two-year-old Takeda Shingen died in Komaba in Shinano.

According to Shin Xuan's last words, there will be no mourning for three years, and Shin Xuan's brother Shin Lian will serve as the shadow warrior. In the fourth year of Tianzheng, Shingen's body was officially buried in Huilin Temple. It is said that upon learning of Shingen's death, Uesugi Kenshin was also saddened and decided not to fight Kai again.

Personally, I think that after the death of Takeda Shingen, Takeda Katsuyori did not have considerable strength to control the entire army, and the commander was dead, and the army's heart was turbulent. It is difficult to defeat the Tokugawa without having the military superiority and the will to take down the enemy in one fell swoop. Coupled with the fact that there are too many hostile forces, the Takeda family relies on Takeda Shingen's intelligence and strategy to survive in the cracks, and his death is a heavy blow to the Takeda family.

And he still needs to fight for the rights of Shin Xuan after his death, so he can only go outside and settle inside.

Personal opinion, just for buddy you to laugh at, mistakes, please understand.

He was begged to death while drinking tea