Wei Yan and Huang Zhong surrendered to Liu Bei at the same time, why was Wei Yan not the general of

Updated on history 2024-03-24
25 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-07

    The Five Tiger Generals refer to the five generals who followed Liu Bei to establish the Shu Han during the Three Kingdoms period at the end of the Han Dynasty. They are Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, Zhao Yun, Ma Chao, and Huang Zhong. When Chen Shou first wrote "Three Kingdoms", he juxtaposed the five people into a biography, but did not put forward the concept of the five tiger generals, and then after a long historical evolution, these five people were shaped into five tiger generals, and in literary works, historical books, personal collections have different degrees of records, in the folk is widely circulated in the form of art.

    For the Five Tiger Generals of Shu Han, Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, and Zhao Yun began to follow as early as Liu Bei's early days. As far as Ma Chao is concerned, although he followed Liu Bei relatively late, Ma Chao was originally a prince of one side, and he was not even inferior to Liu Bei, who was a descendant of the Han family.

    As far as Huang Zhong is concerned, he followed Liu Bei after the Battle of Chibi. In the fourteenth year of Jian'an (208), Liu Bei and Sun Quan formed a coalition to defeat Cao Cao's army, and Cao Cao returned to the north. A year later, Liu Bei took the opportunity to occupy Jingzhou and led Zhao Yun and others to conquer the four counties of Changsha in the south.

    Huang Zhong followed Han Xuan and surrendered to Liu Bei. It is worth noting that due to the lack of historical records, it is currently impossible to determine the time when Wei Yan followed Liu Bei. However, according to "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", Wei Yan joined Liu Bei's side at about the same time as Huang Zhong.

    So, the question is, Wei Yan and Huang Zhong surrendered to Liu Bei at the same time, why is Wei Yan not the five tiger generals of Shu Han?

    First of all, Huang Zhong (?) 220), the character Hansheng (a "Han uncle"), a native of Nanyang County (now Nanyang City, Henan Province). A famous general of the Shu Han Dynasty during the Three Kingdoms period.

    In the third year of Chuping (192), Liu Biao, the assassin of Jingzhou, served as the pastor of Jingzhou. Huang Zhong was appointed by Liu Biao as a Zhonglang general, and his nephew Liu Pan garrisoned Changsha Youxian (present-day Youxian County, Hunan Province). At the end of the Eastern Han Dynasty, Huang Zhong was originally a subordinate of Mu Liu Biao of Jingzhou.

    In the thirteenth year of Jian'an (208), Cao Cao waved his army south, and Liu Biao died of illness. After Cao Cao surrendered to Jingzhou, he was still an official in Changsha County with Huang Zhong ** as a general, and he was under the command of Han Xuan, the Taishou of Changsha. After the death of Mu Liu Biao in Jingzhou, Huang Zhong nominally became Cao Cao's subordinate.

    Soon after, in the Battle of Chibi, Liu Bei and Sun Quan formed an alliance to defeat Cao Cao's army, and Cao Cao returned north.

    In 209 AD, Liu Bei took the opportunity to occupy Jingzhou and led Zhao Yun and others to conquer the four counties of Changsha in the south. Huang Zhong followed Han Xuan and surrendered to Liu Bei. Correspondingly, although the specific time when Wei Yan followed Liu Bei, there is no clear historical record.

    However, Wei Yan (?) 234), a native of Yiyang Ping (now Tongbai County, Henan Province).

    As a native of Jingzhou, Wei Yan only came to prominence in 211 AD and followed Liu Bei into Yizhou. Therefore, the time when Wei Yan surrendered to Liu Bei should be close to Huang Zhong, that is, after the Battle of Chibi. However, in the end, Huang Zhong became one of the five tiger generals, and as far as Wei Yan was concerned, he was not the five tiger generals of Shu Han.

    In this regard, in the author's opinion, the reason for this situation is mainly that in the process of the establishment of Shu Han, Huang Zhong made more prominent military exploits.

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-06

    First of all, when Liu Bei canonized the Five Tiger Generals, Wei Yan was not outstanding, his qualifications were not enough, and his ability was not enough. As a veteran, Huang Zhong has both military exploits and ability.

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-05

    Because Wei Yan has no record and will lose every battle when facing Cao Wei, he will not be reused.

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-04

    Because Wei Yan's combat effectiveness is not as high as Huang Zhonggao, plus Zhuge Liang rejects Wei Yan. Therefore, Wei Yan is not a Five Tiger General.

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-03

    The reason why Wei Yan did not become one of the Five Tiger Generals was because there was a gap between his strength and the Five Tiger Generals, and his loyalty was also doubted, and he killed his lord Han Xuan when he surrendered to Liu Bei.

    First, Wei Yan and Huang Zhong surrendered to Liu Bei at the same time, but he was different from Huang Zhong, Huang Zhong did not want to surrender at the beginning, but fought to the death with Guan Yu, although he was very old, he was able to fight a draw with Guan Yu, and his force was also above Wei Yan, and he was extremely prestigious in the army, the reason why Han Xuan wanted to kill Huang Zhong was because he was suspected of rebellion in the process of fighting with Guan Yu, and on the other hand, he was also afraid of his prestige. After Wei Yan defected to Han Xuan, he was never reused, and he also looked down on Han Xuan, so he killed him at a critical moment. But his approach is very similar to Lu Bu before, first took refuge in Ding Yuan and killed Ding Yuan, and then took refuge in Dong Zhuo and killed Dong Zhuo.

    So even if he took the initiative to take refuge in Liu Bei, Zhuge Liang was also suspicious of his loyalty.

    Second, Wei Yan had long wanted to defect to Liu Bei. He was under Liu Cong in the early days, and the other party did not let Liu Bei enter the city, so Wei Yan stood up and opened the city gate, but Liu Bei was afraid of disturbing the people in the city and was unwilling to force it. It can also be seen from here that Wei Yan has long admired Liu Bei, and because the two have a relationship, Wei Yan has left a very good impression in Liu Bei's heart, so Liu Bei will try his best to protect Wei Yan.

    Third, after Wei Yan defected to Liu Bei, he fought against several generals, including Ma Chao's brother Ma Dai, although he was not an opponent of gastritis, he could injure Wei Yan. Pang De was originally Ma Chao's subordinate, and after defecting to Cao Cao, he also had a fight with Wei Yan, Wei Yan was also unable to defeat the other party, plus his seniority in the Shu Han army was far inferior to the other five, so he could not become the general of the Five Tigers.

  6. Anonymous users2024-02-02

    Because there was a certain gap between his strength and the Five Tiger Generals, and his loyalty was doubted by others, he did not become one of the Five Tiger Generals.

  7. Anonymous users2024-02-01

    Because before evaluating the five tiger generals, Wei Yan's record was not very convincing.

  8. Anonymous users2024-01-31

    Because this person is not particularly loyal, this person has some strategies of his own, so there is no place for this person.

  9. Anonymous users2024-01-30

    Wei Yan was even more powerful, because he repelled the enemy in one fell swoop when he only had 40,000 horses in Hanzhong, and in addition to the military talents of Zhuge Liang and Guan Yu in the entire Shu Han, he was next.

  10. Anonymous users2024-01-29

    I think Huang Zhong's martial arts are relatively higher, because the veteran is old but experienced.

  11. Anonymous users2024-01-28

    Personally, I think that if you compare Huang Zhong and Wei Yan, Wei Yan's martial arts are more powerful, he has participated in many wars, he has very rich experience and martial arts skills, and his martial arts are relatively higher.

  12. Anonymous users2024-01-27

    When it comes to the five tiger generals in "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", everyone must be familiar with it. In the romance, after Liu Bei seized Hanzhong and proclaimed himself the king of Hanzhong, he named Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, Zhao Yun, Ma Chao, and Huang Zhong as the five tiger generals. Now some people on the Internet say that Wei Yan surrendered to Liu Bei at about the same time as Huang Zhong, why was he not selected.

    The five tiger generals named by Liu Bei are all top-level super-first-class generals in the romance without exception

    Like Guan Yu beheaded Huaxiong with warm wine under Bishui Pass, and then beheaded Yan Liang and Wen Chou, riding alone for thousands of miles, famous all over the world; Zhang Fei drew with Lu Bu many times, repeatedly killed Xu Chu with his head and scurried, and when Yang Changban Bridge rode alone to retreat Cao Cao's army; When Zhao Yun was still a teenager, he fought to a draw with the famous Hebei general Wen Chou, and in the battle of Yushan, Xu Chu, Li Dian, and Yu Ban fought alone, and Changbanpo rescued Adou by riding the savior alone; Ma Chao killed Cao Cao in the battle of Tongguan and cut his robe, and later fought with Xu Chu and Zhang Fei for more than 200 battles, without winning or losing; Huang Zhong drew with Guan Yu three times in the Battle of Changsha, killed the general Xiahou Yuan in the Battle of Dingjun Mountain, and fought Zhang He and Xu Huang alone in the Battle of Beishan.

    Without exception, these five people are all famous in the romance, and they are famous and have few opponents, which is enough to rank among the top masters of the super first-class. In comparison, Wei Yan is inferior.

    In the battle between Liu Bei and Cao Cao for the boundary of the valley in Hanzhong, Wei Yan fought against Pang De twice. The first time the two fought for a short time, Ma Chao came from behind and attacked the Cao army camp. Cao Cao was anxious to return to the army to rescue, and without waiting for Pang De and Wei Yan to divide the victory, he ordered all the generals to move forward together, forced Wei Yan back, and then led the army to fight Ma Chao.

    The second time was when Cao Cao commanded the army to fight with Ma Chao at a high place, Wei Yan suddenly killed and shot Cao Cao in the middle of the people with an arrow, shooting him off his horse. When Wei Yan was about to step forward and kill Cao Cao, Pang De came out from the side and knocked him back.

    Judging from the results of these two battles, Wei Yan is not Pang De's opponent, he can only draw with him in a short time, and his martial arts are one level lower than Pang De. And Pang De fought with Guan Yu in the subsequent battle of Fancheng for hundreds of rounds, and it was obvious that the two were equal in martial arts. In this way, Wei Yan's martial arts are also one level lower than Guan Yu.

    In addition, during Zhuge Liang's Northern Expedition, Wei Yan had encountered Zhang He, a famous general of Cao Wei, many times, and both of them were helpless against each other in battle, and their martial arts should be about the same.

    And Zhang He was defeated by Zhao Yun in the Battle of Wanshan, lost to Ma Chao in the Battle of Tongguan, and was defeated by Zhang Fei many times in the battles of Langzhong, Danqu, and Wakou Pass, and the Battle of Beishan and Xu Huang were unable to defeat Huang Zhong. Obviously, Zhang He's martial arts are inferior to Zhao Yun, Ma Chao, Zhang Fei, and Huang Zhong, and Wei Yan is naturally inferior.

    Therefore, it is obvious that Wei Yan is one level inferior in martial arts compared to any of the Five Tiger Generals, so he is naturally not qualified to be selected as the Five Tiger Generals.

    Of course, although Wei Yan is not a top-level master, he once drew with the famous generals Wen Ping and Zhang He, defeated Ling Bao and Ma Dai, captured Meng Shu alive, and killed Wei generals Cao Zun and Wang Shuang, and his performance was also very good. On the whole, Wei Yan can be among the first-class generals like Xiahou Yuan, Zhang He, Zhang Liao and others, second only to the Five Tiger Generals in the Shuhan Group, and can be regarded as a general.

  13. Anonymous users2024-01-26

    Because Wei Yan didn't play a very bright result. The record is not in a grade. And there is no Huang Zhong experienced in dealing with people. It is very normal that you can't get into the Five Tiger Generals.

  14. Anonymous users2024-01-25

    The reason why he can't become a Five Tiger General is because his own merits and strength are different from the other five people, so he didn't succeed in becoming a Five Tiger General.

  15. Anonymous users2024-01-24

    Because his reputation is too low to be compared with Huang Zhong, he is not ranked among the five tiger generals, and he has no force, so he is much inferior to Huang Zhong.

  16. Anonymous users2024-01-23

    Because Wei Yan is deficient in dealing with people, he does not have enough military exploits, his personal ability is not outstanding, and his martial arts are not as good as others.

  17. Anonymous users2024-01-22

    Objectively speaking, Wei Yan's martial arts should be slightly higher than Huang Zhong's, although Wei Yan's IQ is not as good as Huang Zhong's, but he still has the ability to lead troops, and he can be among the generals.

  18. Anonymous users2024-01-21

    Compared with these two people, their martial arts are comparable, after all, the overall strength of the two of them is very strong, and they are also very famous generals in the Chu and Han dynasties, and they have made great contributions to the development of Wuhan.

  19. Anonymous users2024-01-20

    I think Huang Zhong's martial arts are higher, and Huang Zhong's ranking is higher than Wei Yan's, so his influence is also greater.

  20. Anonymous users2024-01-19

    This is because some of the things Wei Yan did not win Zhuge Liang's appreciation, and he did not have any development for the country, so he did not receive Zhuge Liang's favor.

  21. Anonymous users2024-01-18

    is because the other party is in Cao Ying's heart is in Han, he is not clear enough about his positioning, and he often does some bad things, so he is not accepted by the other party.

  22. Anonymous users2024-01-17

    Because Zhuge Kongming felt that he was equal to his own strength, if he was reused, it was very likely that his reputation would be ruined.

  23. Anonymous users2024-01-16

    I think Huang Zhong is relatively strong, his martial arts are superior, he has brought a lot of victories to his country, and he has also made a lot of great achievements, and he is loved by many people.

  24. Anonymous users2024-01-15

    Huang Zhong was furious and proposed to compete with Wei Yan in martial arts, but Wei Yan did not show weakness. Seeing this, Liu Bei immediately explained that the strategist Pang Tong suggested that Huang Zhong and Wei Yan each attack each other's fortresses, and whoever wins first will be the first to take credit. It stands to reason that Wei Yan has a life-saving grace for Huang Zhong, Huang Zhong is a respected veteran, and the two have no holidays.

  25. Anonymous users2024-01-14

    Why didn't Wei Yan become the general of the Five Tigers? Among the Shu generals, Wei Yan's status is second only to the Five Tiger Generals, but his exploits for the Shu State are by no means less than Ma Chao and Huang Zhong, why did he fail to become the Five Tiger Generals? This requires us to first see who the five tiger generals are, Guan, Zhang, Zhao, Ma, Huang, Guan Yu, Zhang Fei are Liu Bei's brothers, following Liu Bei from birth to death, fighting for decades, they became the first two of the five tiger generals, and they are the first two of the five tiger generals.

    Moreover, at that time, Guan Yu had become the number one general at that time, and countless famous generals had died under him, and the enemy army would flee as soon as they heard Guan Yu's name. Don't believe what I said, when Guan Yu broke through Fancheng, Cao Cao was so frightened that he wanted to move the capital, thanks to Sima Yi's timely advice. At that time, Guan Yu was already known as the world's mighty and became the head of the Five Tiger Generals, and even the enemy would admire him very much.

    Let's talk about Zhang Fei, although he is not as famous as Guan Laoer, but when he retired Cao Cao's millions of male soldiers in Dangyang Changban Pohe, he also made himself prestige, and he is also a good brother of Liu Bei who was born and died, and it is normal to be ranked among the five tiger generals. Zhao Yun needless to say, this Zhao Zilong, who is "not a Jinlan and a friendship better than Taoyuan" with Liu Bei, is not as famous as Guan Yu, but in fact, his military exploits for the Shu State are the greatest, he is one of the best generals, if a war is compared to playing chess, Zhao Yun is the invincible chariot in the chess pieces, if it weren't for his age than Liu, Guan, and Zhang (in fact, he is only one year younger than Zhang Fei), he can become the head of the Five Tiger Generals, but he will be willing to become the third, he and Liu Guan are the same siblingsWhy fight for this position? There are still two candidates for the five tiger generals, and they should be selected among Ma Chao, Huang Zhong, and Wei Yan, but why did they choose the first two?

    Let's take a look at what Guan Yu said after knowing the candidates for the Five Tiger Generals: "Yide, my brother also, Zilong has been with my brother for a long time, and my brother is also my brother, Ma Mengqi is a famous family for generations, and he can be with me; What kind of person is Huang Zhong, who can be ranked with me? This statement seems to say the reason why Ma Chao became the general of the Five Tigers - a generation of famous people, but this is not the case, the reason why Ma Chao and Huang Zhong became the generals of the Five Tigers is the same, after they surrendered to Shu, they were far less active on the battlefield than Wei Yan, but they made a miraculous achievement that Wei Yan failed to make, Ma Chao had persuaded Liuzhang to surrender, Huang Zhong had captured the military mountain when attacking Hanzhong, beheaded Xiahou Yuan, Liu Bei took Hanzhong, Huang Zhong played the greatest role.

    These two people have won territory for Shu, and then look back at Guan Chang Zhao Yun, the entire Jingzhou was taken by their brothers, and the five tiger generals have won territory for Shu. I think everyone should understand this time that the reason why the Five Tiger Generals did not have Wei Yan was because the criteria for selecting the candidates for the Five Tiger Generals at that time were based on the amount of land captured, and Wei Yan had always been a deputy general to assist the Five Tiger Generals, and every inch of land captured by Shu could not be regarded as his credit, so the Five Tiger Generals had no part in him. Satisfaction is given points.

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