Why did the Shinsengumi support the shogunate, and why did the Nagasu clan hate the Shinjoku shoguna

Updated on history 2024-02-09
21 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-05

    In Sima Ryotaro's **, Kondo and others worked hard for the Aizu Domain, but it was actually just to become famous (?). I'm sorry I can't describe) At that time, Kondo said a sentence that was: Don't report to the country at this time, but when!

    That's what it means, I forgot the original words) So Hijikata and Okita and others followed Kondo from Edo to Kyoto, and then the Ronin team of Kawakiyo said that they wanted to "respect the king" and asked the people of the Ronin team to return to Edo, and Kondo, Serizawa and others stayed. Finally, a new writing group was formed.

    Personally, I think that in the eyes of the people of the new writing group, it does not mean the emperor who respects them, and the "king" in their hearts refers to not necessarily the Tokushu shogunate, but Matsudaira Rongho of the Aizu Domain (Matsudaira Rongbao is very good to the new writing team, and after Kondo's death, Matsudaira died to protect the Hijikata) So in order to repay the favor, the new writing team will help the Aizu domain and maintain the shogunate, in addition, the new writing group will support the shogunate, which has a lot to do with the actual ruler Hijikata I believe that LZ should know the character of the Hijikata, since it is determined that one thing, I will fight to the end (personally, I don't know much about Hijikata) which explains why Hijikata did not change his position when most people were against the shogunate. And the Okita Soji. Actually, although I liked him the most, I didn't figure it out, and in the end I had to attribute it to the reason of faith.

    In addition, it seems that everyone has a different opinion, and after the collapse of the shogunate is a matter of time, isn't there still the formation of Shoyoshi Pair, the Okuyu League, the Ezo Republic, and so on?

    Everyone has a different idea, I don't think it's necessary to dwell too much on this, I just think of it as Hijikata's gratitude to Matsudaira, as for Okita, Inoue, Kondo, Saito and others, maybe they just follow Hijikata (I really think that the new writing group generally listens to Hijikata).

    Above, my thoughts (I'm really tired of playing so much), I hope to solve a little doubt for you.

    ps: Happy Lantern Festival

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-04

    The Shinsengumi belonged to the Aizu Domain, and the Aizu Domain supported the Shogunate, so of course the Shinsengumi had to work for the Shogunate.

    In addition, the Shinsengumi was a security organization affiliated with the shogunate and was responsible for maintaining law and order in Kyoto. The reformists were "punished" everywhere and cut people at will, and of course the new selection group had to oppose the reformers.

    I haven't watched this Taiga drama, so I don't know who Katsura Kogoro is really talking to. There are indeed a very small number of king-honoring factions in the Shinsengumi, such as Ito Koshitaro. Later, Ito-san left the team and planned the assassination of Boss Kondo. As a result, he failed and died.

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-03

    Not contradictory. The shogunate also founded. The purpose of the Zunwang faction is the same, both are self-improvement plus driving away foreigners, which can be regarded as the radical faction of the king and the moderate faction. Samu hugged the thighs of France, and King Zun hugged the thighs of England.

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-02

    The Shinsengumi was established in the 3rd year of Bunku, a samurai group established by the shogunate to maintain law and order in Kyoto.

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-01

    The Shinsengumi and the Shinsengumi are actually the same organization, and the Japanese word "cho" is the same as "writing". It doesn't make a difference.

    The Shinsengumi was a pro-shogunate samurai organization during the late Edo period in Japan, and an armed group of ronins at the end of the shogunate. Mainly active in Kyoto, he was responsible for maintaining law and order in the area and dealing with anti-shogunate figures. They assisted the shogunate in the Boshin War, and were disbanded after their defeat and surrender in 1869.

    In the early days of its establishment, the Shinsengumi (also known as the "Shinsengumi", the Japanese word for "cho" and "writing"), nicknamed "Mibu Wolf", was supported by Matsudaira Yoho, the lord of the Aizu Domain, who was serving as the guardian of Kyoto at the time, and was incorporated into the Aizu Domain. The Ikedaya Incident of 1864 dealt a blow to the radical faction in Kyoto that advocated the reverence of the king. The Shinsengumi are best known for their "Sei" flag, unique haori (a type of tunics) with a yamagata pattern on the sleeves, and strict "jutsu notsu" (strict rules used to maintain organizational discipline).

    The Shinsengumi was a joint organization between the private sector and the shogunate, supported by Matsudaira Yoho, the lord of the Aizu domain who was the guardian of Kyoto at the time. During the end of the Edo period in Japan, anti-shogunate ronin often assassinated the shogunate** and pro-shogunate figures in Kyoto. As a result, the "Sashoku faction," the main faction within the Shinsengumi, emerged to purge the opposition.

  6. Anonymous users2024-01-31

    At that time, as long as the pronunciation was the same, there was no restriction on which kanji was used. Therefore, the general director will also write the general two, the general order, and so on. To put it simply, it can be counted as a fake word.

    At that time, the seal of Kumon was used as a Shinsengumi, but now the default is a Shinsengumi in the Japanese input method.

  7. Anonymous users2024-01-30

    It is said that just the difference in words has the same meaning.

  8. Anonymous users2024-01-29

    The Shinshoguni was a defender of the shogun, which can be understood as royalists.

    Emperor Meiji was, of course, a reformist.

    The end result is all killed.

  9. Anonymous users2024-01-28

    In the history of Japan, it can be said that the Ikedaya Movement, which was newly organized, lagged behind the pace of Japan's Meiji Restoration and hindered Japan's development. A drama like Dahe Opera, which is still more orthodox history, naturally has to speak the official language. But people have their own aspirations and different positions and concepts, so they can't say dead.

    Personally, I admire them.

  10. Anonymous users2024-01-27

    Historically, they were on the side of the shogunate, and they were reactionary forces in the strict sense of the word.

    This question is actually very subjective, just as there is no fixed question about whether Bushido is evil or not. However, purely from the perspective of historical progress, they are on the wrong side.

  11. Anonymous users2024-01-26

    In fact, the new writing group is a police organization. At that time, the reputation of the new writing group was not as good as Sasaki Sasaburo's Mikai group, but the descendants raised their value, just like Sakamoto Ryoma's fame was also raised by later generations.

  12. Anonymous users2024-01-25

    It's a bit of a feeling of being left behind in the late Qing Dynasty. Anyway, I'm fighting for my beliefs.

    Besides, the Restorationists who fought against the shogunate were actually using force to pursue their ideals.

    So it's hard to say whether it's good or bad.

  13. Anonymous users2024-01-24

    The Choshu Domain was a faction dedicated to the overthrow of the shogunate. The Shinshogumi were an armed force under the shogunate, and of course the Choshu clan hated him.

  14. Anonymous users2024-01-23

    Upstairs said something wrong! The general general of the Western Army of the Sekigahara Joint War is the grandson of Mori Terumoto Mori Mototo!

  15. Anonymous users2024-01-22

    1. From the perspective of historical origin, the Choshu Domain belonged to the Tokugawa Shogunate's external daimyo, and the Mori Yuan confronted Tokugawa Ieyasu as the side of the Western Army during the Battle of Sekigahara, and surrendered to Tokugawa Ieyasu after the defeat, reducing from 1.2 million stone to 370,000, that is to say, the Choshu Domain led by the Mori family itself was not a close faction of the Tokugawa Shogunate.

    2. There are three types of daimyo divided by the Tokugawa shogunate, the daimyo of the clan, the daimyo of the pedigree, and the daimyo of the outer kind. The daimyo were basically opposed to the Tokugawa family at the beginning, so after the Tokugawa shogunate established rule throughout Japan, in order to weaken the financial resources and military strength of the daimyo in Japan, there were various policies, such as land exchange between daimyos, heavy taxes, monopoly systems, etc., so some daimyo actually had a hard time when they reached the 6th, 7th, or even earlier generations.

    3. The geographical location of the Choshu Domain is the westernmost part of Honshu Island, and the coast is relatively developed and foreign trade is relatively developed, but this is inconsistent with the "national closure policy" that the Tokugawa shogunate has always implemented.

    4. Because of the heavy debts of the domain, finally in the Choshu Domain, the people broke out, as an opportunity, the reformers within the Choshu Domain came to power, put forward the idea of opening the port to value commerce and strengthen the army, all kinds of policies are opposed to the policy of the Tokugawa Shogunate, the shogunate has sent troops to crusade against the Choshu Domain twice without success, and the geographical location of the Choshu Domain is far away, so it has gradually become the center of activity of many people who respect the king and the Yi.

    5. At the end of the shogunate, there were many celebrities of the New School in the Choshu Domain, such as Yoshida Shoin, Takasugi Shinsaku, Katsura Kogoro, etc., making the Choshu Domain the base of the Shogunate movement and one of the three strong feudal clans.

    6. When it comes to hating the shogunate, it is actually nothing more than the opposition of political ideas, the shogunate is feudal and conservative, and it is powerless in the face of the ** cannon of the Western powers, not only signing many unequal treaties with the outside world, but also oppressing the foreign daimyo everywhere at home. As an armed organization of the shogun, the Shinsengumi were loyal to the shogun, so they were naturally the enemies of the Choshu domain.

  16. Anonymous users2024-01-21

    1 The Mori clan's battle at Sekigahara was reduced from 1,205,000 stone to 300,000 stone, excluding Iwakuni and Nagato. In fact, it was only 210,000 koku. There are less than 370,000 stones of land after inspection. Moreover, Mori had already reached a settlement with Tokugawa before the war.

    2 Bizen Okayama Kobayakawa clan domain belongs. After the Battle of Sekigahara, Kobayakawa Hideaki changed from 375,000 koku to 411,000 koku in Kozen Okayama, and reached 550,000 koku after repeated land inspections. However, Kobayakawa Motojin did not receive any inheritance rights.

    The inheritance was divided between the Mori clan and Ikeda.

    3. Iwami Ginzan was forcibly occupied by the shogunate.

    4. Fukushima Masaki's forcible extortion of wages.

  17. Anonymous users2024-01-20

    To put it simply, the Tokugawa shogunate has participated in almost every battle against the Shin-** army since the Battle of Fushimi Toba, and has been fighting against the fallen shogunate army led by the Satsuma clan of the Choshu domain (there are too many things to say, let's talk about it briefly first).

  18. Anonymous users2024-01-19

    After the end of the War of the Fall.

    Most of the cadres of the Shinsengumi were led by Isamu Kondo.

    Or be executed.

    Do you want to seppuku.

    If you want to die on the battlefield?

    As soon as the Meiji Restoration began, the organization was disbanded.

  19. Anonymous users2024-01-18

    Japan's version of reform and opening up! It's just a few years earlier than China. Reform is more thorough!

  20. Anonymous users2024-01-17

    Because it's respectable, if you want to understand, read more books by yourself, and the Shinsengumi belong to the glory of defeat.

  21. Anonymous users2024-01-16

    Cultural materials.,There's a lot of depictions of the new writing group in the anime.。

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