Dian Wei, Xu Chu, Xiahou and them, why aren t they five good generals?

Updated on history 2024-04-29
20 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-08

    They should be regarded as fierce generals, to be precise, "generals", not "handsome".

    Handsome is used to lead generals.

    It will be used to lead troops.

    A simple old saying goes something like this:

    Those who can lead the troops are called generals"; "Those who can be generals are called handsome."

    The terms "handsome" and "general" have been used in a long history of war, so they are more customary and popular. Shuai Cai is a level higher than the general, focusing on strategic thinking, and its knowledge and cultivation can raise itself to the due space realm, so its thinking covers a wide area and has strong penetration. The general is a person who can control the situation within a certain local scope and can lead his subordinates to successfully complete the tasks assigned by the commander-in-chief, and he focuses on the study of tactics or methods and methods.

    In the era of peace, the handsome talent in the period of economic construction is the leader of a larger region, the decision-maker of a large-scale project, and the organization and commander of interprofessional or multi-professional collaboration.

    The difference between handsome talent and general talent is that handsome talent is superior to others, with more keen insight and innovation ability, and handsome talent is better at grasping opportunities and knowing more subtleties!

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-07

    They are all fierce generals, but it seems that it is almost impossible to be a commander, and the five good generals are all commander-level figures.

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-06

    The five tiger generals said that it was made up by the ** family.

    The regime of the Eight Classics is not "Liangshanbo Heroes Ranking", nor is it "Top Ten Marshals and Ten Generals", what does he do exclusively?

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-05

    Because they mixed with Cao Cao, when Cao Cao unified the north, they died in battle.

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-04

    More than bravery, not enough resourcefulness.

    Loyal, but not talented as a soldier.

    Can only be a bodyguard.

    Although Yu Ban surrendered to Guan Yu, he was arrested in Wu State.

    But who can be faultless in life, it is recommended that you take a look at the Three Kingdoms, and you will know what merits and talents Yu Ban has. The five good generals are better than the five tiger generals.

  6. Anonymous users2024-02-03

    To discuss this issue, we must first talk about what kind of concept the five sons are generals. During the Three Kingdoms period, there was no such thing as a good general of the five sons. It's just that when Chen Shou wrote "Three Kingdoms", he juxtaposed Zhang Liao, Le Jin, Yu Ban, Zhang He, and Xu Huang into a biography, that is, "Wei Shu Seventeen Zhang Le Zhang Xu Biography".

    At the end of "Zhang Leyu Zhang Xu Biography", Chen Shou commented on the five people, "Taizu Jianzi martial arts, and the good generals of the time, the five sons are the first", so later generations have the saying that the five sons are good generals.

    Among the four people, Xu Chu, Dian Wei, Xiahoudun, and Xiahou Yuan, Xiahou Dun and Xiahou Yuan were Cao Cao's relatives, and Chen Shou put them together with Cao Ren, Cao Hong and others in the "Biography of Xiahou Cao" in Wei Shujiu, and wrote them separately from the generals with foreign surnames. So obviously, it is impossible for them to write together with Zhang Liao and others. Therefore, Xiahoudun and Xiahouyuan are not included in the five good generals, just because their surname is Xiahou, and it has nothing to do with ability or anything.

    As for Xu Chu and Dian Wei, Chen Shou put them behind "Wei Shu Seventeen Zhang Leyu Zhang Xu Biography", and Li Dian, Li Tong, Zang Ba and others were written in "Wei Shu Eighteen Two Li Zangwen Lu Xu Dian Er Pang Yan Biography". Among the ten people in this article, all of them are generals with foreign surnames under Cao Cao, and Chen Shou also has a good evaluation of them. For example, Xu Chu and Dian Wei Chen Shou said that they "folded left and right, and they were also the Fan of the Han Dynasty", comparing them to Fan Xu, which can be said to have a very high positioning.

    However, since Chen Shou put Zhang Liao and the other five people in front of him alone among the generals with foreign surnames, and said that the five of them had the greatest credit when Cao Cao established his meritorious deeds, he obviously still thought that although the ten generals including Xu Chu and Dian Wei were good, there was still a gap between them and Zhang Liao. This is actually reflected in the official positions of the two groups of people, so it is not just determined by Chen Shou's personal likes and dislikes. Therefore, Xiahoudun and Xiahouyuan were not ranked with Zhang Liao and others because of their identity, while Xu Chu and Dian Wei were still lacking compared to Zhang Liao, so they were not among them.

  7. Anonymous users2024-02-02

    Because their role is greater, they have a higher position that they need to sit in, and their power is actually greater, and they don't need to be ranked among the five good generals.

  8. Anonymous users2024-02-01

    There were many famous generals during the Three Kingdoms period, and there were even fewer who could be ranked among the five good generals, and the first condition that needed to be met was to be brave and good at fighting, and they also needed to have enough wisdom and famous battles.

  9. Anonymous users2024-01-31

    Xiahoudun is even more powerful, Xiahoudun is not only stronger than Dian Wei and Xu Chu in force, but also a good hand at arranging troops and governing the country. Speaking of force alone, in several battles between Cao Cao and Lu Bu, Xiahoudun singled out Lu Bu three times, and fought for more than an hour, Cao Cao did not send Dian Wei to help in the war, nor did he send Dian Wei to fight Lu Bu, and then received Xu Chu, Cao Cao first let Xu Chu single out Lu Bu, and the result was only 20 together, Cao Cao sent Dian Wei to help in the war. In the later battle of Xiapi to collect Guan Yu, Xu Chu and Xu Huang blocked a road, and Xiahoudun blocked a road alone, such an obvious gap fully shows that Xiahoudun is far stronger than Guan Yu, and is also more powerful than Dian Wei and Xu Chu.

  10. Anonymous users2024-01-30

    Personally, I think Xu Chu is stronger, because Xu Chu has a lot of famous records, and it is difficult to solve the problem with Ma Chao, the general of the Five Tigers.

  11. Anonymous users2024-01-29

    Xu Chu, because I don't think Xiahou Chun has won many battles.

  12. Anonymous users2024-01-28

    Xu Chu's strength is stronger, Xu Chu once fought with Ma Chao, and the two of them won or lost, their strength was very strong, and Xiahoudun couldn't beat Ma Chao.

  13. Anonymous users2024-01-27

    Xu Chu, Dian Wei's ability is not enough to be ranked in the ranks of the "Five Good Generals"; And Xiahoudun, Xiahou Yuan's status far exceeds the standard of "five good generals". During the Three Kingdoms period, heroes emerged one after another, and heroes swarmed. Cao Cao, Emperor Wu of Wei, has a lot of talents under him, and he is also a majestic and strategic, unparalleled;

    Therefore, he founded the "Cao Wei Force", which had the strongest Chinese power and the most extensive territory among the "Three Kingdoms". There are countless famous generals in Cao Wei, the most famous of which is the "Five Good Generals". According to the record of "Three Kingdoms", it is said that "the famous generals of the time, the five sons are the first".

    However, in addition to the five good generals, Cao Wei still has many generals who are no less well-known than the five good generals: for example, the tiger idiot Xu Chu, the evil Dian Wei, and the two brothers "Xiahou". Why weren't they on this list?

    First of all, Xu Chu and Dian Wei are Cao Cao's trusted "fighting generals".

    They have always been responsible for protecting Cao Cao's personal safety, and basically have no chance to lead the troops to fight alone. As a result, they seldom made any achievements in battle (of course, these two men had little talent for marching and fighting); Therefore, it cannot be ranked in the list of "five good generals".

    Xiahou Yuan, what about Xiahou Yuan? The status of these two brothers, among the many famous generals of Wei State, can be said to be "above 10,000 people", and the five good generals are: Zhang Liao, Xu Huang, Yu Ban, Zhang He, and Le Jin.

    No matter what period it is, the military power and official position of the five good generals have never climbed to the head of the "Shuangxiahou".

    In the Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms, the Xiahou brothers and the generals of the Cao family are listed together in the "Biography of Xiahou Cao Lie", which has already shown that their identities are extraordinary. Why? People are Cao Cao's "family".

    Although Cao Cao has a reputation for "meritocracy", he is extremely sensitive to the powder keg of "military power" that can subvert his authority at any time. No matter how "white general" Xiahou Yuan is, how many defeats Xiahoudun is, these two brothers have always been Cao Wei's highest military commanders. The "Five Good Generals" still have to stand aside.

  14. Anonymous users2024-01-26

    Xu Zhudianwei is a bodyguard, he does not lead troops to fight, Xiahou Yuan Xiahou Yuan is a family, and the five good generals are all generals with foreign surnames, and they were promoted to do shows.

  15. Anonymous users2024-01-25

    Dian Wei died early and was as brave and resourceless as Xu Chu! Xiahou Yuan Xiahou Yuan Cao Ren Cao Hong is the flesh and blood of Cao Cao's own family, and his status and military power are above the five sons, so he doesn't need these false names!

  16. Anonymous users2024-01-24

    General Wuziliang has always been used by Xiahou Yuan, Xiahou Yuan as his deputy, and Xu Chudianwei is the security captain

  17. Anonymous users2024-01-23

    Xiahou Yuan Xiahou Dun is the younger brother of Cao Cao, and his status is much higher than that of the five sons, and the status of Dian Wei Xu Chu is also higher than that of the five sons.

  18. Anonymous users2024-01-22

    The five sons were selected on the basis of their ability to command troops, not on the basis of force. And the five of them, except for Lejin, the others are not as strong as the five tiger generals.

  19. Anonymous users2024-01-21

    They didn't rank in Wuziliang because their relationship with Cao Cao was too close, and Cao Cao didn't rank them in order to avoid suspicion.

  20. Anonymous users2024-01-20

    Two Cao Cao's personal bodyguards, a chariot general and a general, are Mao's five good generals

    Related questions
    12 answers2024-04-29

    Instantly deals 14% of lost true damage to nearby enemy heroes; Xiahoudun's passive is triggered when the HP is less than 50%, and every time a basic attack and skill hits the target, it will regenerate 2% HP for 8 seconds and a cooldown of 60 seconds.

    13 answers2024-04-29

    The setting of the force value of a number of top generals in "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" has always been very fascinating, and Luo Guanzhong seems to be creating one"The duels between the masters are all five or five"results. >>>More

    16 answers2024-04-29

    Xiahoudun didn't hurt his eyes, but he couldn't beat Zhao Yun. In the Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Changshan Zhao Zilong is a victorious general, without a single defeat on the battlefield, and at the age of more than 770, he is still able to kill five enemy generals in front of the battle. This courage, this heroism is worthy of the title of a victorious general, Xiahoudun's personal force and Zhao Yun are not at the same level at all, when Guan Yu passed five levels and cut six generals Xiahoudun once went to stop him, this time he saw that Guan Yu did not go all out, he knew Xiahoudun's position in Cao Cao's mind, if he killed Xiahoudun on Cao Cao's territory, it would be difficult to get out. >>>More

    32 answers2024-04-29

    Cao Cao was a man who understood righteousness, and he knew that Zhang Yan had to say such things in order to save Xiahoudun's life. At that time, Xiahoudun was the general of Cao's army, and he went to pursue the enemy, but he was careless, accidentally fell into the enemy's tricks, and was kidnapped by a group of deserters. The deserter looked at it, yo, it's a big man, and he was so happy. >>>More

    19 answers2024-04-29

    Yes, although there is not much difference in the strength of the two, Guan Yu should be young and vigorous and have a chance to win.