Whether the Tatars and Varat were Mongols or not

The Mongolian Ming Dynasty was divided into Warat and Tatar, Warat is Western Mongolia, that is, Oirat Mongolia, Oirat is divided into four major departments: Dzungar, Heshute, Dulbert, Turgot, Later, after Dzungaria became strong, Shute, Dulbert, and Turghut were forced to move west to the Volga River to become "Kalmyks", and the Qing Dynasty eliminated the Dzungar Department.

Later, a part of the Kalmyks returned to China.

The term "Tatar" in the Ming Dynasty of China refers to eastern Mongolia ruled by Arutai.

Safin was a Kazan-Tatar, Genghis Khan of the XIII century.

His grandson Batu stretched from the lower reaches of the Danube River in the west to Central Asia in the east.

The region established a powerful Kipchak Khanate or Golden Horde, which was incorporated into the Golden Horde during this period by the various Turkic tribes, the Huns, the Bolgars, and the Mongols, who were a minority of the westward migration, combined linguistically and culturally to form the Tatars, which were divided into Kazan Tatars, Astrakhan Tatars, and Crimea.

Tatar, Siberia.

Tatar. The Mongols themselves were also divided into the Niren Mongols and the Dierejin Mongols. Their origins are also different. Many of the Mongol tribes were originally Turkic tribes or Xianbei.

Tribe. So objectively speaking, Safin's ancestors were mainly Turkic Kipchaks, and there was very little Mongolian ancestry, so naturally he didn't look like a Mongol.

If you study the origins of the Khamli, Kipchak, and Mongols, as well as their development into Tatars, Kazakhs, and Uzbeks after different mixtures from the 13th century to the 17th century, I believe you will have a clearer understanding of this.

Both the Tatars (Eastern Mongolia) and the Warat (Western Mongolia) of the Ming Dynasty were Mongols, but there were slight differences between the two: the Tatar chieftains were from the Genghis Khan family, while the Warat chieftains had different surnames, and the dialects used in Eastern and Western Mongolia were also different. In the late Ming and early Qing dynasties, Tatar was called "Southern Mongolia" and "Northern Mongolia", that is, Inner Mongolia and Outer Mongolia, respectively, and Warat was called "Erut" or "Oirat", that is, "Western Mongolia".

Both Warat and Tatar originated in Mongolia, but during the Ming Dynasty Warat was Mongolian; The Tatars were the so-called Jurchen tribes, and the Qing Nurhachi changed the Jurchen to Manchuria, established the Later Jin, and Huang Taiji changed the Later Jin to the Great Qing.

Tatar and Vala are the equivalent of the Great Song or Ming Dynasty in China.

Tatar is a general name for the Turks and the Mongols, but the Tatars were the first steppe tribes in the north, and the Mongolian ancestor Temujin had an enmity with the Tatars, and later after unification, the Tatars became a tribe of the Mongols, and Tatar was the collective name of the Mongols by the Han people at that time.

It is called this thing because the Mongolian pronunciation in Mongolian is like this. Therefore, it can be called transliteration. It's another amazing thing.

Because this is also a northern nomadic people, similar to the Mongols. We have the impression that they are Mongols. But in the eyes of the Mongols, they are not the same as themselves.

Originally, he did not refer to Mongolia, but to a nomadic people in northern China in ancient times, and as this tribe grew stronger, it gradually became the collective name of the ethnic groups of the Mongolian plateau. Become one of the ** Mongols.

In fact, it is the difference between geography and country, and people don't use the name, just like corn and bud rice, screwdriver and cone changer, they are all the same thing, but the name is different.

If the tartar is Mongolian, I fear that many people are vague. To solve this problem, take a look"Tataral"The earliest record in the history books was in the Song Dynasty, when the Song Dynasty had a book called "Miscellaneous Records of the Court and the Opposition since the Establishment of Yan", which was recorded as follows: "The Tatar people are brave and good at fighting, and those who are close to the Han land are called familiar Tatars, can plant forests, and cook them in flat-bottomed tile kettles and eat them."

Those who are far away are called Tatars, and they stop shooting and hunting for a living. ”In short, from the Song Dynasty onwards, Tatar was a general term for the steppe nomads of the Central Plains Dynasty.

Therefore, in the eyes of the Chinese, Tatar is just another term for the Mongols, and there is no essential difference between them. For example, in the Ming Dynasty, Zhu Yuanjian led a peasant uprising and drove out the rulers of the Yuan Dynasty, the Ming Dynasty called Genghis Khan's descendant of the Northern Yuan Dynasty and the steppe tribes in the eastern part of the Mongolian Plateau under his rule as "Tatar", although there was the name of Warat in the western part of the Mongolian Plateau at that time, but Tatar and Warat, in the eyes of the Ming Dynasty, are actually Mongolians.

The Russian Tatar language belongs to the Turkic ethnic group. In addition to this difference from the Mongolian lineage, they are also very different from the Mongolian authentic in the genealogy. At that time, the Golden Horde continued to merge with the local population, so a new Tatar people appeared.

Today, the Tatars living in Russia are the largest ethnic minority in the country, with a population of five millionAnd the Mongols in the traditional sense are no longer the same concept.

The Tatars are Mongols, and the reason why Russia says that they are not Mongols is because they want to become an independent people.

In terms of the title of the nation, there are various different names because of the difference in geography or country. For example, the Dai people in our country are called the Thai people here in Thailand, in fact, the two names are just different names, they are actually the names of the same people in different regions.

There is still a difference between the Russians and the Mongols, he is only one of them, so Russia does not say that it is the Mongols.

The Dada is a Mongol, but Russia says that he is not a Mongol, and can only say that he is a type of Mongol.

Because the Russians consider Mongolia their own. The Tatars in Russia are the largest ethnic minority in Russia, with a population of 5 million, and the traditional Mongols are no longer the same concept.

In fact, the Tatars are Mongols, but Russia says that they are not Mongols, mainly because the names of each place are different.

This is also because the geographical location of the two countries is different, so people call it differently. Each place has its own name.

Mainly because there are various different names in the name of the nation, because of the difference in geography or country.

Walla, the Yuan Dynasty called 斡也剌ti, the Ming Dynasty called Wǎlà wǎlā, the Qing Dynasty called Oirat, Moxi Mongolia, etc.

Tatar, the name of Tatar, began in the Tang Dynasty. However, the word Tatar has already appeared in the Northern and Southern Dynasties, when it originated from the alias of Rouran, Datan, Tantan, and the Northern Qi and Sui dynasties knew Tatar through Murwei. There are nine Tatars to the west of Yinshan Mountain, and thirty Tatars to Hulunbuir.

They are considered to be the remnants of the Rouran.

The rise of the Tatars predates the Mongols. After the rule of the Khitans of the Liao Dynasty and the Jurchens of the Jin Dynasty, most of the Tatars merged into the forming Mongols and became one of the main ** of the Mongol nation. The ancient Tatars were a multi-ethnic tribal group of Turkic-speaking and Mongolian-speaking tribes.

The Turkic-speaking Tatars migrated westward on two routes, one in the Volga valley and the other in the Yenisei valley. The Tatars who moved to the Volga valley combined with the Turkic-speaking Kipchaks and Volga Bulgarians to form today's Kazan Tatars, while the Tatars who remained in the Yenisei River merged with the local Altaicians and Khakassians to form the Siberian Yenisei Tatars. The Tatars who moved to Russia after Genghis Khan's conquest were around the end of the Southern Song Dynasty in China.

Tatar in a broad sense includes the Murowei, the common people in the forest, and the Wangu tribe.

Broadly speaking, they are the same people. But not a pure ** family. It is the in-laws of the ** family.

Two tribes of one nation.

Varat is a branch of the Tatars.

They are the same people, but they are all different tribes of the Mongolian people.

It is the same people, two branches.

Strictly speaking, no.

Mongolia itself is a mixture of the Xiongnu, Xianbei, Rouran, Turkic, Khitan, Jurchen and even the remnants of the Han Chinese and the Mongols.

During the Ming Dynasty, the Tatars and the Watts were the same people, two tribes of the Mongols.

Hello. During the Ming Dynasty, the Mongols were divided into two tribes, Tatar and Warat, so Warat was a branch of the Mongol people.

Mongolia in the Yuan Dynasty was the predecessor of Warat in the Ming Dynasty.

No, Warat is a descendant of Mongolia.

It belongs to a sub-tribe of Mongolia.

In the Ming Dynasty, the Mongols were divided into two major tribes, the Wara [ wǎ là ] and the Tatar [dá dá].

1. Warat refers to Western Mongolia, that is, Oirat Mongolia, Oirat is divided into four major departments: Dzungaria, Heshute, Dulbert, and Turgot, and later after Dzungaria became strong, Shut, Dulbert, and Turghut were forced to move west to the Volga River to become "Kalmyks", and after the Qing Dynasty eliminated the Dzungar Department, some Kalmyks returned to China.

"Tatar" refers to eastern Mongolia ruled by Arutai.

2. The leaders of the Tatar tribes are all from the Genghis Khan family, and the leaders of Warat are of different surnames.

They often have a vendetta against each other. Later, Varat became powerful and defeated the Tatars.

It can be understood as the relationship between North and South Korea.

Tatar actually refers to the nomadic people of northern China, so until now, everyone has expressed great confusion about the relationship between the Tatars and the Mongols。In fact, the Tatars and the Mongols are not related to each other, the Tatars and the Mongols are completely different peoples, and the meaning between the two cannot be equated.

Before Temujin really unified the Mongolian steppe, in fact, Tatar cloth had appeared at the very beginning, about the fifth century AD in the Northern and Southern Dynasties, so at that time the northern steppe overlord was still called Tatar. Therefore, some people think that the word Tatar actually evolved from that period.

Then at the end of the Northern and Southern Dynasties and the Sui Dynasty, in fact, the Tatars were also mentioned in the relevant records at that time. Then the Tatars were actually a completely different people from the Mongols at that time, and the Tatars began as the remnants of the army after the decline of Rouran. Then the last Mongol, on the eve of his rise, the main opponent of this army of Temujin in the steppe was the Tatar army.

And after the Tatars were finally suppressed by Temu, they also completely became his rulers. Because at that time, there were actually two different groups in the steppe, the Mongols and the Tatars, and after the decline of Rouran, in fact, the overall situation of the Tatars was not very good. Therefore, in the later years, in the face of the invasion of the Mongols led by Temujin, they were powerless.

Then in the end, he also became a defeated subordinate of Temujin, and finally became the ruled.

To put it bluntly, the Tatars migrated from Europe, and the Mongols were Asian.

Descendants of the Mongols and Turks. Tatars (Tatars) generally consider themselves to be of Mongol descent, so they are considered Turkicized Mongols.

In modern times, "Tatar" has become the name of a nation completely different from "Mongolia", so it has basically nothing to do with the meaning of "Mongolia".

The Mongols were the indigenous people of the steppes, while the Tatars were white people who migrated to the Mongolian plateau.

There is no special relationship between the Tatars and the Mongols, they are different races.

The Tatars were white people who migrated eastward to the Mongolian plateau. The Mongols are of the yellow race, so naturally they are different.

The Tatars and Mongols are not related in any way and are not the same race.

In the Ming Dynasty, the Mongols were divided into two major tribes, the Wara [ wǎ là ] and the Tatar [dá dá].

1. Warat refers to Western Mongolia, that is, Oirat Mongolia, Oirat is divided into four major departments: Dzungaria, Heshute, Dulbert, and Turgot, and later after Dzungaria became strong, Shut, Dulbert, and Turghut were forced to move west to the Volga River to become "Kalmyks", and after the Qing Dynasty eliminated the Dzungar Department, some Kalmyks returned to China.

"Tatar" refers to eastern Mongolia ruled by Arutai.

2. The leaders of the Tatar tribes are all from the Genghis Khan family, and the leaders of Warat are of different surnames.

They often have a vendetta against each other. Later, Varat became powerful and defeated the Tatars.

It can be understood as the relationship between North and South Korea.