Wu Ziliang is the famous Yu Ban, why is his evaluation not high in later generations?

Updated on history 2024-03-18
16 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-06

    Yu Ban was a famous general of Cao Wei and was heavily used by Cao Cao, and in the Battle of Xiangfan launched by Guan Yu, Yu Ban and Pang De led the army to rescue Cao Ren, but Guan Yu flooded the Seventh Army, and surrendered immediately after the defeat. Yu Ban's surrender was despised by Wei Shu Wu, and Cao Cao lamented that it was inferior to Pang De. After finally returning to Wei, Cao Pirang went to visit Cao's tomb, but ordered someone to depict the mural of Yu Ban Surrender and Pang Dening's unyielding death, and he died of anger after seeing it.

    In ancient times, loyalty and righteousness were highly valued, and those who were disloyal and unrighteous were looked down upon, so later generations did not have a high opinion of the ban.

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-05

    Because Yu Ban surrendered to Liu Bei in the later battles, although he was later released, this kind of greedy for life and fear of death has not been reused in Cao Ying, and his reputation has been damaged.

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-04

    That's because he always does some bad things, and secondly, because he's not good at justifying and has a reckless temperament, that's why he has such a reputation.

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-03

    is mainly Cao Cao's very important general, and he has made a lot of contributions after following the other party, but he has killed a lot of people in the process, so it will lead to a very bad reputation.

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-02

    This is because he was not guaranteed in his old age, he surrendered to Guan in order to survive, and after he was released, he was not reused and trusted.

  6. Anonymous users2024-02-01

    Because he has done a lot of bad things, most people can't understand that kind of thing, so he has some bad deeds in history.

  7. Anonymous users2024-01-31

    Yu Ban's evaluation in later generations is still very high.

    Pei Songzhi: Surrounded and then surrendered, although the law is not forgiven; Prisoners were sent to them, not for disobedience. The ban was not for the old friend in case of emergency, but wantonly to kill, in order to disagree with everyone, so the pawn is a captive, and death is evil, it is appropriate.

    Chen Shubao: Li Ling is exhausted, he can't help but surrender, and he is still alive when the forbidden water rises.

    Kong Pingzhong: The general was a friend in the past, and if he was prosperous, he would still be alive. Although the cycle of revenge is providential, the strong man cherishes only fame.

    Cao has known each other for 30 years, and he is not as good as Pang Mingxian. When he returned, his head was white and haggard, and his weeping was especially pitiful. How treacherous is the portrait of Gaoling?

    It is to let the pain enter the nine springs. The division of the water is brave and crowns the world, and the success or failure of heroes is accidental.

    Hao Jing: Zhang Liao and Xu Huang are fierce and strategic, and they are also close to Zhang's Yapi; However, if you lose yourself in the exercise, you will end up brave and unrighteous.

    Li Zhen: Yu Ban knows the general situation best, only for the country to win or lose, not for a body to distinguish between right and wrong, and is a good general.

    Wang Xin: There is no general in the world who has won a hundred battles, forbidden to rain in the rain, and he is not ashamed to be defeated by Guan. However, although it is similar to Xun Lin's father and Meng Mingshi, although the country is defeated and the country is not replaced, he has not heard of his shy face and surrendered to the enemy.

    Let the two sons descend to Chu and return to Jin, I am afraid that I will not be able to die. It is forbidden to be a national general, in order to deter the public, to control the chaos, and it is also the hero of the time, but it is a pity that virtue will not end. Both for the feather fowl, for Wu De, to send Emperor Wen, so tossing and turning, forbidden not to die of shame, alone on the high tomb and suddenly ashamed of the disease?

    What Emperor Wen did was also excessive, not the emperor's trip, nor the gentleman's trip, but there was a great taste of Wang Zhongxuan's donkey's cry, it was a celebrity line, and it was really a great pleasure.

    Yu Ban (?) 221), the character is a native of Taishan Juping (now Tai'annan, Shandong). Military general of Wei during the Three Kingdoms period.

    Originally a general of Bao Xin, and later belonged to Cao Cao, he once crusaded against the Qingzhou soldiers who did not abide by military discipline when Zhang Xiu rebelled, and at the same time held the camp in order to meet the enemy, so Cao Cao praised him as comparable to the ancient famous generals.

    However, in the battle of Xiangfan in the twenty-fourth year of Jian'an (219), Yu Ban surrendered after losing to Guan Yu, resulting in the loss of the late festival. After Guan Yu was defeated, Yu Ban was released from Jingzhou to Wu. In the second year of Huang Chu (221 AD), Sun Quan was repatriated to return to Wei, and died in the same year.

  8. Anonymous users2024-01-30

    Yu Ban's popularity has always been the lowest. The reason is simple, everyone is not used to his surrender. I don't want to defend the surrender of the ban.

    It's just that I always inadvertently think of the character Li Ling. Li Ling and Yu Ban's experiences were very similar, the same defeat and capture, the same surrender to the enemy. Why can everyone forgive Li Ling, but refuse to forgive Yu Ban?

    Is it just because Yu Ban belongs to the Cao Group, the reason why it is the negative group in "Romance of the Three Kingdoms"? Time has passed, and I think everyone should look at history from a more objective perspective. After all, it should also be noted that Yu Ban's surrender was only surrender, and he did not take refuge in the other party.

    Yu Ban, one of the five good generals of Wei. He was the first to raise troops with Bao Xin, and later joined Cao Cao and was appointed as the official and military Sima. Since then, he has followed Cao Cao to fight everywhere.

    Once Cao Cao's Qingzhou soldiers robbed everywhere, and after being chased and killed by Yu Ban, they went to report Yu Ban's rebellion, just at this time Zhang Xiu's rebellion came to attack, Yu Ban first set up camp before going to see Cao Cao, Cao Cao asked him why he didn't explain first, Yu Ban thought that the argument was small, and the retreat from the enemy was big, Cao Cao was very happy, so he named him the Marquis of Yishou Pavilion. Later, he defeated Lu Bu and broke Yuan Shao, and Yu Ban and other Wuliang generals took turns to serve as vanguard officers and performed actively. Another time, Cao Cao hated Zhu Ling and wanted to remove his military power, so he sent Yu Ban to do it, and Yu Ban completed the task brilliantly with only dozens of horsemen with a paperwork, and he was so feared that he was moved to General Zuo.

    In the twenty-fourth year of Jian'an, Guan Yu surrounded Cao Ren, and Yu Ban went to the rescue, but was captured by the flooded Seventh Army, Yu Ban surrendered to the enemy, and his subordinate Pang De was killed unyieldingly. Later, Guan Yu was broken by Sun Quan, and Yu Ban also belonged to Wu State, and was not sent back to Wei until the second year of Huang Chu, when he was already white, haggard, and tearful. Cao Pi ordered him to visit Gao Ling (Cao Cao's mausoleum), because the mausoleum painted a picture of him bending his knees to surrender to the enemy, Pang De was unyielding, so Yu Ban soon fell ill and died of shame, and posthumously became Li Hou.

  9. Anonymous users2024-01-29

    Among Cao Cao's five good generals, there is no doubt that the highest status is Yu Ban, General Feng Zuo, Fake Jieyue, and the rest of Zhang Liao and the other four are generally fake Jiejie, which is not as good as Yu Ban, but Yu Ban's force is the worst of the five, since Yu Ban has the lowest force, why is his status the highest? Why does Cao Cao value the ban the most?

    Speaking of martial arts, Zhang Liao is very powerful, he once drew with the Eastern Wu general Tai Shi Ci seventy or eighty times, Le Jin was brave, and the Eastern Wu general Ling Tong drew fifty times, Zhang? is also very powerful, he once drew with Zhang Liao Fifty, and Xu Huang not to mention, rescued Fancheng Cao Ren, and once drew with Guan Yu Eighty.

    Why is it said that the forbidden force is the worst of the five? Is there any evidence for this?

    Take Ma Chao as an example, Ma Chao defeated Zhang in 20? , and Ma Chao defeated Yu Ban in only nine rounds, obviously, Zhang? Martial arts lie above the forbidden; And Zhang?

    and Zhang Liao Zeng draw, Zhang Liao's martial arts are obviously above the ban; Le Jin is known for his bravery, and in the official history, he killed Yuan Shao's general Chun Yuqiong, and the force was fierce, which should be higher than the ban; And Xu Huang drew Guan Yu in the Battle of Xiangfan, and the force was even more above the ban.

    Why is Yu Ban's force the worst, but his status is the highest? Why does Cao Cao value the ban the most?

    This is because Yu Ban is known for his strict management of the army and his strong ability to command the army, and Yu Ban is very good at governing the army, and it is his advantage to command the army to fight.

    Cao Cao conquered the world, and every time he either let Yu Ban be the striker or refused, it was because he appreciated Yu Ban's ability to command troops.

    Cao Cao conquered Zhang Xiu, after Zhang Xiu surrendered, because Cao Cao incorporated Zhang Xiu's aunt, Zhang Xiu was humiliated and suddenly rebelled, Cao Cao suffered heavy losses, the eldest son Cao Ang, nephew Cao Anmin, and the general Dian Wei were all killed, and Cao Cao himself almost died.

    Cao Cao was defeated in the battle of Wancheng, and only by forbidding himself to defend the camp and turn defeat into victory. Yu Ban ignored others' false accusations to Cao Cao and calmly commanded.

    The Three Kingdoms Chronicles in the Forbidden Biography recorded: Qingzhou soldiers went away and Taizu sued himself. When the ban comes, set up a camp first, and pay homage to Taizu from time to time.

    Or it is forbidden: "The Qingzhou soldiers have sued the king, and it is advisable to promote public discernment." "Forbidden:

    Now the thief is behind, chasing until nowhere, if you don't prepare first, how can you treat the enemy? And the public is smart, what is the reason! ”

    Cao Cao's troops were in chaos, only Yu Ban's troops were very neat, beating war drums, triumphant all the way, giving Cao Cao's generals a vivid lesson, and Yu Ban was also evaluated by Cao Cao, comparable to Gu Zhiliang's generals.

    It is precisely because of Yu Ban's strong ability to command the army and his old qualifications that he has achieved a high status and ranks the highest among the five good generals.

    It's just that Yu Ban was later in the Battle of Xiangfan, because of the autumn rain, the Han River swelled, and was defeated and surrendered by Guan Yu, ruining his merits and reputation!

  10. Anonymous users2024-01-28

    Su Yu is so capable of fighting, why doesn't he even have a marshal.

  11. Anonymous users2024-01-27

    This is commented on later in the Three Kingdoms, Yu Ban's training is very strong, and the Qingzhou soldiers were brought out by him.

  12. Anonymous users2024-01-26

    This is because Yu Ban has been on the battlefield for a long time, is good at fighting, and won the battle of Puyang, so he was named a good general of the five sons by Cao Cao.

    In the second year of Jian'an, Yu Ban accompanied Cao Cao to Puyang to crusade against Lü Bu, Yu Ban alone led his troops to break through Lü Bu's two camps in the south of the city, and led his troops to defeat Gao Ya in Suchang. Cao Cao's retinue attacked Shouzhang, Dingtao, and Lihu, surrounded Zhang Chao in Yongqiu Chundan, occupied four cities, and made great achievements, and was later named the fifth son of a good general.

  13. Anonymous users2024-01-25

    Because Yu Ban is inferior to Guan Yu in terms of hard power.

    Yu Ban and Guan Yu were powerful generals during the Three Kingdoms period, and Yu Ban was in Cao Cao.

    Under the door, Guan Yu was in Shu Liu Bei.

    Door. But at that time, the Wei State was stronger than the Shu State, but Yu Ban still couldn't beat Guan Yu, this is in terms of hard power, and the gap between Yu Ban and Guan Yu is still not small.

    Due to the gap between Ban and Guan Yu in terms of strength, it is not difficult for us to come to such a conclusion that there is a big gap between the five good generals headed by Yu Ban and the five tiger generals led by Guan Yu, just like Zhang He is one of Cao Cao's five good generals, Zhang Fei.

    He is one of the five tiger generals. There is also a big gap between Zhang He and Zhang Fei, and it is easy to conclude that the five tiger generals and the five tiger generals are stronger and who are weaker: the five tiger generals are stronger than the five good generals, and this judgment is not groundless, but supported by facts.

    As we all know, the five good generals are the more famous generals, and the five good generals are: Zhang Liao, Xu Huang, Zhang He, Yu Ban and Le Jin. Liu Bei also has a lot of generals under him, among which the five tiger generals are the most famous, namely: Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, and Ma Chao.

    Huang Zhong and Zhao Yun.

    Put aside the "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" in the four famous novels

    From the perspective of the official history, there were four battles between the five tiger generals and the five good generals, and the results of the battles were two wins, one draw and one loss. Compared with the five tiger generals, after some simple comparisons, it is easy to conclude that according to historical facts, the five tiger generals are still stronger in terms of hard power. <>

    Guan Yu: The word cloud is long, Hedong Xie Liangren, in his early years, he followed Liu Bei to fight on the battlefield, and killed Yan Liang in Baimapo.

    Zhang Fei: The word Yide, a native of Zhuo County, Youzhou, fought on the battlefield with Guan Yu and Liu Bei in his early years. Liu Bei ate a closed door soup in Changbanpo, and after Zhang Fei broke off, no one in Cao Jun dared to take a step forward.

    On the whole, Yu Ban's loss to Guan Yu is understandable.

  14. Anonymous users2024-01-24

    Because his strength is not as good as Guan Yu, he can rank first among the five good generals because of the reason why he can make sycophants.

  15. Anonymous users2024-01-23

    Because Guan Yu is both wise and brave, strong in martial arts, and famous all over the world, although Yu Ban is known as the head of the five good generals, he is still not as good as Guan Yu.

  16. Anonymous users2024-01-22

    Yu Ban was cowardly fighting. When Cao Cao sent Yu Ban to fight, Yu Ban was afraid and didn't want to go, it was forcibly arranged by Cao Cao, and such a general had combat effectiveness.

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