The real strength of the Eight Nation Coalition is 220,000 troops, not 20,000! Is it excusable that

Updated on history 2024-07-15
28 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-12

    It is said that when the Eight-Nation Coalition invaded China, it successfully invaded Beijing with only 20,000 troops, and there was not even any **, which is actually not accurate. In general, the real strength of the Eight-Nation Alliance is actually 220,000 troops, but I feel that the defeat of the Qing army is not excusable, in the final analysis, it is caused by internal factors, and it is related to the Qing ** itself. <>

    In order to suppress the Boxer Rebellion and gain more benefits in China, the eight countries united to launch a war of aggression against China, violating China's sovereignty and seizing China's territory. Unable to bear it anymore, Cixi declared war on the Eight-Nation Alliance. At the beginning, the Eight-Nation Coalition only sent only more than 2,000 people to invade, and after the failure, the Eight-Nation Coalition Army became angry and formed more than 20,000 troops to launch an attack, from the southeast coastal area all the way up, to Beijing, and the Qing army was defeated.

    At that time, the Qing army was definitely more than just 20,000 troops, but the reason why it lost so badly was because Tsarist Russia arranged for more than 170,000 troops to invade Northeast China at that time, with a total of 220,000 people. <>

    Although the Eight-Nation Alliance had a crushing advantage, under the poison of feudal ideology, the Qing army desperately tried to save the rule of the Qing Dynasty and made great efforts. When the city of Beijing was attacked, the Qing army rose up to resist, causing the Eight-Nation Alliance to pay the price and lose part of its troops. Originally, victory was expected, but when she heard that the Eight-Nation Coalition had invaded Beijing, Cixi was very panicked and ran away with the emperor directly.

    After hearing that Cixi had fled, the army was disheartened and passive in battle, and soon could not resist the attack of the Eight-Nation Alliance. <>

    However, it is felt that the Qing army could not resist the Eight-Nation Alliance, which cannot be explained by "extenuating circumstances", and the Communist Party used fewer troops to achieve the greatest victory in order to resist Japan. At the time of the civil war between the Kuomintang and the Communist Party, the Communists were at a disadvantage, but in the end they defeated the Kuomintang. So this is related to the Qing ** itself, it is the Qing ** itself that is too corrupt, does not want to make progress, is greedy for pleasure, and has poor combat effectiveness, so that it will lose this battle and make this history a shame for China.

    We must not forget the national humiliation and keep China firmly in mind, just to keep in mind the fact that "if you are backward, you will be beaten."

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-11

    I think it's understandable, because at that time China was very backward, and the combat effectiveness of the army was relatively weak, and it was not particularly advanced.

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-10

    At that time, it was understandable that the Qing army could not stop the Eight-Nation Alliance. And the main reason for this consequence is that Qing ** is too weak and has no responsibility.

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-09

    If it is really 220,000 troops, then it is indeed excusable, after all, the materials of the Qing Dynasty at that time were relatively backward, and the number of people was not as large as the other party.

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-08

    The defeat of the Qing army was not very related to ** on the whole, but the politics of the imperial court dragged the front line to a considerable extent. Strategically, Cixi blindly declared war on 11 major powers, including the Eight-Nation Alliance, but never seriously made arrangements and deployments at the strategic level. Although the Qing army was numerous, it did not have a unified commander and lacked a unified and rigorous staff system.

    This put the Qing army in a situation of fighting on its own from the beginning. In terms of tactics, the Qing army can also get out of the neat and beautiful queue during training with advanced **, but due to the clumsy tactics, they will still inevitably be beaten passively when they reach actual combat. The Qing army was a mess in terms of ammunition management.

    On the surface, the ** equipment of the Qing army does not seem to lag behind, but when they go to the battlefield, they find that the ammunition prepared in advance does not match the ** model used. There is no doubt that this, of course, will greatly affect the combat efficiency of the Qing army. The confusion in the management of ammunition is only a microcosm of the many shortcomings of the Qing army:

    Although the Qing army was equipped with seemingly advanced hot weapons, its military concepts, command system, and logistical supply were completely stuck in the era of cold weapons. Most of the temporarily recruited armies were made up of idle people. These armies of smokers, thieves, gamblers, etc., have little training, so they tend to collapse at the touch of an enemy when faced on the battlefield.

    The improvised Qing soldiers may have been peasants carrying hoes the day before. These untrained peasants may be asked to fight with guns on their shoulders the next day. Such a unit lacks rigorous training, lacks the tempering of exercises, and lacks the cultivation of military qualities.

    How could such hastily recruited troops not be scattered in the face of a well-trained enemy? Although the Qing army was equipped with a new style, it still used the old-fashioned military system. In the Qing army, only Wu Weijun had learned Western-style training methods, but even Wu Weijun had only learned the surface.

  6. Anonymous users2024-02-07

    Because the Qing army's strength was distributed in Beijing and Tianjin, the numerical advantage was not as great as the inherent impression, and the equipment of the first class was varied, so it would be a fiasco.

  7. Anonymous users2024-02-06

    Because it was not good, everyone was advanced and modern at that time, and the Qing army was still traditional, and the army did not carry out modern training, and its combat effectiveness was very low.

  8. Anonymous users2024-02-05

    Although the total strength of the Eight-Nation Coalition was more than 49,000, the actual troops attacking Tianjin and Beijing were more than 16,000. The largest number of them was more than 8,000 Japanese troops, in addition to 5,000 Russian troops, 3,000 British troops, 2,000 American troops, and 800 French troops. The Qing army on the front line of Pingjin is about 100,000 people, most of which are armed guards with advanced equipment.

  9. Anonymous users2024-02-04

    The number of the Eight-Nation Coalition is constantly increasing, and in the decisive war the Eight-Nation Coalition has 220,000 troops, and they have an advantage in terms of strength, coupled with external factors and advanced **, the defeat of the Qing army has been accelerated.

  10. Anonymous users2024-02-03

    In fact, their troops are not particularly large, but our country is relatively backward in terms of seclusion, and in terms of the use of **, no one else is advanced.

  11. Anonymous users2024-02-02

    The Wanqing army was defeated and retreated, and the real strength of the Eight-Nation Alliance was about 200,000.

  12. Anonymous users2024-02-01

    The Qing Dynasty's equipment was backward, and at the same time, the whole country, from civilians to **, when they heard the invasion of foreigners, they did not fight, but were afraid and fled, which was bound to fail.

  13. Anonymous users2024-01-31

    Although the Eight-Nation Coalition Army has only a few thousand people, their equipment is relatively advanced, and their army has undergone professional training and is prepared for a war of aggression against China.

  14. Anonymous users2024-01-30

    That's because the combat effectiveness of the Qing army was too weak. The gap is particularly large.

  15. Anonymous users2024-01-29

    The Qing army of 110,000 people can't beat the foreign team of 20,000 people, mainly because it is not advanced, and it is obvious which one will win if one is armed with spears and knives and the other is driven by tanks and guns.

  16. Anonymous users2024-01-28

    First of all, the Eight-Nation Coalition entered China. **The difference is very large. Referring to the Qing army. Low morale. No fighting spirit!

  17. Anonymous users2024-01-27

    The main reason was that the Qing Dynasty was corrupt and could not form a joint force against the Eight-Nation Alliance.

  18. Anonymous users2024-01-26

    Although the Qing Dynasty had hundreds of thousands of soldiers and horses, none of these soldiers and horses had relatively strong strength, and some of the ** used by the Eight-Nation Alliance were very advanced, so they defeated all the hundreds of thousands of soldiers and horses of the Qing Dynasty.

  19. Anonymous users2024-01-25

    This was mainly due to the impact of the defeat, which also affected the morale of the army and also made them dare not resist.

  20. Anonymous users2024-01-24

    **There is not much gap, mainly because of the backward level of training, the lack of qualified commanders, and the lack of morale. I believe that every Chinese person knows about the invasion of China by the Eight-Nation Alliance, and you must know that the enemy at that time only had more than 20,000 troops, and the number of Qing troops together reached about 110,000. Some people say it's because of the gap in **, but it's not that simple.

    First of all, the Qing Dynasty had already introduced a large number of advanced Western ** at that time. For example, in the 1988 Sino-French War, the Qing army used firearms on the battlefield, and in the First Sino-Japanese War, Japan's equipment even lagged behind ours. As soon as the two sides began to fight against the Qing army, they were defeated, and the Eight-Nation Coalition Army disarmed a lot of advanced **.

    For example, tens of thousands of Mauser rifles, heavy machine guns, company guns, and even powerful cannons. These ** equipment are not inferior to the Eight-Nation Alliance, and they still have a certain advantage in numbers, but they allowed the other side to occupy the capital in only 56 days. Seeing this, do you still think it's the gap of **?

    Secondly, the real gap is actually the backwardness of the level of training, because most of the Qing army did not conduct military exercises in advance, and even if they had good equipment, the vast majority of the Qing army would not use it at all. In the war, although the Qing army also tried to fight back, they couldn't hit the enemy at all when they used guns, so even if they had a good **, it was useless.

    In the end, it is because people's hearts are sluggish. You must know that at that time, there was no military command capable of conducting modern operations, and the thinking of most commanders was still stuck in the past, and they were simply unable to adapt to the modern battlefield. Without qualified generals, the soldiers below are like scattered sand, and after the war starts, all they can do is defend passively.

    In addition, Cixi fled from the battle, so that many people did not want to resist at all, and directly chose to disarm and surrender.

  21. Anonymous users2024-01-23

    I don't think this is mainly because of the gap in the first class, but also because the training level of the Qing army at that time was relatively backward, there were no qualified commanders, and they were disheartened.

  22. Anonymous users2024-01-22

    First of all, please ask the 110,000 Qing troops who came, did you learn from Sun Wukong?!?

  23. Anonymous users2024-01-21

    Yes, definitely. Because at that time, China was very backward, and it couldn't even take out a decent pistol, but it was completely carried by manpower.

  24. Anonymous users2024-01-20

    In fact, many people will feel very angry when they see this incident, because at that time, there were more than 80,000 official participants in the Qing Dynasty, and there were more than 300,000 Boxers alone. That is to say, there are more than 380,000 people who can participate in the battle, but the total number of people who participated in the war before and after the Eight-Nation Alliance is only more than 50,000, and the gap between the two sides is so big, so why did the Qing ** at that time still lose and even be forced to sign so many shameful treaties? At that time, some people speculated that it was because the Qing Dynasty's army was very backward, including those Boxers, they only had big swords, and they didn't have much combat effectiveness at all.

    But in fact, it is not like this, the equipment of the Qing ** at that time was really not as bad as we imagined, because after the Opium War at that time, the army has always paid special attention to these **. So from this point, we can see that the Qing Dynasty did not win the Eight-Nation Coalition and had no substantial relationship with the number of people, so the problem was what? The main problem is actually because those people have already been scared, although his army is very numerous, but he is too scared, so he doesn't know what to do, as the saying goes, if you have lost in your heart, then you will not be able to win again.

    And at that time, the attitude of the Qing ** towards the Boxers was not particularly good, they asked everyone to encircle and suppress the Boxers for a while, and then asked everyone to support the Boxers. Therefore, the relationship between the Boxers and the Qing army was not particularly good, and the two sides were not particularly close. If the two sides can unite against the Eight-Nation Alliance, they can definitely win this time, but they are eager to fight in the civil war, how can they deal with the Eight-Nation Alliance?

    Moreover, the Empress Dowager Cixi was also selfish, and he wanted to consolidate his position through the Boxers. At that time, Qing ** can be said to be a mess, so the result will be like this. <>

  25. Anonymous users2024-01-19

    Although the Qing army had an advantage in numbers, its equipment was relatively backward, its morale was also very low, and the generals who led the troops lacked the determination to resist the enemy, and they also took the lead in fleeing, which eventually led to the Qing army's defeat and retreat, and did not win the war.

  26. Anonymous users2024-01-18

    Because the Qing army at that time was already scared, and there were already seeds of fear in their hearts, they were too cowardly, so even if the other side only had 50,000 people, they could not defeat the other party.

  27. Anonymous users2024-01-17

    Although there were a large number of people, the Qing court had already lost confidence and lost its morale after so many years of defeat. After the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom, all localities supported their own troops, and ** had lost their control. In the later Westernization Movement, everyone thought that the Great Qing Kingdom would be able to regain its strength, but it was defeated by Japan, a small island of projectiles, and everyone's hearts collapsed.

    Therefore, by the invasion of the Eight-Nation Coalition in the year of Gengzi, although the Qing Dynasty had a large number of people, everyone did not know why they were fighting, everyone had their own little abacus, and I was defending my territory, not the country. How can such a state be undefeated? As the saying goes, the people do not know that there is a country, and the country is no longer a country.

    Therefore, an army without faith will not be able to fight! Look at the War to Resist US Aggression and Aid Korea, the Volunteer Army is at a disadvantage in every item, but it still defeats the US Army, this is the difference!

  28. Anonymous users2024-01-16

    Answer: Because at that time, the Qing **** equipment and the Eight-Nation Alliance's equipment were very different, and the trapped people had already made bullets from the gunpowder invented by the four major Chinese inventions, and used guns to shoot a long distance, and they had great impact and lethality, and also used gunpowder to make various types of shells, and the Qing Dynasty was still dominated by Changmao broadsword at that time, and there was a fragment in the movie "Burning Yuanmingyuan" that was the most true historical portrayal at that time, which is really sad.

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