In history, Sun Jian did not defeat Lu Bu

Sun Jian defeated Lu Bu.

When Sun Jian's troops entered Luo, Dong Zhuo personally led his troops to engage Sun Jian, but was severely damaged by Sun Jian, he left Lu Bu to cover, and he turned to defend Mianchi and Shaancheng.

Sun Jian waved his troops, attacked Luoyang, and engaged Lü Bu, Lü Bu was finally defeated and left, and Sun Jian's army entered Luoyang.

Sun Jian (155-192), a native of Fuchun, Wu County (now Fuyang District, Hangzhou, Zhejiang), was a native of Wentai, Han nationality. A general and warlord in the late Eastern Han Dynasty, and the founder of the Wu State in the Three Kingdoms. It is rumored to be a descendant of Sun Wu, a military strategist in the Spring and Autumn Period.

History books say that he was "extraordinary-looking, broad-minded, and curious". He participated in the campaign against the Yellow Turban Army and the campaign against Dong Zhuo. Later, he was killed in battle with Liu Biao.

Because of the official to the general, also known as "Sun Poyu". His son Sun Quan was the founding emperor of Sun Wu. After Sun Quan was called emperor, he posthumously called Sun Jian the emperor of Wulie, the ancestor of the temple number.

1. Historically, Sun Jianjun was the vanguard of the crusade against Dong Zhuo's coalition army. In the process of marching, he defeated Dong Zhuojun many times and beheaded Hua Xiong. As for Lu Bu, he was also defeated.

As for how many times, I really can't be too sure. You can take a look at the record of Sun Jian in "Three Kingdoms: Wu Chuanyi".

2. Wei Yan's rebellion, each family has its own opinion. However, I personally feel that Wei Yan will not rebel, his disobedience to military orders is just a manifestation of the struggle for power after Zhuge Liang's death.

At that time, Sun Jian led more soldiers than Lu Bu.

The alliance of the princes of the Eighth Route crusaded against Dong Zhuo and was defeated one after another, and finally the three brothers Liu, Guan and Zhang fought against Lu Bu, and it seemed that the three brothers won by worship, but in fact Lu Bu won.

As soon as I looked at the landlord, I knew that I had read the official history.,Because he has the support of Yuan Shu.,So he dared to drive straight in.。。。

There's no such thing in history, where did lz hear about it?

<> "Record of Sun Jian's defeat of Lü Bu twice.

Ten Tiger Generals, Lu Bu is known as the "First Fierce General". But there was one military general who had defeated Lü Bu twice, and he was the famous general Dian Wei under Cao Cao.

Lu Bu in the people, red rabbit in the horse", Zen orange people who are familiar with the Three Kingdoms know that the Three Kingdoms have a force ranking:

One Lu, two Zhao, three Dian Wei, four passes, five horses and six Zhang Fei. Huang Xu, Sun Tai, two Xiahou, two Zhang, Xu Panggan, Zhou Wei. Twenty-four generals of the Three Kingdoms, defeated Deng Ai and Jiang Wei.

Lu Bu, Zhao Yun, Dian Wei, Guan Yu, Ma Chao, Zhang Fei, Huang Zhong, Xu Yu, Sun Ce, Tai Shici, Xiahou Dun, Xiahou Yuan, Zhang Liao, Zhang He, Xu Huang, Pang De, Gan Ning, Zhou Tai, Wei Yan, Zhang Xiu, Wen Chou, Yan Liang, Deng Ai, Jiang Wei. This is also more acceptable to everyone.

Lu Bu is known for his bravery, especially in the battle of Tiger Prison Pass, he not only killed the general and seized the Shen Rent Flag, but also singled out Liu Bei, Guan Yu, and Zhang Fei with one to three. However, this thrilling "Three Heroes Battle Lu Bu" is only circulated in ** "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", not a historical truth.

In the official history of the Three Kingdoms, there are few records of heads-up incidents. For example, "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" has limited space, and many things are mentioned in one stroke. But "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" does record the deeds of Guan Gong beheading Yan Liang, proving his bravery.

And in the official history, there are indeed people who have defeated Lu Bu, even more than once, a total of two.

This person is Sun Jian, the Taishou of Changsha. It is recorded in the Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms that Sun Jian participated in the alliance of princes who fought against Dong Zhuo, and repeatedly defeated Dong Zhuo as a vanguard, and beheaded Dong Zhuo's general Huaxiong, which is different from Guan Gong's Wenjiu beheading Huaxiong in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms.

Sun Jian's two defeats of Lü Bu are recorded in "Later Han Book Volume 72 Dong Zhuo Lie Biography 62": next year, Sun Jian collected and dispersed his pawns and entered the Yang people of Tunliang County. Zhuo sent Hu Zhen and Lu Bu to attack him.

The cloth and the cloth are incompatible, the army is frightened, and the soldiers are scattered. Firmly pursued it, and the cloth was defeated.

Zhuo sent Li Weiyi to insist on peace, but refused to accept it, and marched to Dagu, ninety miles away from Luo. Zhuo Zi went out and fought between the mausoleums, Zhuo was defeated, but he was in the pond and gathered troops in Shaanxi. Jian entered the Xuanyang City Gate of Luoyang, hit Lu Bu even more, and Bu Fu broke away.

Jian Naisi removed the temple, leveled the tombs, divided the troops to send a letter to Guguan, to Xin'an, between the pond, to poke Zhuohou.

Once Sun Jian pursued Lu Bu and Hu Zhen, and Lu Bu and the two were defeated. Once at the Xuanyang City Gate in Luoyang, he confronted Lu Bu again, and defeated Lu Bu again, causing Lu Bu to be defeated.

Of course, Sun Jian's defeat of Lu Bu these two times, whether he fought alone, it still needs to be verified, and everyone needs to explore the filial piety group together?

Lu Bu died early.

Lu Bu (?) February 7, 199), the word Fengxian, and a native of Jiuyuan County, Wuyuan County, and Prefecture. A famous general in the late Eastern Han Dynasty and one of the heroes in the late Eastern Han Dynasty.

Lu Bu (?) Sun Ce (175 - May 5, 200 [1]), known as Bofu, was a native of Fuchun, Wujun (now Fuyang District, Hangzhou, Zhejiang Province). The eldest son of the general Sun Jian, and the elder brother of Sun Quan next to Emperor Wu.

A warlord who seized the Jiangdong region in the late Eastern Han Dynasty, one of the heroes of the late Han Dynasty, and one of the founders of the Sun Wu regime. Handshake Huai's "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" called his martial arts as the overlord Xiang Yu, nicknamed "Little Overlord".

Sun Ce.

The lifespan of 53 celebrities in the three countries, shocked!

Zhou Yu died at the age of 35. Sun Ce died young at the age of 25. Lu Bu has only been beautiful for 43 years.

The fierce general Dian Wei has only been heroic for 37 years. Guan Yu, 57 years old, was killed. Zhuge Liang, worried too much, returned to the star position at the age of 53.

Cao Cao, 65 years old, traveled west with a crane ......The rolling rock branches roll the Yangtze River to the east, and the waves sweep away the heroes. Right and wrong become coarse, sensitive and defeated, turn your head empty. The green mountains are still there, and the sunset is red several times.

On the white reed and fishing woods on the river, you are accustomed to seeing the autumn moon and spring breeze. A pot of turbid wine is happy to meet. How many things in ancient and modern times are laughing and talking! Relieved!

It should be Lu Bu earlier. When Cao Cao and Liu Bei, the two old buddies, were cooking wine and talking about heroes, there was also Sun Ce. But Lu Bu is gone.

Lu Bu has been defeated many times. Defeated twice by Sun Jian.

1。According to the biography of Dong Zhuolie in the Book of the Later Han Dynasty, it is recorded that "Sun Jian collected and scattered his soldiers and entered the Yang people of Tunliang County." Zhuo sent Hu Zhen and Lu Bu to attack him. The cloth and the cloth are incompatible, the army is frightened, and the soldiers are scattered. Firmly pursued it, and the cloth was defeated. ”

2。Lu Bu was defeated by Sun Jian again. Jian entered the Xuanyang City Gate of Luoyang, hit Lu Bu even more, and Bu Fu broke away. ”

3。Defeated by Li Dao and Guo Yan. Please see the Book of the Later Han Dynasty "The city collapsed, the troops were captured and plundered, and more than 10,000 people died. Kill the guards, breed whisks, etc. Lu Bu was defeated and ran out. ”

4。Defeated by Cao Cao. When Cao Cao heard this, he led the army to attack the cloth, tired of fighting, and held each other for more than 100 days. At that time, drought, locusts, few grains, the people cannibalized, and the mountains and suns were moved. In the past two years, Cao recovered all the cities, raged in Juye, and Budong ran to Liu Bei. ”

But he also has glorious deeds, such as leading dozens of cavalry to fight 100,000. For example, Yuan Shao led his troops to fight, and heard that the opponent was Lu Bu, who was afraid to march. There is also "Lu Bu among people, red rabbit among horses" is not a false name.

When the princes attacked Dong Zhuo, Sun Jian invaded Luoyang, and he should have fought with Lu Bu and won, otherwise how could he scare Dong Zhuo away and recover Luoyang.

Wei Yan definitely did not defect, but infighting with Yang Yi, and in the end Yang Yi won and cut off Wei Yan's head. It is said that Wei Yan's rebellion is **.

Sun Jian didn't beat Lu Bu, Lu Bu was too arrogant, he could only be a general, not suitable for a big leader, and in the end he was calculated by Liu Bei. Wei Yan is a talent to a certain extent, but he has not been reused under Zhuge Liang, Zhuge Liang wants to make a difference after his death, but Jiang Wei takes over Zhuge , he only has a Bo,

It seems that no, Lu Bu's betrayal of his relatives and finally let Cao Cao be destroyed. Wei Yan finally defected.

Lu Bu's personal combat ability is indeed very strong, and Sun Jian is also very powerful, and it is estimated that he is not under Lu Bu in terms of martial arts. Although Lu Bu has good martial arts, he does not have a good ability to command the army, that is, the ability to lead troops in battle is not enough. Lu Bu is known as the first military general of the Three Kingdoms to a large extent due to the influence of "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", in fact, many of the "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" are not quite the same as the official history.

Sun Jian's defeat of Lü Bu was when many princes fought against Dong Zhuo together in the official history, Sun Jian's soldiers were particularly brave all the way, and they rushed straight to Dong Zhuo, just to fight to the end, Dong Zhuo sent his generals Hu Zhen and Lü Bu to deal with Sun JianIn fact, it was Hu Zhen who followed Lu Bu to lead the troops, which can also be seen that Lu Bu may not actually have good military talent. But no matter how powerful the two are, they don't have as much experience as Sun Jian.

Sun Jian knew the enemy very well, so he took advantage of Lu Bu's insufficient military ability, and Lu Bu and Hu Zhen had a small contradiction before, and quickly defeated Hu Zhen. also killed Hu Zhen's Huaxiong, which made Lu Bu have no choice but to retreat first. Later, Dong Zhuo personally led the troops to defeat Sun Jian, but he still failed.

Dong Zhuo left Lu Bu to break off, and he secretly escaped, and naturally Lu Bu did not beat Sun Jian in the end.

It can be seen that Sun Jian should be above Lu BuWe say that Lu Bu is the first military general, mainly because of the exaggeration of Lu Bu in "Romance of the Three Kingdoms".Many of them are not quite the same as the official history, for example, Hua Xiong was not killed by Guan Yu. There is no such plot of the Three Heroes fighting Lu Bu. It is precisely because of the three heroic battles in the book that Lu Bu has the reputation of being the number one military general in the world.

Lu Bu is indeed strong in martial arts, but he lacks heat in military affairs, so he naturally can't compare to Sun Jian.

Because Lu Bu has been strengthened in the ** of "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", everyone thinks so.

Lu Bu is known as the first general, which refers to his personal ability, brave and fierce, invincible, and his defeat by Sun Jian has a certain relationship with the lack of ability of his generals.

Because Lu Bu fought against Sun Jian, he couldn't win because Lu Bu's military ability was not good, not his personal ability, and Lu Bu's own martial arts were strong, so he was still called the first general.

How do you expect to win if the internal situation is not in suit? Especially Lu Bu's official position is still under Hu Zhen. Lu Bu was the only force to defeat Dong Zhuo, and it was twice.

Sun Jian's military planning ability is stronger than that of Lu Bu. Lu Bu is known as the first military general of the Three Kingdoms, which has a lot to do with "Romance of the Three Kingdoms".

Lu Bu did not win against Sun Jian, it may be because the military strategy is not good, it does not mean that Lu Bu's force value is not high.

Because his ability should have something to do with it, or some other reason.

Sun Jian and Lu Bu were both world-famous figures in Chinese history, and both were hailed as great heroes at that time. To judge which is better, Sun Jian or Lu Bu, we need to analyze and compare from different levels and angles.

First of all, judging from his personal achievements and achievements, Lü Bu caused great damage to the enemy with his strong personal ability and unique tactics, and the troops he led performed well in many historical battles, and his bravery and loyalty are also commendable. Although Sun Jian is also a top military strategist, his battle achievements and achievements may not be as good as Lu Bu's. Moreover, although Sun Jian is outstanding in force, he may not be as wise as Lu Bu in handling political affairs.

Therefore, from this point of view, Lu Bu's performance in the war may be better than Sun Jian's.

However, if we look at it in terms of personal character and career achievements, Sun Jian may be superior. Sun Jian, as a famous "three loyalties" in Chinese history, did not hesitate to give his life for the common people of the world and the great righteousness of the nation. Although Sun Jian died early, his life of conquest and a series of actions and deeds have directly or indirectly affected the entire history of China.

At the same time, when Sun Jian was in power, he paid attention to ability and good governance, especially when he promoted and cultivated Zhao Yun, Zhou Yu and others, which made the later Eastern Wu prosperous. Although Lu Bu has a brilliant record and power, his loyalty has always been a problem, coupled with his various missed opportunities, and finally he ended up with a tragic end.

In general, for the question of who is more powerful, Sun Jian and Lu Bu have their own advantages and disadvantages. If you look at it from the perspective of historical status and personal morality, Sun Jian has superb quality; If you look at it in terms of war achievements, Lü Bu is even better. To sum up, it is not clear which one is stronger or better, and it still needs to be analyzed on a case-by-case basis, according to different levels and perspectives.