If the Qing Dynasty s constitutional movement had succeeded, would it have perished?

Even if the "Constitutional Movement" succeeded, the Qing Dynasty would still perish. It's just a matter of time, the core of the movement is to organize the demise of the Qing Dynasty, the feudal system has come to an end, and it is only a matter of time before it will perish.

Even if the Qing Dynasty's constitutional monarchy was successful, it would still perish. Because China's national conditions are different from those of other countries, feudalism will restrict China's development every day. The influx of advanced ideological trends will inevitably provoke war again.

In the end, it will still perish, because the Qing Dynasty at that time has gone and the country is already very empty.

First of all, this is a standard false proposition, because the Qing Dynasty will not succeed in constitutional monarchy.

1.Taking the Wuxu Reform as an example, all the reformers are seeking top-down reforms, and Guangxu supports the reform in order to gain more power rather than accept the loss of power; in such intrigues, even if the "post-party" does not act, the reform will end in failure, while the bourgeois revolution in Europe is carried out from the bottom up and completed with blood. However, there are also people who understand the law, and Tan Sitong's words illustrate the crux of this problem:

The law changes in all countries are made from bloodshed, and today China has not heard of anyone who has shed blood because of the law changes, and the reason why this country is not prosperous is also.

Therefore, the Qing Dynasty's refusal to hand over power was an internal cause, and a constitutional monarchy could not be completed from the top down.

2.The Chinese revolution was not a revolution of demands from one class to another, but a rebellion against the Qing Dynasty, and if the Qing Dynasty continued to be enshrined as the monarch, it would be meaningless for the revolution. In addition, in the later period, the Qing Dynasty said that it wanted to establish a constitution several times in order to continue its life, but it was all gone, and there was no credibility at all, so it was okay if such a monarch didn't want it.

Therefore, the revolutionary forces cannot tolerate the existence of a monarch, this is an external factor, and a constitutional monarchy cannot be from the bottom up.

3.In addition, the Qing Dynasty was a minority dynasty that did not represent the vast majority of the Han population, which was one of the reasons why a constitutional monarchy could not take shape in China.

In the late Qing Dynasty, the building was about to collapse, and the constitutional monarchy was just an excuse for existence, not a good medicine for life. China does not have the bourgeoisie peculiar to Western capitalist countries to lead the revolution, and the Xinhai Revolution, in the final analysis, is a bit casual and a bit fatalistic.

The biggest obstacle to a constitutional monarchy has never been the royal family, which will agree to a constitutional monarchy in order to preserve some of its powers and privileges.

But what about the Manchu power class of the entire Qing Dynasty, and can they retain their power after the constitutional monarchy? The final Imperial Cabinet is an example.

And I don't think that the constitutional monarchy can save the Manchu Qing Dynasty, Yuan Shikai in the later period of liquidation is a one-handed cover of the sky, the result is still not able to unify the whole of China, local politics is still in the hands of the locality, the key to the establishment of the Beiyang **, the power should be greater than the constitutional monarchy of the royal family, the result is still a mess, when the Qing ** constitutional monarchy, then that day is the first day of complete loss of power, the royal family and the country name may be retained, but there is no need to participate in government affairs.

If it succeeded, the Qing Dynasty would not have perished, and Yuan Shikai would not have united with the Revolutionary Party, which advocated a constitutional monarchy and opposed a democratic republic.

Then it can at least continue to this day, after all, with a constitutional monarchy, the monarch no longer has any rights.

It will not last for a few years, and revolutionary parties in various places will rise up one after another, and the feudal society will inevitably be subverted, and even if the system is reformed, it will not be able to maintain the rule of the Qing Dynasty.

It will probably continue to this day. Because of the realization of a constitutional monarchy, the Qing Dynasty will complete the transformation, and it will slowly change from weak to strong, and it will not perish.

The reason for the failure of the constitutional movement at the end of the Qing Dynasty was that the national bourgeoisie was too weak and the feudal class was too strong. The Constitutional Movement at the end of the Qing Dynasty was a national salvation movement initiated by figures such as Liang Qichao and Kang Youwei, but it ended in failure in only about 100 days and became a farce. The Western powers opened the door to China with strong ships and cannons, and the Qing Dynasty could no longer use the policy of closing the country to sever the connection between the Chinese land and the outside world, and the science and technology and commodities of the Western powers continued to pour into the country, thus giving rise to a new social class, the national bourgeoisie.

Before and after they gained great economic power. At that time, all strata of society were using their own practical actions to find a way to save the country and the people. The national bourgeoisie was a relatively advanced social class at the end of the Qing Dynasty, they advocated the use of Western science and technology to strengthen their own country, they also learned from the advanced science and technology of the West for their own use, in politics they were also imitating the political system of the Western world, the national bourgeoisie hoped to save the Chinese land from peril through the political system of constitutional monarchy, but this is just a good idea, and the final facts proved that the constitutional monarchy could not become a social system to save the Chinese land. This was not in line with China's national conditions at that time.

The feudal ruling class was also aware of the decay and backwardness of the feudal system, and they hoped that a completely new system would emerge to continue the life of the Qing Dynasty. The feudal ruling class did not really understand the meaning of the constitutional monarchy, so at first they were blinded to the legitimacy of the constitutional monarchy, but when they really realized that the constitutional monarchy threatened the interests of the feudal ruling class, they unreservedly reversed the oath they had made.

The national bourgeoisie cannot undertake the historical mission of overthrowing the three mountains. This is a truth that has been tested by events.

The reason for the failure is that this constitutional movement is fake, it is just a movement implemented by the Qing ** in order to save his rule, and it is not essentially a constitution of a democratic republic, but a constitution under the feudal system, and it has failed to put forward any constructive planning.

The fundamental reason for the failure of the constitutional movement in the late Qing Dynasty was the strong opposition of the Empress Dowager Cixi and some royalists, and the reason why it did not take shape in the end was that the reformers' understanding of the constitution was not very clear and profound.

There was a lot of opposition to the constitutional movement both inside and outside the imperial court, and many people were reluctant to carry out the imperial court's orders because the constitutional movement would touch their own interests. The people were also disappointed that they could not benefit from the constitutional movement, and in the end they failed.

The final defeat was due to the opposition of the Qing Dynasty, so it was not successful in the end.

No one can succeed casually, reform is the interests of others, of course people are unwilling, there is no reform that can be simply successful without bloodshed and sacrifice!

Can a royal council run an office?

To this day, speaking of the late Qing Dynasty, our basic memory is that after the Gengzi indemnity, it seems that the Qing ** was surviving until 1911, and then the Xinhai Revolution broke out and the Qing ** perished. But you should pay attention to the fact that the year when the Gengzi indemnity was signed was 1901, and the Qing Dynasty fell in 1911, so there was a full decade in between.

No, the Qing Dynasty from top to bottom, from the Empress Dowager Cixi to the Qipin Sesame Official, all knew what the Qing ** had become after the Gengzi indemnity, it was almost a big house with leaks everywhere, and it couldn't last for a few years by repairing and repairing. If you follow the old path again, what awaits the Qing Dynasty will inevitably be perish. Cixi is also a hard-working old lady, so old, she still comes out every day to preside over government affairs, to put it bluntly, she is to preside over the mess of the Qing Dynasty.

So Cixi noticed such a situation at that time, that is, how to make the Qing Dynasty strong? Of course, it is to learn to defeat their Japan, Japan not only defeated the Qing Dynasty at that time, but also won the Russo-Japanese War in 1905, Japan's prestige can be said to sweep the world, the old lady Cixi at that time waved a pen, decided to implement the Japanese constitutional monarchy, in the Qing Dynasty also came to a top-down reform, so in 1906, Cixi sent a delegation abroad to inspect the foreign constitutional system, Cixi single-handedly promoted the preparatory constitutional bill was promulgated, this set of bills is called "Declaration of the Preparatory Constitution". It explains that from 1906, the Qing Dynasty had to prepare for the constitution for nine years, and then promulgate the constitution.

This is a major reform in the last Qing Dynasty, and the old lady Cixi's support for the constitution is actually to divide the monarchy's power, but she knows that if she doesn't do this, continue to follow the rules of her ancestors, and the Qing Dynasty will die. It can be seen that Cixi is not a stubborn conservative, she knows how to be flexible, but unfortunately this constitution is too late after all.

Because the constitution of the Qing Dynasty was completely copied from the method of Japan's constitution, Japan prepared for the Meiji Restoration for nine years, and the Qing Dynasty was also nine years, but I don't know that a country as small as Japan has been reformed enough in nine years, and the Qing Dynasty is so big, how can it be in nine years?

In addition, Cixi died in 1908 at that time, and Guangxu died the day before, which means that it has only been two years since the constitution was prepared, and the two important leaders of the empire are gone. Pu Yi, who succeeded to the throne later, did not understand anything, and the power was in the hands of the regent, and the key to the regent was that he did not have as much prestige as Cixi, although he actively promoted the constitution. But the people simply didn't buy it.

The people broke out several times to urge the constitution, but the Qing ** was stunned and couldn't get it, and finally the people were disappointed, and the Xinhai Revolution broke out and the Qing ** perished, so a Qing ** finally self-help action was declared bankrupt. We see his active desire to live, but sorry, if you had realized this twenty years earlier, I'm afraid you really wouldn't have perished!

Because the Qing ** at that time was already at the end of the strong crossbow, it was no longer good, the people's hearts were disheartened, the country was ruined, and it was too late to save the department, even if Shichang was noisy with the new rules, it couldn't save it.

At that time, the country was already very unstable, people didn't believe in it, and then a lot of revolutions broke out, and in the end it didn't materialize.