Shu lost Pang Tong, Wu lost Zhou Yu, whose death had the greatest impact?

Obviously, the loss of Pang Tong in Shu had a greater impact. In the Three Kingdoms era at the end of the Han Dynasty, the dynasty was in decline, the world was in dispute, and heroes from all walks of life rose one after another, chasing the Central Plains and chasing fame. The so-called "heroes in troubled times", the Three Kingdoms, has always been a heroic history that all Chinese cannot forget, and a fantasy hometown haunted by dreams.

In the history of the Three Kingdoms, there are stories that can be sung and cried, and of course, there are many "eternal regrets". For example, Cao Cao's Chibi failed to succeed, and Guan Yu Xiangfan's success failed. Shu lost Pang Tong and Wu lost Zhou Yu, both of which were "like a broken arm".

So, for their respective camps, is it the Shu State that lost Pang Tong's greater influence, or the Wu State lost Zhou Yu's greater influence? thinks, apparently the former. Why?

Because of the generations of "metropolitan governors" of Wu State, each of them is a genius in the world, although Zhou Yu is outstanding;

But compared to his successors Lu Su, Lu Meng, and Lu Xun, they are not yet a grade stronger. Moreover, Zhou Yu's own ideas about the pattern of the world are a bit too "hawkish" and quite belligerent. After the Chibi War, because of this, he was repeatedly tricked by Zhuge Liang, and he couldn't afford to get sick.

In terms of talent alone, Zhou Yu may not be much inferior to Zhuge Liang; But he doesn't understand the truth of "concentrating and calming down", he takes the lead, Zhuge Liang sees the move, can Zhou Yuyan be undefeated? If he hadn't died, to be honest, it might not be a good thing for Dongwu and Shu Han to continue fighting. When Lu Su took office, he just acted as a "lubricant".

On the other hand, Pang Tong is the most indispensable "mastermind" level figure of Liu Bei's army. Zhuge Liang is good at governing the country, therefore, Liu Bei repeatedly took Pang Tong with him, and when the two armies were facing each other, Pang Tong was often able to use strange strategies and strategies to defeat the enemy in one sentence.

"Wolong", which can make Shu Han rich and strong and accumulate strong national strength; And the "phoenix chick" is the magic weapon for Liu Bei to truly spread his wings and achieve great things. It's a pity that in the battle of "Luofengpo", Pang Tong fell, and Liu Bei lost the ability to win the world!

Therefore, Pang Tong's death is far more influential than Zhou Yu's death!

Pang Tong and Zhou Yu were both great military strategists and strategists during the Three Kingdoms period, Zhou Yu was the most important governor of Wu State, Zhou Yu lost a national pillar, and after Pang Tong's death, there was Zhuge Liang, so Zhou Yu's death had the greatest impact on Wu State.

Wu Guo's loss is the greatest, not that Zhou Yu is powerful, but that Zhou Yu is too important to Wu Guo.

Zhou Yu. Shu lost Pang Tong and Zhuge Liang, and Wu lost Zhou Yu, and there was no good military division to replace him.

Wei lost Guo Jia, Shu lost Pang Tong, Wu lost Zhou Yu, whose death had the greatest impact on the country?

Before the Battle of Chibi, it was said in the romance that Zhuge Liang fought with a group of Confucian scholars, but Luo Guanzhong talked nonsense. When Cao Cao sent troops to attack Jingzhou, the ** on the Wu side were ready to pack up their things. They were confused by Cao Cao, but no one thought they could stand up to Cao Cao.

Zhou Yu rushed back at the critical moment and said:"We must fight! "。

So they fought, and won the battle. It was Zhou Yu who helped Wu Guo gain a firm foothold.

The deaths of Guo Jia and Pang Tong affected one aspect of the Three Kingdoms at most, while the death of Zhou Yu had a great impact on the overall situation of the Three Kingdoms.

<> Zhou Yu's strategy was to divide the country in two.

He suggested that Liu Bei and Guan Zhang should be separated, that Guan Zhang be managed by himself, and that Liu Bei not be given any land for development. It was a very bad move, but Sun Quan did not agree.

Zhou Yu also advised him to occupy Western Shu first, then annex Hanzhong, and then develop north. Sun Quan agreed, but Zhou Yu fell ill and died before he could leave.

Guo Jia was a tactician, good at winning by surprise, and often came up with some very subtle methods, which suited Cao Cao, who was weak in the north at the time.

He had been Yuan Shao's advisor, but he left because he correctly judged that Yuan Shao could not succeed and that he himself could not be promoted.

Defection to Cao Cao was recommended by Xun Yu in 196 AD. There is such a person who strongly recommends it, which shows that Guo Jia's ability is definitely not small, and it is also suitable for the development of Cao Cao at that time.

At that time, Cao Cao had just returned to Emperor Xian of the Han Dynasty and moved the capital to Xuchang. Cao Cao at that time was by no means powerful. Yuan Shao and Yuan Shu are still in power, and even Lu Bu is still a threat, not to mention Zhang Xiu and Han Sui.

Guo Jia played an important role in this phase, because Cao Cao did not have the upper hand in fair play, so he could only win by surprise, and Guo Jia's wonderful strategy was particularly important.

For example, Cheng Yu suggested that Cao Cao kill Liu Bei, but Cao Cao hesitated. Guo Jia's approach is much better. He suggested that Liu Bei should neither be killed nor released, which was equivalent to putting him under house arrest.

Judging from the historical results, Guo Jia's approach is undoubtedly correct. Unfortunately, Liu Bei escaped through the campaign against Yuan Shu, and Guo Jia happened to be not by Cao Cao's side.

The impact of Zhou Yu's death was even greater, Zhou Yu was a very intelligent man, and his death brought a great loss to the state of Wu at that time.

I think the impact of Zhou Yu's death is even greater, and he can finally be said to be a very powerful general, and he is also very thoughtful in military affairs.

Wei's loss was the greatest, because Guo Jia was a very powerful person, and Guo Jia's intelligence was incomparable to others.

If it weren't for the early death of Sun Ce, Zhou Yu, and Lü Meng, the most likely thing in the Three Kingdoms of Wei, Shu and Wu to unify the world would be the State of Wu, which will be analyzed in detail below.

Sun Ce's strength is indisputable and ranks first. He wiped out Jiangdong with thousands of Yuan Shu troops and established the Eastern Wu ** Society. He was only 26 years old when he died.

When Sun Jian died, Chief Executive Sun was only 17 years old. Since then, Cao Cao has also made the helpless remark that "it is difficult for lions to compete with each other". Youth is capital, and youth is also weakness; Energetic and ambitious are inevitable.

In the first phase of the Guandu War, the only EC was assassinated while preparing for the Northern Expedition, capturing the emperor and crossing the Central Plains. If it weren't for this accident, Yuan Shao and Cao Cao, Cao Cao's Guandu, Wuyi Mountain in the east would all be there, Zhou Yu would still be alive, Yuan Shu would have been destroyed, only Liu Biao would be in the west, and Chief Executive Sun would not be there at all.

The story would have been rewritten. Even if Cao Yuan was facing the attack of Shao and Sun Ce, he would lose his ability. But even then, the ultimate victory may not be the only ec, but the making of wedding dresses for someone else.

Can you imagine how Cao Cao would react to this situation? Cao Cao and Yuan Shaoben were both small and were allied in the first stage. If Cao Cao really felt hopeless, what would he do?

Death or surrender? In my opinion, there is a greater chance of surrender. In the Puyang War, when ammunition and food ran out, Cao Cao prepared to take refuge with Yuan Shao.

However, he was dissuaded by Xun Yu at that time. If he is attacked by Yuan Shao and Sun Ce, and is desperate, he is likely to take refuge in Yuan Shao! At that time, Yuan Shao was the strongest.

If he joins forces with Cao Cao, even if Chief Executive Sun is brave, I fear that he will not be able to win the union of Yuan Shao and Cao Cao. The result may be that Yuan Shao has become bigger, and then has a unified power!

If it weren't for Pangu's "open world", if it wasn't for Jiang Ziya's "battle with Xiang Yu", if it wasn't for controlling Dayu's control of the water, if it wasn't for winning ** and "unifying the six countries", if it wasn't for Liu Bang and Xiang Yu's "battle under the ridge", would China's history be rewritten?! Unfortunately, this is a question of "what ifs" and assumptions, and the development of history is not transferred from people's desires. It is difficult for anyone to come up with the following assumptions.

Before the Battle of Chibi, this was quite possible.

It is very likely that because the three of them can provide great help to the Wu State, and can directly improve the military strength and political power of our country, it is very likely that the Wu State will rule the world.

I think it's very likely to be Wu Guo, because Sun Ce, Zhou Yu, and Lu Meng are indeed relatively talented generals, and if they are still there, they won't let Wu Guo die early.

Yes, this is all creation and making people, if the three of them did not die, then the first to unify the world was the Wu Kingdom.

Summary. Liu Bei's army division is a lieutenant general. Unified name Feng Xiao, as famous as Zhuge Liang.

In the Battle of Chibi, he avoided the chaos in Jiangdong, recommended Yu Yu to Zhou Yu for Lu Su, and offered a series of plans to enter the Cao camp to help Yu defeat the fire attack. Yu pawn, Liang to hang filial piety, because of the unity. Shi Su also recommends the unification, because the unification is ugly, and the grandson is slow, so he doesn't need it.

He went to Jingzhou to invest in the first master, and the first master was also appointed as the Leiyang Order because of his light appearance. When the commander arrived, he ignored political affairs, and the first lord angrily sent Zhang Fei to take responsibility, and he flew to know the commander, and then worshiped the commander as the deputy military division and lieutenant general, and praised the strategy with Liang and coached the sergeants. Later, the commander followed the ancestor to take Shu, designed to kill Yang Huai and Gao Pei, and got Fushui Pass.

Attacking the city, because of suspicion that Liang wanted to fight for merit, he did not dissuade him from Liangshu, and entered Luofengpo, where Zhang Ren ambushed and was killed by random arrows.

Pang Tong or Zhou Yu who died first.

Liu Bei's army division is a lieutenant general. Unified name Feng Xiao, as famous as Zhuge Liang. In the Battle of Chibi, he avoided the chaos in Jiangdong, recommended Yu Yu to Zhou Yu for Lu Su, and offered a series of plans to enter the Cao camp to help Yu defeat the fire attack.

Yu pawn, Liang to hang filial piety, because of the unity. Shi Su also recommends the unification, because the unification is ugly, and the grandson is slow, so he doesn't need it. He went to Jingzhou to invest in the first master, and the first master was also appointed as the Leiyang Order because of his light appearance.

When the commander arrived, he ignored political affairs, and the first lord angrily sent Zhang Fei to take responsibility, and he flew to know the commander, and then worshiped the commander as the deputy military division and lieutenant general, and praised the strategy with Liang and coached the sergeants. Later, the commander followed the ancestor to take Shu, designed to kill Yang Huai and Gao Pei, and got Fushui Pass. Attacking the city, because of suspicion that Liang wanted to fight for merit, he did not dissuade him from Liangshu, and entered Luofengpo, where Zhang Ren ambushed and was killed by random arrows.

It was Pang Tong who died first.

If you want to look at the impact on the country, then the loss of Zhou Yu by Eastern Wu is naturally far more serious than the loss of Pang Tong by Shu Han. Zhou Yu was originally a civil and military all-rounder, and Zhou Yu was the pillar of Eastern Wu at that time, so the loss of Zhou Yu in Eastern Wu was undoubtedly the loss of a backbone, and although Pang Tong was very talented, he was just a strategist, even without him, there were other excellent strategists in Shu Han, so the impact of Pang Tong's death on Shu Han was not very great.

First of all, let's talk about Zhou Yu, Zhou Yu's status in Eastern Wu can be said to be close to Sun Quan, because Eastern Wu was originally fought by Zhou Yu and Sun Ce, and Zhou Yu was Sun Ce's good brother, and he was responsible for assisting Sun Quan after Sun Ce's death, so Sun Quan also respected Zhou Yu, the governor, very much. Zhou Yu not only has the ability to coordinate the affairs of the court, but also is unambiguous in the military, it can be said that Zhou Yu's status in Eastern Wu at that time was almost the status of Zhuge Liang in Shu Han in the later period, so after Zhou Yu's death, no one in Eastern Wu could replace Zhou Yu, so Zhou Yu's death was a huge loss for Eastern Wu.

Secondly, let's talk about Pang Tong, there is no doubt that Pang Tong is a very good military advisor, and there is a legend that "Wolong and Phoenix Chicks can settle the world alone", which shows that Pang Tong's talent is at least comparable to Zhuge Liang. But Shu Han has never been short of military advisors, not to mention Zhuge Liang, a military advisor with outstanding ability, even Jiang Wan, Fei Yi and others are also very strategic military advisors, so the existence of Pang Tong is just the icing on the cake, and it has not made Liu Bei's strength make a qualitative leap, so although Shu Han's loss of Pang Tong is also a huge loss, in general, it will not shake the overall strength of Shu Han.

To sum up, after the Eastern Wu lost Zhou Yu, the strength of the entire Eastern Wu was affected, and after Shu Han lost Pang Tong, it was only Liu Bei who lost an excellent military advisor, and the burden of Zhuge Liang and others became heavier, so Pang Tong's death was far less affected than Zhou Yu's death.

God is jealous of talents, Cao Cao lost Guo Jia, Liu Bei lost Pang Tong, Sun Quan lost Zhou Yu, which of the three died the most regrettably, and had the greatest impact on the Three Kingdoms?

Zhou Yu's death had a greater impact on the country. Because Pang Tong died, Shu Han still had Zhuge Liang to support, and Zhou Yu died, Dongwu lost its biggest think tank, and there was no one to replace it, and the impact was greater.

Eastern Wu lost Zhou Yu's great influence, Zhou Yu can be said to be Wu's most outstanding soldier, leading the army can change the direction of the war, and Shu, although Pang Tong and Zhuge Liang are equally famous, but the later conquest has no impact on Liu Bei

Pang Tong's death had a greater impact on the country. Pang Tong is second only to Zhuge Liang's strategist, Liu Bei's right-hand man, once he dies, Liu Bei is equivalent to missing an arm.

Of course it was Zhou Yu, although Pang Tong's death was a pity, but at that time Shu Han still had Zhuge Liang, but Zhou Yu was the capital of Eastern Wu, and the loss of Zhou Yu in Eastern Wu had a relatively large impact.

Pang Tong served as Zhou Yu's confidential secretary, and the influence of the two is self-evident.

Zhou Yu's death had the greatest impact, Shu lost Pang Tong and Zhuge Liang, and Eastern Wu lost Zhou Yu, and no one could replace him.

It should be that Dongwu lost Zhou Yu and was bigger. Here's why:

1.Soochow has only one replacement for Zhou Yu, and he debuted very late, which has a great impact on the general trend. This person is Lu Xun, Lu Xun's contribution to the tomb is no less than Zhou Yu's merit of Chibi, so Sun Quan has the evaluation of "Gong Jin Xionglian, then breaking Mengde, Miao Yan is difficult to continue, and Jun is now succeeding".

Relatively speaking, the level of Zhuge Liang and Fa Zheng is similar to Pang Tong, and they both debuted earlier, which has a greater effect on the overall situation.

2.In addition to his ability, Zhou Yu also has the status of a high-ranking scholar. His uncles, grandfathers and uncles were all three dukes, which is similar to Wang Cang, so the family has a great reputation, which Lu Xun, Zhuge Liang, Fa Zheng, and Pang Tong can't compare.