Which is better, Donglin Party or Eunuch Party? In the Ming Dynasty, who contributed the most to the

Updated on history 2024-02-16
30 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-06

    None of them are good. It's all for their own benefit.

    If you want to compare, the eunuch party is better.

    Because no matter how evil the eunuch party is, it is loyal to the emperor and the Ming Dynasty, even if it is a scourge, there is a limit.

    **There is a strong Donglin Party, and the scourge will affect the entire Ming Dynasty.

    Military, economic, diplomatic, ** all have the scourge of the Donglin Party.

    When the Southern Ming Dynasty was destroyed, the Donglin Party knelt at the gate of the city to welcome the Manchu Qing, but the Eunuch Party did not.

    The Donglin Party is only loyal to its own interests, and as long as it endangers its own interests, even the emperor will be killed.

    Both Tianqi and Zhengde died after falling into the water, how could there be such a coincidence.

    It's not just the poisonous hands of these civilian officials.

    And the reason why the eunuch party has a bad reputation is because the history is written by the Donglin Party, and then caters to the taste of the Manchu Qing Dynasty.

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-05

    Donglin Party: The party rivalry of the Donglin Party hastened the demise of the Ming Dynasty, and they encouraged officials and merchants not to pay business taxes, which made the Ming economy worse. The merchants of the Ming Dynasty were mercenary and colluded with them.

    In particular, the Jin merchants, who carried out the transportation of iron, gunpowder and other materials in the Jurchens, sold them to the Ming Dynasty. It can be said that a group of sour and mercenary businessmen have taken the position of the leader of the Donglin Party.

    Eunuch party: Let's not talk about eunuchs, exclude dissidents, and make the country into a miasma. Therefore, they joined forces to send the Han people of the Ming Dynasty to the Manchu people who turned back history. So there was the later Opium War and the First Sino-Japanese War that did not forget the national shame!

    Summary: The words "Donglin rebel party" and "eunuch in power" are the best explanations. In the context of that time, it can only be said that the dynasty forgot about the party struggle, because the struggle between the Donglin Party and the other three parties was very chaotic in the government, and when the Donglin Party became bigger, it also played a positive role, but this only delayed the demise of the Ming Dynasty.

    If you want to say that it caused the demise of the Ming Dynasty, not to mention Li Rusong, it was he who single-handedly supported Nurhachi. And the eunuch Wei Zhongxian, this person can only say that everything is bad, and nothing is good.

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-04

    I think that in the Ming Dynasty, the greatest contribution to the country was the eunuch party.

    When talking about the reasons for the fall of the Ming Dynasty, many people will mention the word party struggle, because the fierce struggle between the eunuch party and the Donglin party has affected the survival and development of the Ming Dynasty. Although both the Eunuch Party and the Donglin Party have brought great harm to the people, in terms of national contribution, the contribution made by the Eunuch Party is also significantly higher than that of the Donglin Party.

    In the late stage of the Ming Dynasty, the imperial power was gradually elevated by the cabinet group, and the monarch of the Ming Dynasty actively supported the eunuch party composed of eunuchs in order to confront the cabinet groupTherefore, even if the eunuch party does more outrageous things, the eunuch party is also very valuable for the maintenance of imperial power, so during the Ming Dynasty, the group that contributed the most to the country should be the eunuch party. <>

    Although the eunuchs were vigorously criticized in the literati group formed by the Donglin Party, in the actual process, the evil deeds done by the Donglin Party were not inferior to those of the eunuchs. You must know that in order to make profits for themselves, the Donglin Party constantly impacts the foundation of the Ming Dynasty, so in the end, the foundation of the Ming Dynasty will become rotten, and although the eunuch party has also done a lot of evil things, the ultimate purpose of the eunuch party is not to make profits for themselves. <>

    The struggle between the Donglin Party and the Eunuch Party seems to be a contradiction between the two factions, but in fact, it is an open and covert struggle between the two major interest groups, the Donglin Party represents the interests of the landlord class, while the Eunuch Party represents the interests of the ruling classSo at a certain level, what the Eunuch Party did was obviously more meaningful than the Donglin Party, because the Donglin Party would not have chosen to serve the national interests in the first place, so the things and contributions of the Donglin Party were not comparable to the Eunuch Party at all. <>

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-03

    I think it was the Donglin Party that contributed the most, because he helped the emperor stabilize his position, pacify the Central Plains, and crusade against the Xiongnu.

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-02

    I think the contribution of the Donglin Party to the country is the greatest, because the strength of the Donglin Party was very strong at that time, and it also helped some social development at that time.

  6. Anonymous users2024-02-01

    I think that the eunuchs contributed more to the country, and they also did many beneficial things in the imperial court, promoted the development of the law, and brought about a series of changes.

  7. Anonymous users2024-01-31

    There is no way to compare, different forces exist, and they all have the meaning of existence, all for the balance of power in the imperial court.

  8. Anonymous users2024-01-30

    Before Emperor Chongzhen of the Ming Dynasty ascended the throne, his elder brother told him to reuse Wei Zhongxian, but he believed that Wei Zhongxian's power led to the rampant eunuch party and made the Ming Dynasty go into decline, so after he ascended the throne, he no longer reused Wei Zhongxian, and cracked down on the eunuch party, promoted the Donglin party, and made the Donglin party dominant. Later, in the late Chongzhen period, Li Zicheng invaded Beijing, and Emperor Chongzhen hanged himself. So was the Ming Dynasty destroyed by the Donglin Party or the Eunuch Party?

    Personally, I think that the Ming Dynasty was destroyed by the Donglin Party, and the Chongzhen Dynasty Eunuch Party has disappeared, they did not let the Ming Dynasty prosper, and the Donglin Party canceled the commercial tax after taking power, so that the Ming tax revenue was reduced, and it was impossible to cope with military expenses, and many people in the Donglin Party surrendered to the Qing Dynasty, and they valued personal interests more than national interests.

  9. Anonymous users2024-01-29

    It was mainly ruined in the hands of the eunuchs, because they emptied the rights of the emperor and grasped the political rights of the imperial court, and began to act arbitrarily and do whatever they wanted, making the people of the world miserable and complaining.

  10. Anonymous users2024-01-28

    Both. The eunuch party was in power, and the court was rotten. The Donglin clan sells their fame and reputation, and they are proud of their achievements, lying on the merit book and waiting for death to achieve nothing.

  11. Anonymous users2024-01-27

    The Ming Dynasty was not simply destroyed by any one party, there are many reasons, and the transformation of a dynasty from prosperity to decline is itself a historical law.

  12. Anonymous users2024-01-26

    Historically, during the Ming Dynasty, it must have been the eunuchs. Because at that time they controlled the government, which led to mediocrity and incompetence, corruption of the court, and weakness of the country.

  13. Anonymous users2024-01-25

    What do I think of this thing in this history, I think everyone looks at that thing, and the view is still better.

  14. Anonymous users2024-01-24

    I think only one person has a great impact on this matter? Which one is very unclear? Historically, every mission has been very much done.

  15. Anonymous users2024-01-23

    At least the Donglin Party is still thinking about the country. The eunuchs are different, they are more harmful, and their personality is flawed, so they have always misled the country.

  16. Anonymous users2024-01-22

    Because the Donglin Party interferes in politics, the Donglin Party misunderstands the country.

  17. Anonymous users2024-01-21

    The eunuch party is even more misleading the country, the Donglin party is only temporary, and the eunuch party can be said to have affected the entire Ming Dynasty.

  18. Anonymous users2024-01-20

    How do I see it, I think I personally on this issue from many sides.

  19. Anonymous users2024-01-19

    I think it's still the Donglin Party, and the Donglin Party will only fight for the party, and it doesn't do any facts.

  20. Anonymous users2024-01-18

    The Donglin Party does not necessarily represent the righteous side, and the Eunuch Party may not be useless. Even I think that the Donglin Party bears greater responsibility for the demise of the Ming Dynasty than the Eunuch Party.

    The eunuch party is a political force that defects to the eunuch leader Wei Zhongxian, but not all of them are composed of eunuchs. During the period when Wei Zhongxian was in power, Wei Zhongxian could be said to be thinking about helping the emperor make money, of course, he could also get a lot of benefits himself. However, the use of these mine supervisors and tax envoys, through the collection of commercial taxes and overseas ** taxes on the wealthy, made the finances of the Ming Dynasty improve during the Apocalypse.

    We don't care what Wei Zhongxian's original intention was, but judging from the results, his policies have indeed worked and have not increased the burden on the peasants, which is an extremely crucial point.

    After having money, the army of the Ming Dynasty also had combat effectiveness. In the war against the Manchu Qing Dynasty, due to the guarantee of military salaries and the appointment of a number of capable generals, the Ming army began to become able to fight. In the battle with the Manchus, the Ming army's victory rate began to increase.

    And when the Donglin Party came to power, they abandoned all these policies as soon as they competed with the people for profit. After the lack of such a large piece of income, the Ming Dynasty ** once again became a state of making ends meet. The pressure on the big landlords and big businessmen was suddenly lightened, and they became the biggest winners of the Donglin Party's rule.

    In fact, this is very understandable, just like Trump's military industry has skyrocketed, and behind Trump is these military enterprises. And behind the Donglin Party members, there are these rich gentry in the south of the Yangtze River, and after the Donglin Party came to power, they naturally reciprocated the favor.

    It's a pity that they have done this, and they have suffered the people, because the country has no money, but the country still has to fight, so it can only reach out to the people and increase taxes. In this way, the small people of Shengdou, who could still survive, could no longer fool around, so they could only take risks and become a member of the rebel army.

    It can be said that the Donglin Party is the hardcore allies of Li Zicheng and Zhang Xianzhong, the bigwigs of the rebel army, without their help, these rebel armies would have been wiped out 25 times by the ** army of the Ming Dynasty.

    The reason why they were able to rise rapidly after every defeat was precisely because of the good policies of the Donglin Party that more and more ordinary people could not survive and had to join the ranks of the rebel army. Therefore, Li Zicheng should award a big medal to the Donglin Party, and the so-called meritorious medal has half of mine and half of yours.

    It should be said that the Donglin Party is a very good opposition party, and with their existence, the ruling eunuch party does not dare to be too presumptuous, and it can make the country advance on the right track and avoid retrograde and other situations.

  21. Anonymous users2024-01-17

    As far as the eunuchs and the Donglin party are concerned, I don't think they are good people. But if you want to say which one is more harmful to the country, I think it should be the Donglin Party, and the fall of the Ming Dynasty also has a lot to do with the Donglin Party.

    Although the eunuchs are a cancer of the imperial court, they will work hard to take care of the country for the king for their own interests. The Donglin Party seems to be thinking about the people, but in fact they still focus on their own interests.

    Eunuch interference in politics is disgusted by all kings, and it is precisely because of this that after Emperor Chongzhen ascended the throne, he eradicated the eunuch forces led by Wei Zhongxian by thunderous means, but did this really save the Ming Dynasty, wrong, the consequences of this only exacerbated the demise of the Ming Dynasty. Emperor Chongzhen thought that if the eunuch party was eradicated, the Donglin party would be able to serve himself wholeheartedly, but he didn't know that the eunuch party was a blatant villain, and the Donglin party people were hypocrites. At this time, the Donglin Party members were all utopians, and it can be said that the fall of the Ming Dynasty had a lot to do with the Donglin Party members.

  22. Anonymous users2024-01-16

    During the reign of the eunuchs, they were able to receive commercial taxes, and they were exempted from agricultural taxes several times, but during the reign of the Donglin Party, no other taxes could be collected except agricultural taxes. The Donglin Party will only talk on paper and do not do practical things, while the Eunuch Party is all villains, who like to cling to the powerful, everyone is talented, but morally corrupt. It can be said that the eunuchs of the letter died in the country, and the people of the letter and literati died in the world.

    Neither of them is a good person, but if you want to say who is more harmful, I think it is still the Donglin Party, and the fall of the Ming Dynasty is also related to the Donglin Party.

  23. Anonymous users2024-01-15

    The eunuch party is more harmful to the country, because since ancient times, the eunuch dictatorship has done whatever he wants, without a sense of the overall situation, and has a great influence on the imperial court.

  24. Anonymous users2024-01-14

    The Donglin Party was even more harmful because their actions greatly shook the foundations of the imperial court.

  25. Anonymous users2024-01-13

    First of all, it is necessary to confirm that neither the Donglin Party nor the Eunuch Party are good things. First of all, the eunuchs of the eunuch party must be completely dependent on the imperial power in order to make a difference, and the simple point is that the eunuch party is an extension of the imperial power, and the eunuch party is nothing without the support of the imperial power. But the Donglin Party is different, they form an alliance with the gentry and merchants, collect land and occupy all violent industries, and the most important thing is that they still don't pay taxes, so it can be said that the harm of the eunuch party is nothing in front of the Donglin Party.

  26. Anonymous users2024-01-12

    The Donglin Party is more harmful to the country, and the Eunuch Party at least thinks about the country, but the Donglin Party does not think about the country at all.

  27. Anonymous users2024-01-11

    One knows that he is not good, and sometimes he is a little more restrained! The other thinks that he is born right, never taboos, and is complacent when he does something wrong! You can see who I'm talking about no.

  28. Anonymous users2024-01-10

    Only some garbage thinks that the eunuchs of the Ming Dynasty are harmful, is Wei Zhongxian a bad person? Why did Wei Zhongxian still set up an ancestral hall for him when he was alive? After his death, how can others slander him, if Wei Zhongxian really did a lot of evil, then how can Emperor Chongzhen convict him?

    It's just that he offended interest groups! Whether it is Dongchang or Jinyiwei, it is just a tool for the emperor to supervise the world! And Emperor Chongzhen abolished these tools, and the fire was immediately extinguished!!

  29. Anonymous users2024-01-09

    After Wei killed all the people who could do Donglin, there was no one to do anything, which was the reason for the death of the Ming Dynasty

  30. Anonymous users2024-01-08

    I think the Donglin Party should bear the main responsibility, after Chongzhen reused the Donglin Party, the Donglin Party canceled various taxes such as overseas ** tax and tea tax, and the imperial court could not make ends meet and had no money to fight, so the Ming Dynasty went to the end faster. The Donglin Party members were actually Jiangnan scholars, and behind them stood the big landlords and big businessmen, who would certainly try their best to benefit their own class and transfer all the pressure to the poor people.

    Although the eunuch party is bad, it is also usefulThe eunuch party is the eunuch group represented by Wei Zhongxian, although they have done a lot of evil things and caused chaos to the dynasty, but they still have a certain contribution to the country. When Wei Zhongxian was in power, he was always trying to help the imperial court expand the treasury, although he also made money from it, but he also helped the imperial court become rich. Moreover, the money was collected from the rich landlords and big bosses, and there was no exploitation of the poor people, ensuring that the people would not rebel.

    Wei Zhongxian collected a lot of money for the imperial court by collecting taxes, and with this money, the imperial court also had the ability to fight. In the face of the invasion of the Manchu Qing Dynasty, the Ming army will never be defeated and retreat again, and this money is confidence. However, all this changed after the Donglin Party came to power, in order to protect its own interests, the Donglin Party abolished overseas taxes, salt water and other taxes, which is the main revenue of the Ming Dynasty, without this money, what will the imperial court use to fight?

    The imperial court could only collect taxes from the common people, and many ordinary people could not eat, and how to pay taxes, so they could only revolt, so the Ming Dynasty had a situation of internal and external troubles.

    The Donglin Party is just a bunch of sanctimonious hypocritesThe Donglin Party did not do anything useful for the Ming Dynasty, neither could lead troops to fight, nor could it put forward any constructive opinions for the country. Chongzhen wanted these people to donate money to the country, but these people were crying poor. However, in fact, these people were the richest people in the last years of the Ming Dynasty, and after Li Zicheng entered the capital, they wanted to exchange money for their lives, and they were all killed by Li Zicheng in the end.

    It is said that the eunuch party is bad, but Ma Shiying was able to actively resist the Qing Dynasty after the fall of the Ming Dynasty, and finally died in the country. And Qian Qianyi, a member of the Donglin Party, was afraid of being frozen by water and did not dare to be martyred, which is really shameful.

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