How should the Germans fight the Battle of Kursk, please enter 30 with military talent

The German army was troubled by two qualitative mistakes in the Eastern Front campaign, one was that in the early stage of the war, Army Group North should be strengthened, and superior forces should be concentrated to take Leningrad at any cost, so as to avoid the disadvantage of winter combat supply to the greatest extent, after all, the supply advantage of sea route is obvious; Secondly, in the medium term, Army Group South should be strengthened, attacking Ukraine and the Tyumen region, cutting off important supplies to the Soviet Union, not Moscow, the Battle of Kurtsk is actually Manshuai preparing to launch a major war of annihilation in a short period of time after the loss of Army Group **, annihilating a large number of living forces of the Soviet Union, and restoring the overall situation to a balanced state; This plan is strange, strange in the state of confidence of the Soviet army; Another is fast, fast in the short term when the other side has made a move but has not left a backhand, but this plan has been delayed again and again, until October, the German army is fully prepared, but the Soviet army, more comprehensive preparations, the war theory has said, waiting will not necessarily be exchanged for a favorable result, waiting is just hoping to get a self-righteous state of parity, Man Shuai is not unaware, but Le Ge estimates that he can't afford to lose.

Forget it, it's very difficult to fight now, it's all petty fighting.

Besides, in the tank battle on the main battlefield of Kursksooth, Germany did not lose?! The defeat of the German Kursk that you are talking about is that Lao Xi has no confidence to fight.

Don't look at other information, just look at this.

There were only 221 tanks that could move during the battle of the German Kursk tank, and only they participated in the battle, not 700 in the history books, and there were more than 150 No. 3 and No. 4 tanks in the 221 tanks, they were a little powerless for tank warfare, after all, they mostly supported the infantry, and the rest of the tanks had some Tiger Leopard and the most self-propelled guns. The Soviet side used more than 1,200 tanks, 60% of which were T34s, and the rest were miscellaneous light tanks, after the war, Germany lost about 60 tanks, and about 200 Soviet tanks were destroyed, and 650 needed to be pulled to the rear for repair. God forbid, God knows how the USSR fought.

There is hope for the Soviets not to see it beforehand.

The historical fact is that the Soviet army deduced the direction of the German offensive based on the movement of the German army as early as 2 months ago--- Zhukov's battlefield intuition was really not covered.

Three hours before the German attack, the Soviet army launched artillery strikes on the German attacking troops, and the German army crashed headlong into the well-prepared defense line of the Soviet army.

The timing of the attack on the Soviet Union is not right, if a big country is united and there is no internal rift, it is difficult to be conquered, even if Germany conquers the Soviet Union, it is impossible to hold it, even if the German army wins the Kursk, it will let the elite troops of the German army fall into this muddy pond and be slowly consumed, Hitler is completely right to stop Kursk, and when the war is a foregone conclusion, it is wrong to let the main forces do unnecessary attrition, the political situation at that time decided that it was a matter of time before the Nazis perished, and Hitler himself understood this, whether the Battle of Kursk is won or lost, the ultimate fate of Germany is defeat!

There is no way, the battle line is too long, with the strength of one country, the enemy is almost the whole of Europe and the United States, even if your Germanic nation is strong, it will be difficult. We should first pacify France and then deal with those countries that the old United States and Britain do not pay attention to, and then cultivate themselves, deprive these countries of their resources, and then fight Britain, not to provoke the old United States, if the old United States comes to do it, it would be best to be able to unite with the Soviet Union.

Then I went to the Soviet Union, and then I could unite with the United States to engage in the Soviet Union, finish the Soviet Union, and engage in a cold war with the United States. Uniting Japan is the most stupid way to do it, and there is no way to make money.

The German blitzkrieg did not work, and special infiltration should be used, the Russian army should be disguised, and after destroying the anti-aircraft artillery fire, the aircraft should be bombed to cover the army's long drive.

Don't open two fronts at the same time, and the Soviet Union can only rely on encroachment, not whale swallowing, his severe cold is too terrible, Napoleon is a good example, you can even occupy Central Asia first, form an encirclement trend, the main premise is still not to open the east and west fronts.

Use the spy to clean up the inside spies, such as: Phoebir. Take advantage of a variety of advantages.

A battle can be won by relying on excellent generals, but the success or failure of a war depends on the overall strength of a country.

Because the Soviet army is a fighting nation, they are very powerful, and they are very persevering, and they have a heart that does not admit defeat, so they can defeat Germany.

The main reason is that in this World War II battle, the strength of the Soviet army in all aspects was also very strong, and the ideas at that time had already influenced many soldiers, and the influence of this thought was very positive.

I think it's mainly because the Soviet military is relatively strong, and at the same time, the German military leaders also have the problem of improper command.

1. In Manstein's vision, the Battle of Kursk would begin in early May, and it was the constant delay of Lao Xi that prepared the Soviet army for the campaign, which led to the final defeat of the campaign;

2. During the critical period of the battle (interesting "critical period"), Lao Xi transferred the 2nd SS Panzer Corps, the most elite of Army Group South, which caused Manstein to fall short due to insufficient troops and weak attack;

3. This is the most bizarre point of view, those who hold this point of view believe that the losses of the German army in the Battle of Kursk are much smaller than those of the Soviet army, so the real winner of the Battle of Kursk is the German army, and the only reason why the German army is "undefeated and defeated" is - "history is written by the victors"!

Because the German Tiger tank at that time was already very slow due to its heavy armor, its mobility was far less than that of the Soviet T-34 medium tank. So the final battle turned into a pack of wolves fighting tigers, and the Soviets seized on this weakness of the Tiger tank to win.

Although Germany's equipment is very sophisticated, the war can be won not only by equipment, but also by strategy, and the German army will lose.

Tactically, in fact, the German army won, and the Soviet army ** was several times larger than the German army. However, the German army lost strategically, and was forced to drag from the war of annihilation, which the German army was good at, to a war of attrition, which the German army could not afford.

In the Battle of Kursk, the German army was still the same German army, only new tanks were added, and the Soviet army was no longer the Soviet army at the beginning of the war, and the Soviet high command accurately judged the German army's campaign intentions and made a lot of preparations in advance, so that the German offensive completely lost its suddenness.

Had it not been for Patton's landing in Sicily, the Soviets would have been forced to fight a battle for the defense of Moscow. Manstein had already broken through all Soviet defenses. At the final moment, a full 3 tank divisions were withdrawn.

It has to be said that Ferdinand, who was considered inferior, did a hundredfold damage to the Soviets.

There were major mistakes in the German conception of the battle in the Battle of Kursk, and at the same time, the commander's subjective consciousness seriously underestimated the enemy.

Because the German heavy Tiger tank was too inflexible, its mobility was far inferior to that of the Soviet T-34 medium tank, and it was often only beaten on the battlefield.

Although on the surface it appeared that the Germans were the more promising side, in reality the German rout was reasonable, and the Germans were flawed.

If Britain and the United States were allies of Germany, and Japan and Italy were allies of the Soviet Union, do you think Germany would have won the Battle of Kursk?

The purpose of Kursk was to weaken the frontal enemy, in fact, the strategic goal of the German army had been achieved, Stalin threatened the allies to open a second front or negotiate, so the American troops landed in Sicily.

The German heavy ** marched too slowly, and was not as agile as the Soviet medium tanks, so it was seized by the USSR on its weakness.

Although Germany had a heavy ** at that time, in fact, the war was not so simple, and it was not possible to decide the outcome by relying on the strength or weakness alone.

In fact, Germany won the war, but it was only when the Allied forces landed in Normandy and opened up the Western Front that Germany took the initiative to withdraw.

They have already broken through the last line of defense of the Soviet army, and it is not the most critical time, so send elite troops to rescue pig teammate Italy!

Because the Soviet Union received a steady stream of American aid, Germany received an endless stream of American bombing.

Soviet tanks T34 were thousands a month, and Germany had 900 a year, and their performance was not as good as T34 for real combat.

Because they didn't blow as badly, they couldn't win a dozen or two, let alone a dozen or three.

Manstein, due to his lack of adaptability, did not know how to change the plan in time when he knew that the combat intention had been completely exposed, or stepped into the trap of the Soviet army according to the original plan. Manstein commanded a small group of troops to fight with great success, but once he commanded a large corps to fight, he was confused.

The participation of the Tiger tank in the war deprived the German army of the ability to fight in mobile combat, and the Tiger was only suitable for fixed-point defense, and it was difficult to adapt to even mobile defense, let alone mobile attack. The firepower and mobility of the Tiger and the IS2 armor are similar, but the IS2 is disliked by the Soviet army, while the Tiger is regarded as an artifact by Germany, and the difference can be imagined.

At that time, the German army was not equipped to annihilate the Soviet army group.

If you look only at the losses, Germany is not defeated. Looking at the purpose of the campaign, Germany was defeated.

It's not a failure, it's a strategic transformation.

The USSR had a strong strategic reserve.

It's just that a good tiger can't stand a pack of wolves.

At the end of the strong crossbow, you can't enter Lu Min.

The wind is declining, and it can't raise feathers.

The Germans are out of gas, the Germans are out of gas.

The truth that tigers are hard to defeat wolves.

It's like you have 1,000 tanks and 4,000 people, and if you don't die this time, you lose, and next time you can continue to scare you with this amount. This is where the British and American materials are awesome, and the Soviet Union only needs to produce vigorously.

The Germans won every day, won every battle, and then lost the battle? ～

No, with the strength of Germany at that time, under the condition that the number of troops and technical equipment was at a disadvantage, and when the intelligence was leaked, it was undoubtedly a fool's dream to take the initiative to attack the fortified area that Mao Zi had prepared for a long time.

At that time, the only hope of the Germans was that Maozi would attack first, and on the front of the ** Army Group, Kruger, a master of defense, had already built a continuous defensive position, and if Maozi took the initiative to attack, he would definitely not be able to gnaw them.

And on the southern front, if Maozi takes the initiative to attack, Manstein will just give full play to his expertise in mobile warfare and perform another Kharkov miracle.

It is a pity that the rash attack, and it was a storm, but the artillery and aviation could not destroy Maozi's defense, and could only throw tank troops prematurely, which led to early exhaustion in the north and turned to the defense.

Although the southern front was full of six outfits and enough to choke, it was a pity that the sustained strength was insufficient, and the Allied troops had to be dispatched to the rescue because of the landing of the Allied forces in Italy.

Only tactical victories can be obtained.

The biggest loss in the Battle of Kursk was the exhaustion of Germany's elite mobile forces, looking at the many major battles on the Eastern Front in the future, Germany's elite fought less and less, resulting in worse and worse combat effectiveness in the later period.

The Battle of Kursk was a major blow to the morale of the German army and the commander-in-chief, before which the Wehrmacht had never failed at the range of a tactical assault, all defeats occurred 200 kilometers from the point of departure, and mostly in the cold winter. The Battle of Kursk completely ended the myth that "the Soviets attacked in winter, and the Germans attacked in summer", which led to the collapse of German morale; In this battle, more than 200,000 German troops were destroyed, and more than 1,000 tanks and self-propelled guns were destroyed, and the new "Tiger-1", "Panther" tanks and "Ferdinand" self-propelled guns failed to save the tide of the war despite their large-scale participation in the battle, and they themselves also suffered huge losses, which dealt a heavy blow to the morale of the elite armored units of the German army.

The Battle of Kurbaisk was only the last attempt by the Germans to save the tide of the war.

After the Battle of Moscow and the Battle of Stalingrad, the number and equipment of the Soviet army began to surpass the German army, and with the help of the allies, there were also a large number of partisans in the rear of Germany, even if they won the battle of Britain, the United States, France and other countries, they would have to land in Normandy, and Germany itself was seriously damaged, and it was difficult to launch a full-scale attack on the Soviet Union, and the defeat of the German army after the defeat of Moscow and Stalingrad was decided.

Laying a solid foundation for the victory of the USSR, the next step is the battle in Ukraine.

It was impossible at that time, the Soviet army was twice as numerous as the German army, and besides, this active campaign was launched on the side of the Soviet army, and the German army had no advantage!

The defeat of the German army in Kursk is irreversible, the command error, the will to fight, the number of equipment, and the degree of familiarity with the territory are all at a disadvantage, so the probability of success is extremely low, even if it succeeds, it will be greatly damaged, and then look at the Russian army's equipment and high morale, the time and place are favorable, the family has a monthly output of 1,000 tanks, and the soldiers are continuous, so even if it fails, it doesn't matter. What's more, the Russian army is winning one after another, and the German army is losing and retreating, and it has long been impossible to talk about the same day.

It is difficult to exchange a tactical victory for a strategic victory, because after all, the war is fought with comprehensive national strength, and the gap between the two sides is too great.

I think the main reason for the defeat of the Germans in this war was that their military strength was slowly weakening at that time; The main reason for the defeat is that they have been defeated step by step in this war epidemic, losing the initiative on the battlefield, and they do not have enough troops to support such a large-scale war.