Some people say that Zhou Yu s failure in the world is the beginning of the defeat of Eastern Wu, is

Updated on history 2024-02-20
32 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-06

    The content of Zhou Yu's world bidivision is to "destroy Shu and Lianma, and go north to attack Cao", specifically to destroy Shu, occupy Yizhou and Jingzhou, and then unite with Ma Chao to attack Cao Cao in the north. I think it is reasonable to say that the failure of Zhou Yu's plan was the beginning of the defeat of Eastern Wu, because since the failure of the plan, the best strategy was to unite Shu against Cao Wei, and when Shu Han perished, Eastern Wu was also tired.

    In a war, if the confrontation is between two countries, then the comparison is whose strategy is better and whose military strength is stronger; If it is more than one country, then it is necessary to consider more factors, play the game, and get the most solution.

    The three-legged situation of Wei, Shu and Wu during the Three Kingdoms period was the latter, and each country had to consider the next direction and intention of the third party in the process of choosing to fight against one of them.

    What is more important is to choose a strategy based on your own reality. From this point of view, when Liu Bei visited the thatched house, Zhuge Liang tailored the grand ambition of "three points of the world" for him. It turns out that the time when Shu Han was at its strongest was not more than that.

    And Zhou Yu set Sun Quan a dichotomy of the world, that is, Eastern Wu first annexed Yizhou, and then confronted Cao Cao. This makes sense, because only by occupying Yizhou will the south be flat; If Yizhou is not occupied, it is necessary to look forward and backward in terms of strategic release. And Yizhou and Jingzhou echo each other, Jingzhou is the west gate of Soochow, if you don't take Yizhou, Jingzhou will inevitably become a hole in your own defense.

    History has proved Zhou Yu right.

    After the Battle of Chibi, Liu Bei went to Yizhou, and coupled with Zhou Yu's untimely death, Eastern Wu stopped in capturing Yizhou. can only retreat to the next best, and Shu and Wei divided the world. A few years later, after Cao Wei and Sima destroyed Shu Han, they went south along the Yangtze River and captured Jingzhou, and the passive appearance of Eastern Wu was vividly and vividly, so Zhou Yu's failure to divide the world was the beginning of the decline of Eastern Wu.

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-05

    The failure of Zhou Yu's bisect of the world was the beginning of the defeat of Eastern Wu, and I think it is reasonable. For Soochow, losing the central part of Jingzhou is a very dangerous thing.

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-04

    Zhou Yu's failure in the world is the beginning of the defeat of Eastern Wu, I think this sentence is correct, for Eastern Wu, losing the central part of Jingzhou is very dangerous.

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-03

    This statement is reasonable, because Zhou Yu's failure to divide the world directly lost Jingzhou, which made the defense of Eastern Wu in the future more difficult.

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-02

    Because the upstream town is an important part of the Wu State, and if Dongwu loses it, he will lose the Yangtze River, so the failure of the world's bisect is the beginning of the defeat of Dongwu.

  6. Anonymous users2024-02-01

    The failure of Zhou Yu's world bicent, which led to the loss of central Jingzhou, was very dangerous for the state of Wu, which plunged the state of Wu into a crisis, that is, the beginning of the defeat of Eastern Wu.

  7. Anonymous users2024-01-31

    It is reasonable that Jingzhou is an important town in the upper reaches, and if Dongwu loses it, it is equivalent to losing the Yangtze River, but in the early founding strategy of Dongwu, Jingzhou is not important. The failure of the world's two divisions caused Jingzhou to be lost, and Soochow lost a major barrier.

  8. Anonymous users2024-01-30

    The failure of Zhou Yu's world bicentric led to the loss of Jingzhou, which caused Eastern Wu to lose a major barrier, which can be said to be the beginning of decline.

  9. Anonymous users2024-01-29

    It can be said to be a fuse, but it is not really the main reason, there is still a little truth in this statement, and it is not completely nonsense.

  10. Anonymous users2024-01-28

    Personally, I think there are, because at that time, the three forces were balanced, and anyone who wanted to dominate the world would be the first to die.

  11. Anonymous users2024-01-27

    I don't think so, if Zhou Yu had become the lord of Jiangdong, Liu Bei would have been destroyed a long time ago, and he would have been annexed by Cao Cao in the end, and it would be impossible to have three points of the world.

  12. Anonymous users2024-01-26

    It seems to be Lu Su's, because he may not even be able to keep Dongwu when he is in Chibi.

  13. Anonymous users2024-01-25

    Because he didn't take Liu Bei seriously, he suffered a loss.

  14. Anonymous users2024-01-24

    I think the landlord overestimated Zhou Yu.

  15. Anonymous users2024-01-23

    "Two parts of the world", and Cao Cao's confrontation between the north and the south! This is Zhou Yu's strategic thinking planned for Soochow!

    Long before Cao Cao went south, when Liu Biao was not dead! Soochow has been eyeing Jingzhou before!

    Zhou Yusheng captured Deng Long, as well as the second battle against Jiang Xia, and finally broke Huang Zu and so on! All this shows that Liu Biao is not Sun Quan's opponent at all, and it is only a matter of time before Jingzhou returns to Eastern Wu! However, there was a problem of Cao Cao going south, which led to sudden changes!

    So, the first question is anti-Cao! It was Lu Su who went to find Liu Bei first, and then Liu Bei asked Zhuge Liang to go to Jiangdong to "return the gift"! Finally, the Sun-Liu Alliance! Including the victory of the water battle in Chibi, and Huang Gai's plan, Zhou Yu's planning, Wulin's fire attack, and the pursuit of the Sun-Liu Alliance!

    Also, the capture of Nanjun! All this indicates that strategy and history are developing in accordance with the advantages of Soochow!

    However, there is another change! is Liu Bei's problem, Liu Bei is also very "longing" for Jingzhou! And Zhou Yu's vision of "people's hearts" is indeed more accurate than Sun Quan and Cao Cao!

    Liu Bei's existence is an "obstacle" in Zhou Yu's strategic thinking! When Zhou Yu was unable to attack Nanjun, Liu Bei took the opportunity to occupy the four counties of Jingnan, but these four counties were poorly developed and had low strategic value!

    Therefore, Zhou Yu also persuaded Sun Quan to put Liu Bei under house arrest, even if he was not destroyed, he would also control Liu Beijun in name and strength!

    However, Sun Quan gave up this strategy! In the end, after Chibi, Liu Bei took advantage of the cheap and ate all the sweetness!

    And Zhou Yu has Nanjun and Yiling in his hands, and he completely called the gateway to Shu for Eastern Wu!

    Zhou Yu can go directly by waterway without passing through the dangerous terrain of Xichuan, go upstream, and go straight into the White Emperor City into the interior of Xichuan!

    The generals of Soochow, the soldiers of Soochow, the commanders of Soochow! Undoubtedly quite strong!

    Look at Liu Zhang, the incompetent monarch, the benevolent and righteous seem to be very stupid! Mutinous subordinates!

    In short, Soochow has an advantage over Xichuan, strength, talent and other aspects!

    Because Zhou Yu passed away at this critical moment, I can only make many assumptions to explain it!

    Eastern Wu entered Shu, there is no doubt that Liu Bei is a key!

    No matter how hypothetical it is, Liu Bei only has 2 choices!

    1, stab Zhou Yu in the back!

    Then Liu Bei is looking for death! Zhou Yu can go back to the division to fight back, and Sun Quan is not a vegetarian! Under the left and right attacks, Liu Bei is not looking for death?

    It's a big deal, let's end up together, let Cao Cao unify the world, I think, Liu Bei starts from his own interests, he won't be so stupid! Even if he succeeds, then he doesn't want to enter Shu, won't Sun Quan stab him too? If the Sun-Liu alliance collapses, it will not benefit anyone!

    Another point, Zhou Yu is quite accurate in his opinion, he will not give Liu Bei a chance to stab! He must have had his own plan, however, he passed away at that critical moment, and if I continue to assume, it will not be realistic!

    2, in the name of the Union Army, continue to pick up cheap!

    This should be the most and practical! In this way, there is naturally no harm in Soochow!

    In short, for Liu Bei, Zhou Yu always has to deal with him! That is, he died early, and Liu Bei was cheaper!

  16. Anonymous users2024-01-22

    It doesn't seem to have been mentioned in the Sun Ce period, but it was mentioned in the Sun Quan period.

    That seems to be Zhou Yu's last strategy, and the original words of the Three Kingdoms Chronicles are "Now Cao Cao's new fold, Fang is worried in his heart, and he has not been able to deal with the general." Begging and fenwei are both enterprising to Shu, and Zhang Lu is in Shu, because he stays in Fenwei to stick to his place, so as to help Ma Chao. Yu also worked with the general to take Xiang Yang to Qi Cao, and the north can also be mapped.

    In short, Zhou Yu's strategy can be summed up as "destroying Shu and horses, and going north to attack Cao".

  17. Anonymous users2024-01-21

    Zhou Yu (175-210) was a native of Shu County, Lujiang (now southwest of Lujiang County, Anhui Province). During the Battle of Chibi, in order to fool Cao Cao, Zhou Yu decided to use the bitter meat meter. Huang Gai took the lead bravely, so at the military meeting, Huang Gai pretended to disagree with Zhou Yu, and even made contemptuous remarks.

    So Zhou Yu ordered Huang Gai to be beheaded, the generals pleaded hard, Zhou Yu changed the punishment to flogging, and beat Huang Gai to bedridden. This is exactly what Cai Mao Zhang Yun who defrauded Wu Ying, so Kan Ze offered Huang Gai a letter of deception, and Cai Mao Zhang Yun happened to send this false information back to Cao Ying, Cao Cao was convinced, so that the later Chibi fiasco.

    Huang Gai took the lead bravely, so at the military meeting, Huang Gai pretended to disagree with Zhou Yu, and even made contemptuous remarks. So Zhou Yu ordered Huang Gai to be beheaded, the generals pleaded hard, Zhou Yu changed the punishment to flogging, and beat Huang Gai to bedridden. This is exactly what Cai Mao Zhang Yun who defrauded Wu Ying, so Kan Ze offered Huang Gai a letter of deception, and Cai Mao Zhang Yun happened to send this false information back to Cao Ying, Cao Cao was convinced, so that the later Chibi fiasco.

    Zhou Yu's beating of Huang Gai later evolved into a post-break sentence: Zhou Yu beat Huang Gai - one is willing to fight, and the other is willing to suffer. It is used as a metaphor for something that both parties are willing to do.

  18. Anonymous users2024-01-20

    "Destroy Shu Lianma and go north to cut Cao",

  19. Anonymous users2024-01-19

    In "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", is it possible for Zhou Yu's plan to divide the world into two parts?

    I can tell you very clearly that Zhou Yu in "Romance" is divided into two parts of the world, and the possibility of success is zero! In "Romance", Zhou Yu couldn't expect Zhuge Liang to do anything, and was finally by Zhuge Liang! He will never be Zhuge Liang's opponent!

    As long as Luo Guanzhong waved his pen, Zhuge Liang could easily kill Zhou Yu, how could Zhou Yu, who has no halo of the protagonist, compare with Zhuge Liang! No matter how you compare, you lose!

    So in Romance, Zhou Yu's bifurcation of the world will definitely not work!

    So! Zhou Yu in the official history, if he did not die of illness on the march, would he be able to realize the dream of unifying the world?

    I think it's promising! Cao Cao's defeat at Chibi, coupled with Ma Chao's constant harassment, was no longer able to look south; Liu Bei was just sending people under the fence, and on the surface he had to listen to the dispatch of Eastern Wu, and he only occupied half of Jingzhou south of the Yangtze River, and his troops were weak; Now that Dongwu doesn't lend Jingzhou to him, his development period will at least double, and he won't dare to come out to provoke right and wrong in three or five years, otherwise Dongwu can take advantage of the situation to eat Liu Bei;

    Liu Zhang and Zhang Lu have a feud, and they are constantly at war with each other, Zhou Yu relies on the Yangtze River basin, goes down the river, and attacks Liu Zhang with Zhang Lu, it is not a difficult thing! Moreover, the time for Dongwu to destroy Liu Zhang will not be longer than the time for Liu Bei to destroy Liu Zhang, because Liu Bei was alone at that time, and was surrounded and beaten by Liu Zhang and Zhang Lu, if it weren't for Huo Jun's hundreds of people to defend more than 10,000 people for a year, Liu Bei is estimated to be swallowed by Liu Zhang! Under such difficult conditions, Liu Bei still won!

    Zhou Yu is much better, starting from Jiangling, going down the river, directly taking Badong and Ba County, relying on the three major tributaries of the Yangtze River, including the Minjiang River, Tuojiang River, and Jialing River (I don't know what the Jialing River was called during the Three Kingdoms period), which can run through almost all important cities in Shudi, including Chengdu! So. The advantages of the Soochow Navy can be fully displayed!

    After the annexation of Liu Zhang, relying on the waters of the Jialing River, it reached Hanzhong and annexed Zhang Lu, Zhang Lu's strength was very weak, and he could not resist the enemy of Eastern Wu! In the end, Sun Yu was left in Hanzhong, and Ma Chao attacked Cao Wei, Zhou Yu returned to Jiangling, led the army to storm Xiangyang, and Cao Cao was difficult to take care of; There is a possibility of success!

    But it doesn't mean that it will be successful, but there is a possibility of success!

  20. Anonymous users2024-01-18

    I don't think it will be Soochow. Both the Cao Wei and Shu Han regimes have a certain strength, and the development of the country's general trend will not change because of the ability of one person.

  21. Anonymous users2024-01-17

    I think so. With Zhou Yu's military talent, he had already made plans for the Northern Expedition at that time, and there were many talented people in Jiangdong, and it was very likely that Eastern Wu would dominate the world.

  22. Anonymous users2024-01-16

    No. The strength of Eastern Wu is not enough to seize the world, whether there is Zhou Yu or not, Eastern Wu has no ability to compete with Cao Wei.

  23. Anonymous users2024-01-15

    No, because Soochow doesn't have a strong desire to dominate the world, the reason is that Soochow is relatively wealthy.

  24. Anonymous users2024-01-14

    I think that if Zhou Yu is not dead, it is possible for Eastern Wu to unify the world, because Zhou Yu's strategy is not inferior to Zhuge Liang, and he knows that Liu Bei will become a great enemy in the future, so he will try every means to imprison Liu Bei, so that there will be one less hostile force.

  25. Anonymous users2024-01-13

    If Zhou Yu hadn't died, the chances of Eastern Wu unifying the world would still be slim, because Zhou Yu's small strength had created him not to have the courage to compete with Wei and Shu for hegemony.

  26. Anonymous users2024-01-12

    No, although Zhou Yu is also very powerful, he is not yet the opponent of Zhuge Liang and Sima Yi.

  27. Anonymous users2024-01-11

    The key is what Zhou Yu will do to Sima Yi, he is not as good as Lu Xun.

  28. Anonymous users2024-01-10

    Zhou Yu can not die, Zhuge Liang can also not die, Cao Cao can also assume that he does not die, this kind of assumption is meaningless. The development of things depends on imagination, ten people and ten ideas can be established, and there will never be only one way to Rome.

  29. Anonymous users2024-01-09

    It is impossible to achieve the division of the world, first of all, the lord of Eastern Wu is not good at opening up the territory and expanding the territory, and secondly, the terrain of Shu is dangerous, and the Wei State has many generals, which one of the Eastern Wu wants to destroy, the most stable result is to divide the world into three parts, which plays a role in containing each other.

  30. Anonymous users2024-01-08

    The world may be divided into two, Zhuge Liang at that time proposed the pattern of dividing the world into three parts, and Zhou Yu had already put forward the idea of dividing the world into two, if he did not die, Liu Bei's power could not grow, and finally Cao Wei could also be destroyed.

  31. Anonymous users2024-01-07

    The pattern of the world will not change because of the change of one person, Zhou Yu will always die, and Dongwu cannot rely on him alone to decide the rise and fall.

  32. Anonymous users2024-01-06

    Unlikely, because Sima Yi is still alive, compared to Zhou Yu, Sima Yi is more powerful, not of the same level.

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