How much of a threat can the USS Waglian pose to the United States?

US Military Daily: China's new aircraft carrier is not inferior to Britain's new aircraft carrier.

Updated: 2009 01 05 15:35

The U.S. Navy Times reported that China's upcoming aircraft carriers are comparable to those of the Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carriers that Britain has already begun building.

Xinhuanet quoted a report as saying that China plans to start building two aircraft carriers this year, which are expected to be launched in 2015 with a displacement of about 50,000 to 60,000 tons, will be powered by conventional power, and will patrol the South China Sea after entering service, while shouldering the responsibility of protecting China's oil import routes.

The US Navy Times quoted the People's Liberation Army Daily as saying that the Dalian Naval Academy of the Chinese Navy has accepted 50 flight cadets for four years of carrier-based aircraft flight training. Russia** also reported that China has ordered 50 Su-Kai-33 carrier-based aircraft.

According to the US Navy Times, if the aircraft carrier that China plans to build is really 50,000 to 60,000 tons in displacement, it will be comparable to the Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carrier that Britain is starting to build.

The United States quoted the Chinese Navy as saying that China's aircraft carriers in the future will be smaller than those of the US aircraft carriers and will have a relatively close range, and the United States should not regard China's aircraft carrier construction plan as a threat.

Not much of a threat.

Probably 2 3 Varyags can be equivalent to 1 Nimitz.

It can make the United States withdraw from the South China Sea.

A more valuable target.

The Waglian was mainly used for training, and the threat to the United States was self-evident.

It can be used as a target ship for the U.S. military's anti-aircraft carrier **.

<> the aircraft carrier "Varyag" is a sought-after cargo?

The predecessor of China's only active aircraft carrier "Liaoning" is actually Ukraine's "Varyag" aircraft carrier. However, China's purchase of the "Varyag" aircraft carrier from Ukraine has not been smooth sailing, and buyers and sellers are happy.

In addition to the sellers Ukraine and our country, a number of countries led by the United States are also involved in this transaction, although a discerning person knows at a glance that only China is really interested in this aircraft carrier, but in order to achieve a certain goal, these countries still jumped out.

In the early nineties of the last century, when the Soviet Union collapsed, at that time, the Black Sea shipyard had three unfinished aircraft carriers, one of which was the "Kuznetsov" aircraft carrier with a completion rate of more than 90 percent, and everyone knows that this aircraft carrier is now owned by the Russian Navy.

But it is said that a commander of the Russian fleet ordered his soldiers to secretly board the ship and forcibly steal the almost completed aircraft carrier back from the Ukrainian Black Sea shipyard. One of the remaining two aircraft carriers has a completion rate of more than 60 percent, while the other has just started construction and is 10 percent complete.

Because it cannot afford to continue the construction of the remaining two aircraft carriers, Ukraine hopes to sell them to ease the economy by the way. Naturally, there was little hope of the third ship being sold, so the public focus was on the second aircraft carrier, which was later named 'Varyag'. At first, Ukraine wanted to sell for $400 million, but with the increase in buyers, Ukraine finally increased the price to $2 billion, and China also expressed its willingness to buy, but because of the mixing of Western countries, it was not able to sell in the end.

By the end of the last century, the "Varyag" was still parked in the port like scrap metal, and the situation in Ukraine did not improve, so the determination to sell the aircraft carrier remained unchanged.

In order to avoid being interfered with by some countries as it was six years ago, China purchased the aircraft carrier from Ukraine on the pretext that Xu Zengping, a Macao entrepreneur, came forward to purchase an aircraft carrier as a casino. At that time, the two sides finalized the matter for $20 million, but just as the procurement agreement was basically agreed, foreign intelligence officers were eyeing it.

Subsequently, Ukraine informed that certain powers demanded that the aircraft carrier must be auctioned. In the final public bidding, China found that the countries participating in the bidding were the United States, Australia, South Korea, and Japan, but the highest bid of these countries was 18 million US dollars, which was far from China's bidding price of 20 million.

I think the full set of design drawings of this aircraft carrier is of great significance, and there is no need to repeat it, and the Varyag has only been roughly completed since it was towed to Dalian Port, and I think most of the time it was China's ship designers who were "eating the drawings"!

Looking at the history of aircraft carrier development in other countries in the world, the United States, Japan, France, Britain and other old naval powers, all have a history of nearly a hundred years of aircraft carrier construction and use, but China is almost blank in this regard, Chinese have never owned aircraft carriers at all, let alone construction and use experience? Therefore, the significance of the Varyag and its construction drawings is even more significant, I think that as long as our ship designers and military personnel are not too stupid, they will initially learn the knowledge of aircraft carrier construction from the reverse drawings, and as a result, they can combine the practical design and construction of our own aircraft carrier in the near future Chinese our country, so I say that the significance of the Varyag's smooth slippery deck to Chinese is not as simple as taking off and landing aircraft, what she brings us should be the starting point of the take-off of a naval power, I think this is the most profound influence of the Varyag on us Chinese.

Another significance is the training role, preparing for and practicing multiple aircraft carrier battle groups in the future. Training of aircraft carrier crews.

First, it can play the role of political deterrence and make those countries that try to occupy China's maritime territory more restrained.

Significance two, as we all know, China's reverse engineering capabilities are extremely strong, and when our experts understand the drawings thoroughly, the Chinese will have their own aircraft carriers.

Significance three, the Varyag can be used as a trainer aircraft carrier, which can train future aircraft carrier pilots.

China's first aircraft carrier has a very important role, and if deployed in the East China Sea, it can deter US aircraft carriers from approaching the East China Sea. At least 800 kilometers back, and if there is a situation, the J-15 fighter can take off from the Chinese aircraft carrier in advance to intercept, with the over-the-horizon radar deployed in China's coastal areas. The Varyag can also protect missile destroyers and submarines, and can blockade the entire East China Sea region, so as to give early warning, block in advance, and meet the battle in advance.

The presence of the Varyag in the East and South China Seas of China is completely overwhelming, and China's maritime interests are completely in China's periphery, and nuclear power is not so important.

Fighters with land takeoffs can compensate for the lack of the number of aircraft carriers.

This is not a one-to-one comparison of data, but a comparison of size. It's not a one-on-one boxing match, and it's not a college entrance exam with a difference of 1 point, the key depends on how it is used.

The aircraft carrier should be the largest project in the navy of every country, and first of all, its cost determines that the amount of work is very large. At present, the most expensive aircraft carrier in the world is the USS Ford, which costs up to $13 billion. For such an expensive military product, various countries are naturally very careful in their construction.

However, some time ago, the United States said that the world's most failed aircraft carriers are in China and Russia, why is this? American experts say that the Varyag and Kuznetsov are among the world's most failed aircraft carriers. Both aircraft carriers were built by the Soviet Union during the transitional period, and the word transition has made everyone understand the nature of these two aircraft carriers.

Although the Kuznetsov is currently the only aircraft carrier of the Russian Navy, this does not represent how advanced its performance is. In fact, in the spring of this year, the Kuznetsov was returned to the factory for overhaul, because there were a lot of problems on it, and the Varyag, as its sister ship, certainly did not perform better. We can't deny that.

Fortunately, however, the Varyag was not directly commissioned after it was bought, but was modified according to our own needs. The Waglian may be a failed aircraft carrier, but the Liaoning is definitely not.

Russia's Kuznetsov is already facing retirement, but the Liaoning can serve for another 20 years if it is well maintained, and it has already carried out night take-off and landing missions some time ago, which proves that he has basic combat capabilities.

Aircraft carrier nemesis - the Glorious-class cruiser No. 3 ship "Varyag".

1. The number of carrier-based aircraft is small.

2. Low take-off efficiency (no catapult).

3. There are few types of carrier-based aircraft (only one type of combat and a small number of ***) 4. Lack of regional combat capabilities (limited capabilities of AWACS aircraft).

Comparing the conventionally powered Kitty Hawk and Liaoning in the United States that year, the Varyag is still lagging behind.

The Kitty Hawk has a full load displacement of 80,000 tons, and the Liaoning has a full load displacement of 60,000 tons. The Kitty Hawk had 4 steam catapults, and the Liaoning took off by a sliding jump. The Kitty Hawk has at least 65 F A-18E F carrier-based fighters, and 2 E-2C AWACS aircraft are not counting other *** and auxiliary fighters; The Liaoning has about 50 carrier-based aircraft, including more than 20 fighters, which is mainly enough for training.

First of all, no military ** has ever claimed that the "Varyag" is an "aircraft carrier killer", and the term "aircraft carrier killer" is mostly used in folk news ** to attract attention;

Secondly, the main attack on the ship of the "Varyag" ** is 16 supersonic anti-ship missiles with a range of up to 550 kilometers and equipped with a 1-ton conventional warhead, NATO code SS-N-12 Sandbox, the main purpose of this missile is to hit aircraft carriers, and non-aircraft carrier 10,000-ton warships have no chance of survival once hit by this missile, giving people a powerful feeling, so they are named "aircraft carrier killers";

Similar names such as Russia's "Admiral Ushakov" class nuclear-powered cruiser and O-class cruise missile nuclear submarine also have the reputation of "aircraft carrier killer", and the "modern" class uses "Sandfly" anti-ship missiles to use a new liquid ramjet engine, which was also called "Aegis killer" by the United States when it was introduced to China.

The main task of the cruiser is to escort aircraft carriers and battleships, or to form a maritime mobile formation as the flagship of the formation to attack enemy surface ships, submarines or shore targets.

You can watch the documentary on the mystery of the battleship Yamato. The Yamato hasn't fought much yet, it's sinking. This is World War II, and now the war has not yet been fought, and he said that the cruiser is invincible. Listen to the host, can you believe it?

What does it mean for China to be an aircraft carrier if the cruiser is so powerful, is there nowhere to spend more money??

It's like Scud, if you don't fight, you can say that you are powerful, and some people will believe it. The fight started, and all were intercepted. What's the use. It's not too late to blow it.

Downstairs that's the old Varyag.

Mainly because of the 8-seater twin SS-N -12"Sandbox"Long-range supersonic anti-ship missiles.

China has purchased a total of four aircraft carriers:

1) The first was the USS Melbourne, purchased from Australia in 1985, the aircraft carrier was British-built and now scrapped and dismantled.

2) The second is the "Minsk", which was purchased from South Korea in 1998, which was made in the former Soviet Union and is now parked in Shatoujiao, Shenzhen, for people to visit.

3) The third ship is the "Varyag" purchased from Ukraine in 1998, made in the former Soviet Union, which is a symbol of the Soviet Navy, and now the Dalian shipyard has been renovated, and the equipment and radar facilities have been installed, and it will definitely be launched this year.

4) The fourth ship is the "Kiev" purchased from Ukraine in 2000, made in the former Soviet Union, with great power, and is now parked in Tianjin International Amusement Port for people to visit.

There are also "Minsk" and "Kiev".

However, both aircraft carriers have been converted into military theme parks.

The Minsk Aircraft Carrier Theme Park is located in Shenzhen.

The USS Kiev Aircraft Carrier Theme Park is located in Bagua Beach, Hangu District, Tianjin.

So far, only the Varyag has been reported and officially announced.

A total of 4 ships were bought, Kiev, Minsk, Melbourne and Varyag.

There is also the "Melbourne", which was bought from Australia, which was made in England and dismantled for scrap metal.

Kiev, Minsk, and an Australian one.

But those ships can't stand up to refit anymore.

It's just to buy it to study how to make a hangma.

Build a search in Dalian, and Changxing one.

Haha, yes, but it's in the park. Depressed.