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The number of the Eight-Nation Coalition is constantly increasing, and in the decisive war the Eight-Nation Coalition has 220,000 troops, and they have an advantage in terms of strength, coupled with external factors and advanced **, the defeat of the Qing army has been accelerated.

In fact, their troops are not particularly large, but our country is relatively backward in terms of seclusion, and in terms of the use of **, no one else is advanced.

The Wanqing army was defeated and retreated, and the real strength of the Eight-Nation Alliance was about 200,000.

The defeat of the Qing army was not very related to ** on the whole, but the politics of the imperial court dragged the front line to a considerable extent. Strategically, Cixi blindly declared war on 11 major powers, including the Eight-Nation Alliance, but never seriously made arrangements and deployments at the strategic level. Although the Qing army was numerous, it did not have a unified commander and lacked a unified and rigorous staff system.

This put the Qing army in a situation of fighting on its own from the beginning. In terms of tactics, the Qing army can also get out of the neat and beautiful queue during training with advanced **, but due to the clumsy tactics, they will still inevitably be beaten passively when they reach actual combat. The Qing army was a mess in terms of ammunition management.

On the surface, the ** equipment of the Qing army does not seem to lag behind, but when they go to the battlefield, they find that the ammunition prepared in advance does not match the ** model used. There is no doubt that this, of course, will greatly affect the combat efficiency of the Qing army. The confusion in the management of ammunition is only a microcosm of the many shortcomings of the Qing army:

Although the Qing army was equipped with seemingly advanced hot weapons, its military concepts, command system, and logistical supply were completely stuck in the era of cold weapons. Most of the temporarily recruited armies were made up of idle people. These armies of smokers, thieves, gamblers, etc., have little training, so they tend to collapse at the touch of an enemy when faced on the battlefield.

The improvised Qing soldiers may have been peasants carrying hoes the day before. These untrained peasants may be asked to fight with guns on their shoulders the next day. Such a unit lacks rigorous training, lacks the tempering of exercises, and lacks the cultivation of military qualities.

How could such hastily recruited troops not be scattered in the face of a well-trained enemy? Although the Qing army was equipped with a new style, it still used the old-fashioned military system. In the Qing army, only Wu Weijun had learned Western-style training methods, but even Wu Weijun had only learned the surface.

Because the Qing army's strength was distributed in Beijing and Tianjin, the numerical advantage was not as great as the inherent impression, and the equipment of the first class was varied, so it would be a fiasco.

Because it was not good, everyone was advanced and modern at that time, and the Qing army was still traditional, and the army did not carry out modern training, and its combat effectiveness was very low.

Although the total strength of the Eight-Nation Coalition was more than 49,000, the actual troops attacking Tianjin and Beijing were more than 16,000. The largest number of them was more than 8,000 Japanese troops, in addition to 5,000 Russian troops, 3,000 British troops, 2,000 American troops, and 800 French troops. The Qing army on the front line of Pingjin is about 100,000 people, most of which are armed guards with advanced equipment.

It is said that when the Eight-Nation Coalition invaded China, it successfully invaded Beijing with only 20,000 troops, and there was not even any **, which is actually not accurate. In general, the real strength of the Eight-Nation Alliance is actually 220,000 troops, but I feel that the defeat of the Qing army is not excusable, in the final analysis, it is caused by internal factors, and it is related to the Qing ** itself. <>

In order to suppress the Boxer Rebellion and gain more benefits in China, the eight countries united to launch a war of aggression against China, violating China's sovereignty and seizing China's territory. Unable to bear it anymore, Cixi declared war on the Eight-Nation Alliance. At the beginning, the Eight-Nation Coalition only sent only more than 2,000 people to invade, and after the failure, the Eight-Nation Coalition Army became angry and formed more than 20,000 troops to launch an attack, from the southeast coastal area all the way up, to Beijing, and the Qing army was defeated.

At that time, the Qing army was definitely more than just 20,000 troops, but the reason why it lost so badly was because Tsarist Russia arranged for more than 170,000 troops to invade Northeast China at that time, with a total of 220,000 people. <>

Although the Eight-Nation Alliance had a crushing advantage, under the poison of feudal ideology, the Qing army desperately tried to save the rule of the Qing Dynasty and made great efforts. When the city of Beijing was attacked, the Qing army rose up to resist, causing the Eight-Nation Alliance to pay the price and lose part of its troops. Originally, victory was expected, but when she heard that the Eight-Nation Coalition had invaded Beijing, Cixi was very panicked and ran away with the emperor directly.

After hearing that Cixi had fled, the army was disheartened and passive in battle, and soon could not resist the attack of the Eight-Nation Alliance. <>

However, it is felt that the Qing army could not resist the Eight-Nation Alliance, which cannot be explained by "extenuating circumstances", and the Communist Party used fewer troops to achieve the greatest victory in order to resist Japan. At the time of the civil war between the Kuomintang and the Communist Party, the Communists were at a disadvantage, but in the end they defeated the Kuomintang. So this is related to the Qing ** itself, it is the Qing ** itself that is too corrupt, does not want to make progress, is greedy for pleasure, and has poor combat effectiveness, so that it will lose this battle and make this history a shame for China.

We must not forget the national humiliation and keep China firmly in mind, just to keep in mind the fact that "if you are backward, you will be beaten."

I think it's understandable, because at that time China was very backward, and the combat effectiveness of the army was relatively weak, and it was not particularly advanced.

At that time, it was understandable that the Qing army could not stop the Eight-Nation Alliance. And the main reason for this consequence is that Qing ** is too weak and has no responsibility.

If it is really 220,000 troops, then it is indeed excusable, after all, the materials of the Qing Dynasty at that time were relatively backward, and the number of people was not as large as the other party.

**There is not much gap, mainly because of the backward level of training, the lack of qualified commanders, and the lack of morale. I believe that every Chinese person knows about the invasion of China by the Eight-Nation Alliance, and you must know that the enemy at that time only had more than 20,000 troops, and the number of Qing troops together reached about 110,000. Some people say it's because of the gap in **, but it's not that simple.

First of all, the Qing Dynasty had already introduced a large number of advanced Western ** at that time. For example, in the 1988 Sino-French War, the Qing army used firearms on the battlefield, and in the First Sino-Japanese War, Japan's equipment even lagged behind ours. As soon as the two sides began to fight against the Qing army, they were defeated, and the Eight-Nation Coalition Army disarmed a lot of advanced **.

For example, tens of thousands of Mauser rifles, heavy machine guns, company guns, and even powerful cannons. These ** equipment are not inferior to the Eight-Nation Alliance, and they still have a certain advantage in numbers, but they allowed the other side to occupy the capital in only 56 days. Seeing this, do you still think it's the gap of **?

Secondly, the real gap is actually the backwardness of the level of training, because most of the Qing army did not conduct military exercises in advance, and even if they had good equipment, the vast majority of the Qing army would not use it at all. In the war, although the Qing army also tried to fight back, they couldn't hit the enemy at all when they used guns, so even if they had a good **, it was useless.

In the end, it is because people's hearts are sluggish. You must know that at that time, there was no military command capable of conducting modern operations, and the thinking of most commanders was still stuck in the past, and they were simply unable to adapt to the modern battlefield. Without qualified generals, the soldiers below are like scattered sand, and after the war starts, all they can do is defend passively.

In addition, Cixi fled from the battle, so that many people did not want to resist at all, and directly chose to disarm and surrender.

I don't think this is mainly because of the gap in the first class, but also because the training level of the Qing army at that time was relatively backward, there were no qualified commanders, and they were disheartened.

First of all, please ask the 110,000 Qing troops who came, did you learn from Sun Wukong?!?

Yes, definitely. Because at that time, China was very backward, and it couldn't even take out a decent pistol, but it was completely carried by manpower.

The army of the late Qing Dynasty quelled the million-strong army of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom internally, why couldn't it defeat the more than 2,000 people of the Eight-Nation Alliance? First of all, the strength of the Eight-Nation Coalition has been changing, more than 2,000 people were just at the beginning, and later the coalition army increased to more than 30,000 troops.

In the northeast, there were 170,000 Tsarist Russian troops moving south at the same time, and it can be said that the Eight-Nation Coalition at that time, including the Tsarist Russian Regiment, was not just 2,000 people, but 200,000 troops. At the same time, a large-scale offensive was launched from the northeast and Tianjin, and the real elite force of the Qing army was the 5 armies of the Wuwei Army with 60,000 men.

There are also 30,000 troops such as Shenji in the northeast, with a total of 9-100,000 new troops with modern ** and training. The Nie Shicheng troops of the Wuwei Army fought the most resolutely, mainly in the Battle of Tianjin and the coalition forces, the other two Wuwei troops were defeated in Langfang and Tongxian, and one was Yuan Shikai's department, which ran to Shandong to hide.

The 5 armies of the Wuwei Army failed 4 in the Eight-Nation Coalition War, and the 30,000 people including the Shenji Battalion in the northeast also failed, and in the end, only Yuan Shikai's department was completely retained, which also led to the expansion of Yuan Shikai's strength in the end.

As for the Taiping Army, at that time, the Qing Dynasty thief Hui Hui introduced that in fact, the Taiping Army did not have any martial arts, but they were particularly united, fighting to the death, and could endure hunger. Once the Qing army released its firearms, they lay on the ground, and the gunfire was a little sparse, and they dared to charge bravely.

However, this tactic encountered the Huai army, which was all equipped with foreign guns, and the Hunan army, which liked to build earthen walls and equipped with a large number of swords and spearmen to protect the firearms bearers, obviously did not work. Therefore, the last hundreds of thousands of Taiping troops could not defeat more than 100,000 Hunan and Huai troops.

It is also a reason that the 200,000 Taiping army in Tianjing could not defeat the 30,000 Hunan army to relieve the siege of Tianjing, especially in the later period, the Taiping army's hand-to-hand combat ability declined very much, and it relied very much on foreign guns, but the number of foreign guns was not as good as the Qing army, especially the Qing army also had foreign artillery, and the Taiping army's failure was well understood.

Lag... It's not because of the Eight-Nation Alliance, during the Eight-Nation Alliance, the Qing army's ** had been purchased from the West in large quantities, and there were no tanks, planes and other technical equipment at that time, artillery, machine guns and rifles were at the same level as the West.

It is the backwardness of the overall civilization, and it is normal for the feudal dynasty ruled by the barbarians to lose to the modern civilization.

First of all, we have to make it clear that the Qing Dynasty wanted the Western powers to fight to the end, did the Western powers want to overthrow the Qing Dynasty? In addition to the ambitions of Japan and Russia, other countries have never been, they hope to cooperate with the dynasty, so that the dynasty can open the country, and the most important thing is to obtain monopoly market profits for themselves, since they are all for business, why should they fight to the end?

Why can the Qing ** be willing to contact foreigners for a long time, and even stand on the side of foreigners. Because they are only here to take advantage, and the insiders, especially the people at the bottom, want to seize power.