Why did the ancient people call forensic medicine a puppet?

Because it was very hard to inspect the corpse in ancient times, and the feudal mentality in ancient times was serious, it was generally checked by the untouchables or slaves when the corpse was examined and reported to **.

During the Sui and Tang dynasties, the word "仵作" has appeared, is the person in charge of the funeral industry, and then gradually developed into an organization, the five generations of Wang Renyu "Yutang Gossip" contains: the members of this kind of funeral folk guild are called "仵作pedestrian ".

Although he has been engaged in the work of human life for a long time, the ancient Chinese feudal ideology is extremely heavy, and since the time of Yao Shun, the untouchables or slaves have examined the corpses and reported the situation, which is equivalent to the prototype of ancient forensic medicine. In ancient times, it was held by low-status untouchables, probably the burial of corpses and the slaughter of coffins, and their descendants were forbidden to participate in the imperial examinations, so they became the object of ridicule and ridicule by many people.

Special title, post-mortem officer. Internationally, Song Ci of the Southern Song Dynasty is generally regarded as the originator of Chinese forensic science, and the "Collection of Grievances" is the culmination of it. If you want to know more about it, you can buy this book.

Strictly speaking, it is different from today's forensics. He belonged to the "officials", and he was generally from a very humble background (before the unification of the country, the descendants of the state were not even allowed to participate in the imperial examination). After the appearance of a criminal case, the coroner and the coroner want to go together, but the coroner actually does not do anything, relying on the pretense to turn over the situation and make noise about the corpse, and if he sees something, he reports to the coroner, and finally the coroner writes the report book and is responsible for the autopsy report.

In many costume TV series, in order to be able to find out a case, then you need to start with the corpse. In costume dramas, there will be a forensic doctor, from the perspective of function, both the forensic doctor and the forensic doctor seem to be examining the body, and then judging the cause of the person's death, the event of death, physical characteristics, etc. Therefore, it will give many people the impression that ancient forensics and modern forensics are actually the same.

Is that really the case?

Let's start with the concept of serving. In ancient times, the earliest was the late Warring States period of the "Lingshi", they were a group of people who specially took people to examine the corpse or the living, and later during the Han Dynasty, forensic medical examination has prevailed, and there are also arrangements for personnel, each county has about one to three people, they also have wages, the Sui and Tang dynasties appeared the word "work", responsible for the funeral industry, the Song Dynasty Song Ci's record of clearing grievances has become a necessary reference book for this industry.

Although it is very important to work in the investigation of the case, it is very important to deal with the dead, and the ancient people's feudal reform is very heavy, so from the beginning to the Qing Dynasty, the work has always been held by untouchables with a very low social status, especially their descendants are not allowed to participate in the imperial examination, and it is difficult for us to see the records of the work in the ancient official history, ** They are also written as negative characters, and the overall social factors are like this, and the level of the work is naturally difficult to improve. Perhaps this profession has not developed much from the beginning of its birth to the future.

It wasn't until the Qing Dynasty that the status of the work was slightly higher, but this was only written in the law, and whether others would implement it was another matter. However, it can still be seen in some things that the status of the servant has been slightly improved, but unfortunately this promotion is still not high. The most obvious difference between forensic medicine and forensic medicine is that forensic doctors can dissect corpses, but they cannot.

This point also stems from the environment of the whole society, the ancients believed that the dead were great, and the whole corpse should be kept, and the body could not be damaged by the parents and objects, how could others be allowed to destroy? Although autopsy can provide more clues to help solve the case, it is still not possible to do it because of this perception. Modern forensics can be seen as the result of the rapid development of ancient forensics, but don't think that they are really backward.

After all, to judge how a dead person died, it is impossible to do it without professional knowledge, such as pharmacology, pathology, human body and other aspects, if it is more difficult to encounter a decomposing corpse, but they will also have a way, and the judgment of the prisoner is very important, related to the life and death of the prisoner, so the inspection must also be extremely careful, and it is not even possible to just look at it once, to find all kinds of clues, if you kill a good person because of your own mistakes, I am afraid that I will not be able to live in this life.

In ancient times, forensic medicine belonged to subordinates, while modern forensic medicine is an independent department, and the means of examination are different, so forensic medicine is considered to be developed from the work of the doctor, but it is by no means the same as the work of the doctor, and it is two similar but never different professions.

Ancient forensic doctors called it Qi Zuo, Ling Shi, Mr. Yin and Yang, Wen Po, Coroner, etc. Forensic medicine is a kind of national forensic expert who uses various technical branches or means to conduct on-site medical investigation, medical follow-up evidence collection, autopsy, symptom analysis, etc.

Forensic medicine is a scientific and technical surgeon who uses basic medicine, clinical medicine, and related forensic science and technology and forensic technology to investigate, identify, and identify the human body and crime scene related to the law.

In modern China, forensic medicine has become a complex and open system, actively absorbing knowledge from mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology, psychology, and computer science and engineering. Sharp Hand Min.

For forensic medicine, the human body is not the goal, the spirit of the rule of law and the awareness of human rights are the ultimate goal, and medical science is the means to achieve the goal.

The functions are basically the same, except that the means available are much fewer than those of modern forensics.

Not exactly. He is only responsible for the post-mortem examination, and the forensic work is more comprehensive. Differences: Modern forensic doctors have a high status, equivalent to civil servants, and ancient forensic doctors have a low status.

It can be regarded as a problem, because they all start from the corpse to find out the cause of death of the deceased, and provide investigation ideas and evidence for the investigators of the case.

Their work is actually the same, but their status is different, in ancient times, they were all performed by people with lower status, and now the status of forensic doctors is very high.

During the Sui and Tang dynasties, he was mainly responsible for the funeral industry, and then gradually evolved into the profession of forensic medicine, which was the result of the evolution of the forensic profession.

Part of their work was similar, which was to examine corpses, but they were only half a forensic doctor, because in the past they had a very low status and they were not allowed to dissect corpses.

In ancient times, the earliest works were the "Lingshi" in the late Warring States period, and they were a group of people who specialized in leading people to examine corpses or living bodies. It has always been the work of untouchables of very low social status.

There is still a little difference between a forensic and a forensic doctor. The purpose of the examination is to examine the cause of death, while the medical examiner dissects the body to find out the more specific cause of death.

There is a difference between ancient forensic medicine and modern forensic medicine. The examination of the corpse is a very hard task, which is usually done by the untouchables or slaves and reports the situation to the **, which refers to the untouchables and slaves. And now the status of forensic medicine is very high, and it is basically a one-stop service.

It's definitely different, the forensic doctor is just a doctor, and the servant is to help the dead do a lot of things, basically to deal with the aftermath.

It's all about the same, they all examine and autopsy those who died, find out the real cause of death, such as how long the body has been dead and what characteristics it has.

Of course, there is, but in ancient times it was not called forensics.

In the Song Dynasty, he was called a criminal officer.

During the Ming and Qing dynasties, the criminal officer was abolished, and it was collectively called - 仵作.

In ancient China, forensic doctors were called 仵Zuo.

In the old days, the government examined the dead body, because it was very hard to examine the corpse, and the ancient feudal ideology was serious, so when the corpse was examined, the untouchables or slaves generally checked the corpse and reported the situation, which was equivalent to modern forensic medicine. At the end of the Qing Dynasty, it was renamed as an inspector, and it was still used in the Beiyang ** period. In the old days, the officials who examined the dead and wounded in the official office were called "仵 zuo".

In ancient times, it was one of the 36 lines, called "仵作行". In fact, the examination of injuries is mainly carried out on the corpse of an unnatural death, and the cause of death is similar to that of later forensic medicine. But strictly speaking, there is a difference between the practice and today's forensics.

仵zuo belongs to the "officials", and is generally from a very humble background (before the proclamation of unification, the descendants of the 仵zuo were not even allowed to participate in the imperial examination). After the appearance of a criminal case, the coroner and the coroner have to go together, but the coroner actually does not do anything, but relies on the corpse to rummage through the corpse, and if he sees something, he reports to the coroner, and finally the coroner writes the report and is responsible for the autopsy report. Today's forensics are a combination of the two.

In Chinese history, one of the most famous "forensic doctors" was Song Ci of the Southern Song Dynasty. However, he was not a forensic doctor in the typical sense of the word today. To a large extent, Song Ci is a ** who is committed to the collection, collation and research of autopsy knowledge.

Song Ci served as a prisoner four times. This is the chief judicial inspector of the local government, and one of the important tasks is to be responsible for reviewing the investigation and trial at the grassroots level. He found that the grassroots ** was often unable to preside over the autopsy work well because of the lack of knowledge of the autopsy, which led to some false examination conclusions and unjust cases.

Yes, in ancient times, when it happened, it had to go through a forensic examination before the case could be decided, which is similar to now. At that time, the forensic doctor was called "Zuozuo". Have you watched the TV series Da Song Ti Criminal Officer? The person in charge of the coffin opening the autopsy is the forensic doctor.

There should be, such as Qi Zuo should be forensic medicine, and Song Ci of the Song Dynasty was the founder of Chinese forensic science.

The Song Dynasty should have existed, it is said that it started with Song Ci, but it should have existed earlier, but it was not called forensic medicine at that time.

During the Song Dynasty, Song Ci pioneered forensic identification.