In the Three Kingdoms, Pound was so loyal, why did he abandon Ma Chao in the first place?

Because he and Ma Chao had a disagreement on their concepts, the two of them were no longer concentric, so they left Ma Chao.

At that time, Pang De had already seen that Ma Chao was not a person who could achieve great things, and wanted to find a way out for himself as soon as possible, so he left Ma Chao.

Cao Cao and Han Sui attacked Ma Chao, Ma Chao fled in a hurry, did not take a few followers, Pang De was captured by Cao Cao after receiving Cao's preferential treatment, has always been very grateful, so he died to repay Cao Cao. On the other hand, Ma Chao and Pang De's friendship for many years is only a friendship between superiors and subordinates, and Cao Cao's courtesy of making Pang De feel "valued" is Cao Cao's more clever means to win people's hearts.

It is because he admires Cao Cao very much, and thinks that Cao Cao is a hero, and he also supports some of Cao Cao's ideas and opinions, so he is willing to dedicate his life to Cao Cao.

This is because Pang De was already ready when he saw Cao Cao, ready to know that he would die in the future, so he entrusted his life to Cao Cao.

Everyone's choice is different, everyone has their favorite monarch, so it is normal to have such a choice.

There are two reasons, one is that when Ma Chao defected to Liu Bei, he was in a hurry, not only did he not have time to take Pang De, but he didn't even have time to take away his wife and children. And Pang De was very contemptuous of Ma Chao's repeated accidents, so Ma Chao couldn't find Pang De later, and Pang De didn't bother to work with Ma Chao to assist Liu Bei.

Pang De is a tiger general, brave in battle, and has made many achievements under Ma Chao, and he is also very loyal. And Ma Chao's original was nominally under Cao Cao, Ma Chao's father Ma Teng was originally Xiliang Taishou, and later Ma Teng was killed by Cao Cao because of the edict of Emperor Han Xian, so Ma Teng raised an army against Cao. This matter can be said to be Ma Chao's family matter, Pound was only hindered by Ma Chao's subordinates at that time, so he followed Ma Chao to oppose Cao Cao, and he himself had no motive to oppose Cao Cao.

Later, Ma Chao was defeated and defected to Zhang Lu in Hanzhong, and Zhang Lu's popularity was relatively small, and he was coerced by Cao Cao, ready to kill Ma Chao and dedicate his head to Cao Cao, Ma Chao found out about this situation, so he led his younger brother Ma Dai to leave Hanzhong and defect to Liu Bei in Yizhou. Ma Chao was in a hurry when he left, and he didn't even have time to take his wife and daughter away, if he wanted to take Pang De, at least he needed some persuasion, but there was no time at that time.

In the Romance of the Three Kingdoms, it is said that Pang De did not follow Ma Chao mainly because he was sick at the time, but in fact, if he was sick and later recovered, he could still defect to his old master privately, but Pang De never followed Ma Chao again, and later when Cao Cao led the troops to take Hanzhong, Pang De also voted for Cao Cao. Later, Guan Yu led the troops to attack Xiangyang and Fancheng, Yu Ban was the commander, Pang De led the Seventh Army as the vanguard to meet the battle, Guan Yu flooded the Seventh Army, Pang De was captured, he did not listen to Guan Yu's persuasion to surrender, and was beheaded by Guan Yu.

At that time, Ma Chao was his father and younger brother were killed, so he directly chose to betray Cao Cao, and then left his wife and children in Zhang Lu, which can be said to have completely abandoned everything, and there was no need for Pang De to follow Ma Chao.

Because Ma Chao at that time was because his father and younger brother were killed, he directly chose to betray Cao Cao, but Pang De had no reason to betray.

Mainly because Pang De thought that Cao Cao was a more talented monarch than Liu Bei, and once said, "Shaft, what is surrender!" The king of Wei led millions of armored soldiers and shook the world. Your Liu Bei is just a mediocre talent, how can he be against the King of Wei! I'd rather be a ghost of the country than a thief. ”

Ma Chao rebelled first, regardless of the life and death of his father and brother, he was already disloyal and unfilial. When he defected to Liu Bei, he left his wife and son in Zhang Lu, but his wife ignored it, and Pang De was probably left by Ma Chao himself in Zhang Lu, in fact, Ma Chao didn't want Pang De.

At that time, Ma Chao could be said to be an act of betrayal, and it was actually reasonable for Pang De not to follow, and Cao Cao was also very good to Pang De.

Pang De is grateful to Cao Cao for his kindness, and he also understands Cao Cao's personality, he knows that after his death, his family will be properly taken care of, so even if he dies in battle, he has no worries.

Ma Chao belonged to Liu Bei at that time, it can be said that Ma Chao was the one who betrayed, why did Pang De follow Ma Chao to betray, so Pang De did not follow to join Liu Bei.

The reason why Pang De surrendered to Cao Cao instead of following Ma Chao to Liu Bei was probably because he was more optimistic about the prospects of Cao Cao's forces.

Because Pang De felt that Cao Cao's talent was better than Liu Bei's, he took refuge in Cao Cao and did not follow Ma Chao to Liu Bei.

Pang De has good food and accommodation in Cao Cao's place, why should he follow Ma Chao to the enemy? And Pound is not the kind of person who will casually abandon his master.

In August of the twenty-fourth year of Jian'an (219), the flood in the Hanshui valley swelled and inundated Fancheng, the garrison of Cao's army.

In the face of Guan Yu's persuasion, Yu Ban quickly agreed, but Pang De refused, at that time Pang De and Yu Ban were in a different situation, Yu Ban had no other relationship with Liu Bei Group except for a period of time when he was a colleague with Guan Yu (Guan Yu had a period of time to demote Cao).

On the other hand, Pang De was different, his old superior Ma Teng was killed by Cao Cao, his new superior Ma Chao served as the left general under Liu Bei, and more importantly, he also had a brother named Pang Rou who worked in Hanzhong under Liu Bei's jurisdiction. It can be said that no matter how you look at it, Pound is fully capable of demoting Liu.

Even if Guan Yu was shot in the forehead by Pang De in the battle, Guan Yu was still able to ignore his previous suspicions and treat Pang De with reason and affection, but Pang De just didn't surrender and was bent on dying. Why is that?

Pang De is a native of Xiliang, he served under Ma Teng in his early years, and later because of his merit to the Zhonglang general, he was given the title of Marquis of Duting, and after Ma Teng entered the court, he followed Ma Chao.

Pound is a fierce general, often serving as a vanguard, but the enemy is trapped, and he should be deeply valued by the Ma father and son. However, after Ma Chao joined Zhang Lu, the two began to part ways, Ma Chao later took refuge with Liu Bei, while Pang De surrendered to Cao Cao.

As for why Pang De did not follow Ma Chao to join Liu, the specific reason is unknown, some people think that when Ma Chao defected to Liu Bei, he did not take him, but let him stay in Hanzhong. After Zhang Lu surrendered to Cao, Pang De also surrendered to Cao Cao and served under Cao Cao.

Cao Cao is a person who cherishes talents, and when he saw that Pang De was a rare Xiliang general, he bowed to him and made him a marquis. On the other hand, Ma Chao abandoned him, and Cao Cao was of great use to him, Pang De was probably grateful for Cao Cao's kindness, and Cao Cao was the hero of the world, so Pang De followed Cao Cao with all his heart.

When Pang De was guarding Fancheng, Cao Wei's generals were quite suspicious of Pang De because his brother Pang Rou had already worked in Shu Han (not yet established at this time, and the text refers to Liu Bei's group). But Cao Cao put him here, which shows Cao Cao's trust in him.

And Pang De did not live up to Cao Cao's trust, and took the lead in the battle of Fancheng, once shooting Guan Yu, the main general of Shu Han. After being captured, in the face of Guan Yu's persuasion, he was also loyal and regarded death as home, even Cao Cao was surprised, which shows that Pang De is also a righteous person.

Speaking of which, I have to mention Cao Cao's personal charm, Zhang Liao and Zhang He among the five good generals are both surrendered generals and surrendered to Cao Cao, both of them are loyal to Cao Wei, and have made great contributions to Cao Wei, especially Zhang Liao is deeply valued by Cao Cao.

Because he felt that Cao Cao was more powerful and improved his abilities, and Cao Cao was a very wise person, he always followed Cao Cao.

Because he felt that Cao Cao's approach was very correct, and he was in love with himself, he was still loyal to Cao Cao when he was dying.

Because Cao Cao can give him what he wants, he can be reused by Cao Cao, and Cao Cao can treat him as a confidant.

Although Ma Chao was Pang De's former owner, he was not good to Pang De, leaving Pang De, who was seriously ill, behind, and finally Cao Cao found someone to help him heal. And Pang De was originally loyal to Ma Chao's father Ma Teng, and the relationship between the two was not particularly close, so he surrendered to Cao Cao.

Ma Chao is a brave and unscrupulous person, he is more like Xiang Yu during the Chu and Han hegemony periods, no one is afraid of fighting alone, but he doesn't know how to buy people's hearts, so that Yingbu betrayed him, and Pang De is the same, he is the same as Ma Chao, he is the best young generation in the Xiliang Army, but Ma Chao regards himself as brave and extraordinary, and does not take Pang De in his eyes, when he took refuge in Zhang Lu in Hanzhong, because he sent people under the fence, he had to obey his orders to attack Liu Bei, but he surrendered halfway, his approach is very beneficial to Liu Bei, But for Pang De, who stayed in Hanzhong, his situation was very embarrassing, and even Zhang Lu would not treat him well, so in his heart Pang De had some resentment towards Ma Chao, he only sought a way out for himself, and did not care at all about the brothers who worked hard with him.

Cao Cao admired Pang De's talent, sent someone to give him ** and gave him enough official titles and performance opportunities, since ancient times, the scholar died as a confidant, although Pang De was loyal to Ma Chao before, but the other party did not cherish him, and he is indeed not a person worth following, he does not have any strategy, when facing Cao Cao, he was defeated by the other party with a little trick, plus when Ma Teng was deceived into the palace before, Ma Chao did not care about his father's life, and it can also be seen that he is a cold person, also completely chilled Pang De's heart, and in comparison with the two, he was naturally more inclined to Cao Cao.

Originally, Cao Cao wanted to send Pang De to command the Seventh Army, but because of Yu Ban, he was reduced to a deputy general, and this also shows Cao Cao's trust in him, if he makes a contribution to this career, he will have a better future, and his heart will be chaotic when he is broken, as long as he is determined to do one thing, he will not leave a way back for himself, and he carried the coffin to the battlefield to show his position.

Because he felt that the latter had no way out. And Pound didn't want to rebel with him, he wanted to live a stable life.

Because Ma Chao changed camps at will, Pang De looked down on him, and when Ma Chao defected to Liu Bei, he did not inform Pang De, but abandoned him.

The main reason is that I had other options later, and I was better for myself, so I didn't do that.

Ma Chao and Pang De were both military leaders in the late Eastern Han Dynasty and the Three Kingdoms period in ancient China. Ma Chao was a general and military strategist known for his bravery and martial arts, while Pound was his trusted subordinate and subordinate general.

There is some historical debate about whether Pound actually betrayed Ma Chao, but the most widely accepted theory is that Pound did betray Ma Chao. The reason for their breakup is not entirely clear, but it is believed to be related to a power struggle between the two. According to some historical accounts, Pound was jealous of Ma Chao's status and influence and tried to undermine him by plotting against him and spreading false rumors.

Regardless of the specific situation, it is clear that Ma Chao and Pound parted ways and eventually became mortal enemies. Ma Chao later allied himself with another military leader, Liu Bei, and played an important role in the battles and campaigns of the Three Kingdoms period. At the same time, Pang De became a general of the hostile Wei state.

Finally, the missteps of Ma Chao and Pang De were a major event in the history of the Three Kingdoms, which had a profound impact on the outcome of the wars and battles that took place at that time.

It is indeed a betrayal, just because Pang De doesn't like this Ma Chao and thinks that he doesn't act, even if he assists him, it is useless, it is better to betray directly.

did not betray Ma Chao, but he put forward a different opinion at that time, and Ma Chao thought that Pang De no longer wanted to stand on the same front as himself.

Not only because he betrayed Ma Chao, but also because the two of them had different ways and did not conspire with each other. That's why the two of them parted ways.

Introduction, at the beginning, Pang De was Ma Chao's subordinate, and later Pang De had already invested in Cao Cao's disciples, but when he was in Jingzhou, he wanted to surrender to Pang De, but Pang De did not choose Ma Chao but chose Cao Cao, for what reason? <

1. The reason why Pound does not follow Ma Chao.

In fact, Pang De just felt that he had already chosen to join Cao Cao's disciples at the very beginning, and if he was recruited by Guan Yu and joined Ma Chao's disciples, he would appear to be particularly immoral, and he would not be trusted by others. Although the world is very big, if Pound does this, then there will be no place for Pound in the whole world. So when Guan Yu surrendered to Pang De, Pang De did not agree.

In "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", it was said that when Guan Yu carried out the Northern Expedition, Cao Cao felt very panicked. And no one was willing to lead troops to fight Guan Yu, so only Pang De came out to prepare for a battle with Guan Yu, and in the end, Pang De did not fight Guan Yu, so he was beheaded. <

2. The reason why Pang De chose to serve Cao Cao.

The main reason is because Ma Chao does not trust Pound very much, because of Ma Chao's distrust, so Pound is very sad, and if Pound chooses to follow Cao Cao, he will be more valued, and he will have more use of force, so he can show his skills? But if you follow Ma Chao, Ma Chao will feel that Pound is a very capable person, and he is afraid that Pound will usurp the throne, so he has not allowed Pound to show his skills, so this makes Pound feel very sad and feels that it is useless to follow Ma Chao. Because Pound's own martial arts are also very superb, Pound could have become a very powerful general, but due to Ma Chao's distrust, Pound has never had the opportunity to show his talents.

3. Summary. Pang De chose to betray Ma Chao, and choosing Cao Cao was just to take what he needed, because Pang De was not reused on Ma Chao's side, and his talent could not be displayed. But if Pang De gets to Cao Cao's side, he will get Tao Tao's important talent and be able to display it.

In comparison, Cao Cao was a better choice for Pound.