Why was the Hunan army of the Qing Dynasty so powerful when it fought the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom,

The Hunan army of the Qing Dynasty was the domestic army of the Qing Dynasty, and the army of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom was also the armed forces of the country. The main ** is still based on the contradiction of big swords and spears, so the Hunan army of the Qing Dynasty has an advantage in fighting the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom, but there is no ** advantage against the Eight-Nation Alliance, and even the disadvantage is very obvious, plus when fighting the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom, because of the internal chaos of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom, they will be defeated very well.

First of all, from the first aspect, the Qing Dynasty's Hunan army and the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom both belonged to the Qing Dynasty's domestic army, but the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom was a rebel army, and the Qing Dynasty's Hunan army was an official army. Therefore, the best equipment between the two of them is roughly similar, and the source of the Qing Dynasty's Hunan army mainly comes from the Hunan soldiers who have been trained for many years, while the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom is mostly a peasant-based army, with a weak sense of battle and poor combat awareness, so when the Qing Dynasty Hunan Army fought the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom, it was very advantageous and the Eight-Nation Alliance was a foreign army, and the foreign weapons at that time were far superior to those of the Qing Dynasty, so the Qing Dynasty Hunan Army could not stop the Eight-Nation Alliance.

Second, we can see from the situation of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom at that time, when the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom was in the midst of internal and external troubles, it can be said that the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom was very chaotic internally, and the phenomenon of internal power struggle was very serious. The Hunan army of the Qing Dynasty seized the opportunity of the internal turmoil of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom and destroyed the troops of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom in one fell swoop. And when facing the Eight-Nation Alliance, the Qing Dynasty did not only have such a force as the Hunan Army, but had many local troops, so when the Eight-Nation Alliance invaded, the Hunan Army and other armies also fell into internal strife, so they could not stop the attack of the Eight-Nation Alliance.

In general, the Hunan army of the Qing Dynasty occupied the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom at the right time, place, and people, but in the face of the Eight-Nation Alliance, it could not resist because of the difference between fire and equipment.

Third, we can see that most of the equipment of the Hunan army in the Qing Dynasty was provided by the Eight-Nation Alliance, and when facing the Eight-Nation Alliance, the equipment was relatively backward. Because the weapons of the Eight-Nation Coalition are modern, and most of the weapons used by the Hunan Army in the Qing Dynasty are cold weapons, spears, knives, etc., so in the face of the attack of the Eight-Nation Alliance, the Hunan Army can be said to be basically powerless to resist, and there is no way to resist, because the difference in strength between the two sides is too great. In general, the Hunan army of the Qing Dynasty fought the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom at the right time, in the right place, but in the face of the Eight-Nation Alliance, it could not resist because of the difference in equipment.

In general, the Hunan army of the Qing Dynasty fought the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom at the right time, in the right place, but in the face of the Eight-Nation Alliance, it could not resist because of the difference in equipment.

The main force of the Qing army to fight the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom was the Han army such as Zeng Guofan, and the Eight-Nation Coalition Army came from the north.

Because the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom was still born out of the Qing Dynasty, its military strength was as backward as the Qing Dynasty. Western countries have long begun to use hot **, with strong military power and well-trained. The Taiping Heavenly Kingdom was in chaos again, so it was quickly cleaned up.

Moreover, the Qing army was facing the Eight-Nation Coalition Army at that time, and of course the Qing army could not clean it up.

It was not the French army that was defeated at Zhennan Pass, it was all the Hunan army.

The Eight-Nation Alliance, the Hunan Army has been disbanded for decades, and they haven't studied, so they are messing around.

Looks like you're a sopholist. Fighting a war is not only about **, but also about the quality of a soldier. It's like the War of Liberation and the War to Resist US Aggression and Aid Korea, if the two wars were compared, there would be no New China and no North Korea, right?

Europe and the United States are serious modern armies with unified political orders.

1. Strict military law, scientific training, adequate supplies, and strong physique. Therefore, the army of the first person pleases the army of Europe and the United States. In all fairness, the Qing army could not defeat the Taiping army in the early days of the Taiping Rebellion, because the Eight Banners of the Qing Dynasty were all double-armed generals - a foreign gun in one hand and a smoking gun in the other.

Otherwise, the Taiping army would not have captured Nanjing and then occupied half of the country, right? The Taiping army was defeated by Zeng Guofan's Hunan army and Li Hongzhang's Huai army, both of which already had the rudiments of a modern army. In addition, after Hong Xiuquan captured Nanjing, he became corrupt and degenerate, divided men and women, forcibly expropriated and extorted, and had serious internal friction.

At this time, the Taiping Army was no longer the Taiping Army that had just revolted back then, and gradually became an army like the Eight Banners. Therefore, when they met the modern Hunan army and the Huai army, of course, they could not be defeated.

The Taiping Heavenly Kingdom was divided and defeated because of civil strife. The foreigner army was mainly stronger than the Qing army in naval warfare, and then the army's combat methods and ** lagged behind the foreigners, so it failed. Practice has proved that there is no inevitable connection between not being advanced and winning or not winning.

Like the Iraq War and the Korean War. One is that the will to fight is too poor, and the battle will be completely defeated. One is that the will to fight is super strong, and in the end China withstood it.

The foreigners are advanced, do you think that China's lead in the history of the First Sino-Japanese War is wrong with Japan, at that time, Japan's fleet was completely superior to China, and it was better than China in all aspects, and the Qing Dynasty was afraid of foreigners so they didn't dare to really fight, and the Taiping Rebellion was just a peasant uprising, although it was a bubble after all, the Qing Dynasty still had the support of foreigners at that time.

The Taiping Heavenly Kingdom was also suppressed under the alliance of foreign countries, otherwise a corrupt Qing Dynasty would have overpowered the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom that was flourishing at that time? We Chinese can't stand the imperialist guns

Because the Qing ** was more afraid of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom overthrowing them.

Fundamentally, it is a matter of leadership, and if we are not prepared to sacrifice to foreign invaders, we will fight passively in our hearts, and we will lose on the battlefield. But when confronting the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom, the Qing ** held the belief of victory and attacked the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom with the help of foreigners. Moreover, in the later period of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom, the internal unity was not very large, and the forces were scattered.

Attitude is everything!

Fighting the Eight-Nation Alliance was the Mongol horse team of Seng Lingqin.

The Ping Taiping Army was the Hunan army of Zeng Guofan.

Although both armies were nominally Qing armies, in fact they were two completely different armies in terms of training, organization, and equipment.

The Hunan army was the first army with modern characteristics in China, while the horse team of Seng Lingqin was still a traditional feudal army.

Monk Greenqin's horse team was finally surrounded and annihilated by the peasant rebel army, and he himself was killed.

The Twist Army was leveled by another modernized army, Li Hongzhang's Huai Army.

Foreigners are just harassing the Qing Dynasty, the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom really intends to destroy the Qing Dynasty These are two different natures, the Qing Dynasty is a pug to foreigners, but the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom is fear, anxiety and anger, and the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom was not destroyed by the Qing Dynasty, it was destroyed by the Qing Dynasty and foreigners.

Objectively speaking, Zeng Guofan's army is indeed powerful, and in any case, he is the regular army of the country. No matter how bad his governance is, it is not comparable to the spontaneous organization of the reckless peasants!

The regular army has layers of systems to check each other, and the soldiers have no autonomy, although it is cruel, but it does ensure the combat effectiveness of the army to a certain extent. The Taiping army relied on the persecution of a cruel life, had a great deal of autonomy, and was very easy to disperse. (You can take a look at what *** said, the characteristics of small farmers, the strength of the PLA is actually mainly due to the characteristics of small farmers).

Putting aside the class nature, not saying anything about the ruling class and not the ruling class, Zeng Guofan is a very powerful figure personally.

His thinking is very correct Zeng Guo Fan Family Letter -- his admonition to the descendants of the Zeng family is very affirmed!

commented that Zeng Guofan was "the most powerful figure in the modern landlord class".

Word by word, typed ......Hope to be adopted......

What other armies, the Eight Banners Army, the Green Battalion Army? Since entering the customs, the Eight Banners Army has degenerated step by step, carrying cages and birds all day long.

Idle, lazy, and hard-working, he is a full social parasite, and he can't even get on a horse! After the middle of the Qing Dynasty, it was barely possible to engage in local law and order, and fighting a war was like sending meat to the anvil! The Green Battalion Army has never been the main force, and its salary is far inferior to that of the Eight Banners Army, and it is under the monitoring and control of the Eight Banners Army.

In addition, there was also the Mongol army of Seng Lingqin, and the Huai army of Li Hongzhang, which was built later than Zeng Guofan, which also played a role in suppressing the Taiping army.

After the Eight Banners Army entered the customs, the brave Eight Banners Iron Cavalry gradually decadent in the Taiping, and basically had no combat effectiveness in the later period. The main fighting army relied on the Han people, that is, the Green Camp Army, and Zeng Guofan's Hunan Army was the regular army of the Qing Dynasty, which was under the control of the Qing Dynasty, but it was the wizard of Zeng Guofan who was mainly founded. Because in view of the fact that the Eight Banners Army could not do it, a new army was organized.

Li Hongzhang's Huai Army was also born under such circumstances. Hope it helps.

During the Taiping Rebellion, the Eight Banners Army and the Green Battalion Army lost their combat effectiveness basically and completely due to the chaotic military and political system, the military morale was weakened, corruption was serious, and the combat effectiveness was basically completely lost. Zeng Guofan, as a literati, in order to maintain the rule of the Qing Dynasty, returned to his hometown Hunan at the call of Emperor Guangxu to form the Hunan Army, and Li Hongzhang also formed the Huai Army with the help of his teacher Zeng Guofan. Therefore, Zeng Guofan was given a yellow coat, and Li Hongzhang was also greatly rewarded.

At the same time, Zeng Guofan's younger brother Zeng Guoquan was also greatly rewarded, but because Zeng Guofan's character was cautious, he was afraid that his high merit would lead to death, so he let his younger brother return to his hometown and refused a large number of rewards. At the same time, Zeng Guofan was also an advocate of the Westernization Movement, and he deeply felt the power of foreign guns and cannons. The Anqingnei Ordnance Institute, which he single-handedly founded, also played a great role.

Of course, we can't ignore Zeng Guofan's own talent, he has both ability and political integrity, and appreciates talents. Li Hongzhang and Zuo Zongtang were both his staff, and he was a model in the eyes of the literati at that time. The strength of the Hunan army is obvious.

It was only later that Zeng Guofan, in order to "protect himself", reduced a large number of Hunan troops, and finally merged into the Huai Army, which was led by Li Hongzhang.

Because by the end of the Qing Dynasty, the domineering elite soldiers of the Qing Dynasty were no longer elite and could not resist the Taiping army. Therefore, let Zeng Guofan and other Han people recruit troops by themselves, Zeng Guofan's power is the largest and the army is the strongest.

Tsang's army was strong and well commanded.

The Taiping Heavenly Kingdom is a rebel army composed of peasants, the troop structure is not standardized, it belongs to the miscellaneous militia, the Hunan army is well-trained, and the combat power is naturally stronger than the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom, but the equipment of the Eight-Nation Alliance is far better than that of the Hunan army, so it can't be stopped.

Because the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom and the Eight-Nation Alliance are not an army of magnitude, the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom is a group of rabble, to put it bluntly, while the Eight-Nation Alliance is a regular army, and the Hunan army suffers relatively in terms of equipment and other aspects when facing them.

Because fighting with the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom is a civil war, the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom's ** and military strength are not stronger than the Hunan army. And the Eight-Nation Alliance, whether it is an army or weapons, is much stronger than the Hunan army, so it can't be stopped.

Because the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom's ** equipment was similar to that of the Qing Dynasty, and the morale was low due to civil strife, and the Eight-Nation Coalition was well-equipped, the Hunan army was not their opponent.

The military strength of the Eight-Nation Coalition is far greater than that of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom, and the military ** of the Hunan Army is far from that of the Eight-Nation Alliance. In addition, the Qing Dynasty was already very afraid of foreign invaders.

The most powerful Hunan army of the late Qing Dynasty was all evacuated by Zeng Guofan, and a large part of them returned to their hometowns and disappeared, leaving only a small part to defend Jiangnan.

The cautious Zeng Guofan really knew too well how to "fly the birds and hide the bow" to become an official, so after the fall of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom, he disbanded the most powerful Hunan army, leaving only a small part for self-defense. It is precisely because he is too knowledgeable about current affairs that Cixi will trust him.

Zeng Guopan dismantled the Hunan army, leaving only a small part to guard Jiangnan, and all the rest returned to his hometown Hunan. The Hunan army that returned to Hunan gradually disappeared, but in the Jiangnan region, this part was preserved intact.