Look at the Great Qin Empire, Wei Ying and Mencius debated

It's complete.

Shang Ying was 18 years older than Mencius!!

It's all on TV.

Besides, the theory of sexual evil was put forward by Xunzi.

Said fundamentally. The theory of sexual evil is just another school of thought in Confucianism.

Perhaps it is the birthplace of Han Fei's later Legalism.

But it was certainly not Shang Ying who proposed it first.

The landlord is talking about Shang Ying, right?As far as I know, there is no such record.

I have read both the ancient texts and the historical records, and the more famous debates in them do not have a dialogue between these two people, and it is estimated that it is a screenwriting artistic process.

Probably not, I heard that Mencius was only a teenager at that time...

No, Shang Ying's argument with Mencius is just fiction in film and television dramas.

Historically, Mencius and Shang Yang have never met, let alone debated in person. Although Mencius's thought is in direct opposition to Legalism, the Seven Chapters of Mencius do not directly criticize Legalism and Shang Ying.

But in the TV series "Great Qin Empire", the Jixia School Palace held an academic debate to welcome Meng Fuzi into Qi. Among them, Shang Ying's refutation of Mencius is only the artistic creation of the screenwriter, and there is no such thing in history.

I don't know if you have watched the recently released TV series "Da Qin Fu"?To tell the truth, I don't know why this TV series ruined me as a straight man, but I didn't expect a serious historical drama to be filmed into this Guiyang, so, I went to watch the previous trilogy again, and when I watched the first part, I found that when Shang Ying arrived in Qi Kingdom, there was a paragraph of content that was deleted, which is unfortunate, I found this deleted fragment, let's take a look at what is being said in this fragment!

At the beginning of this deleted fragment, Mencius bluntly said that the content of their school has been known to the world, so he will not discuss them one by one, please speak boldly, and do your own answers, at this time, soon a person stood up to refute it, asking Mencius what is the relationship between the world and the noble, to which Mencius replied: The people are precious, the society is secondary, and the monarch is pro, but these words made Shen Buxian disagree with this.

Shen Bu Xi asked Mencius: The world is turbulent, dare to ask what the key is, in this regard, Mencius bluntly said: do not lose the courtesy, do not prosper the benevolent government, kill and conquer as fast, is for the key point, in this regard, Shen Bu harm thinks that this is not very feasible, because Shen Bu Xi thinks that the rise and fall of the state is the rule of man, but Mencius thinks that the rule of man is virtue, at least stronger than the power of the country, but Shen Bu is not calm, that the rule of art is the core of the Legalist, not the study of power and art.

Mencius still did not forget to sneer, saying that people are the study of troubled times, for such a statement, Shang Ying couldn't stand it, came to the stage, and bluntly said that Mencius is a big fallacy, because he described Legalism as a school of magic and governance is absurd, Legalism is to recognize the rule of law for the purpose, and in the implementation of each has its own focus, and Mencius attacked a point, and ignored the overall situation of Legalism, what Legalism did was to purge the rule of officials in punishment.

This made Mencius furious, slapped the table and asked him where he was sacred, and the elder behind him introduced the relevant information of Shang Ying, and then Mencius began to refute, thinking that he had not heard of the Legalists, and he thought that the harsh government and the tiger were not exaggerated, but Shang Ying felt that Mencius was really ridiculous to be able to discuss the first conviction, and then Wei Ying said his own opinion, he believed that the rule of law in the world does not lie in discourse, but in prevention.

Shang Ying thinks that any method, as long as it can strengthen the country and enrich the people, who is the right way, otherwise it will be abandoned, and Mencius does not think so, he thinks that people's hearts are good, but Shang Ying once again refuted that human nature is evil, which made everyone present shout, want to hear Shang Ying's thoughts, even Mencius wants to hear his statement, Shang Ying began to tell his own point of view, here, his point of view is too complicated, I personally recommend that you go to see the deleted fragment, if you want, you can chat with me privately.

However, I don't know why this paragraph was later deleted by the filmmaker, from this paragraph, we can see Shang Ying's point of view, he believes that the use of the law to prevent the evil of human nature, this point, I am in favor, it is precisely because of the evil of human nature that everyone needs to take precautions, in fact, just like today's law, he stipulates how bad a person is, how bad can he be, so, Shang Ying's discussion, I personally support it.

Shang Ying was twelve years older than Mencius, and at the age of thirty-three or four, Shang Ying began to change the law, and thirty-four-year-old people went to listen to a twenty-two-year-old master, in fact, Mencius only came to Qi for the first time at the age of forty-three, and it was a joke if you think about it carefully.

They are all reformers. The reforms that have been pursued have been successful.

Guan Zhong (719 BC-645 BC), surnamed Ji, Guan Shi, name Yiwu, Zi Zhong, Zhen Jing, a representative figure of Legalism in the Spring and Autumn Period. Known as Guanzi, Guan Yiwu, Guan Jingzhong, a native of Yingshang (now Yingshang County, Fuyang City, Anhui Province), a descendant of King Mu of Zhou. He was a famous philosopher, politician and military strategist in ancient China.

He is known as "the pioneer of legalism", "the teacher of sages", "the protector of Chinese civilization", and "the first minister of China".

Shang Ying (c. 395 BC, 338 BC), a politician, reformer, thinker, and representative of Legalism during the Warring States Period, was a native of Weiguo (now Liangzhuang Town, Neihuang County, Anyang City, Henan Province)[1-2], a descendant of the monarch of Weiguo, surnamed Gongsun, so he was also known as Wei Martingale and Gongsun Marting. Later, because of his meritorious service in the battle of Hexi, he was awarded the title of Shang in 15 Yi, and was called Shang Jun, so he was called Shang Ying.

Wei Xiaowen Emperor Tuoba Hong (October 13, 467, April 26, 499), the eldest son of Emperor Xianwen Tuoba Hong, the sixth emperor of the Northern Wei Dynasty during the Northern and Southern Dynasties, was originally named Tuoba Hong, and later changed his name to Yuan Hong. Outstanding statesman, reformer. He was only 5 years old when he ascended the throne, and he became a pro-government in 490 AD.

After the pro-government, further reforms were implemented: in 494 AD (the eighteenth year of Taihe), Emperor Xiaowen moved the capital from Pingcheng to Luoyang; Later, he changed the Xianbei surname to the Han surname, so as to change the Xianbei customs, language, and clothing. In addition, intermarriage between Xianbei and Han Chinese was encouraged; Assess the clan of the scholars, and strengthen the joint rule of the Xianbei aristocracy and the Han people; Referring to the rules and regulations of the Southern Dynasties, the official system of court ceremonies was formulated.

Emperor Xiaowen's reform played a positive role in the integration of the people of all ethnic groups and the development of all ethnic groups. In 499 A.D. (the twenty-third year of Taihe), Tuoba Hong died of illness, Emperor Xiaowen, and the temple name was Gaozu.

Reasons for the success of the reforms:

Complying with the trend of historical development, advancing with the times, and reforming with the times are the fundamental reasons for success;

All of them encountered opposition and obstacles from the old forces, but from the perspective of the balance of forces, they were conducive to reform;

At that time, the internal and external environment was conducive to the development and implementation of reforms;

The reform measures were in line with the reality of the time and were effective, and they all promoted the feudalization of the regime;

Reformers had great foresight and firm political ambition.

What Guan Zhong, Shang Ying, and Emperor Xiaowen have in common is that they have all carried out reforms.