Chen Qun obviously took refuge in Liu Bei, why did he become Cao Cao s general in the end?

Updated on history 2024-06-19
28 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-12

    Chen Qun once gave Liu Bei a suggestion that he didn't want Liu Bei to go to Xuzhou to take up a post, but Liu Bei didn't listen to the persuasion, and Chen Qun felt that he had not been courteous and left. Cao Cao is a special person who can attract talents, and Chen Qun's talent has also been displayed under him.

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-11

    It was Liu Bei's own problem, which led to Chen Qun's switch to Cao Cao, when Xuzhou Mu Taoqian recommended Liu Bei to do the assassin of Yuzhou, Liu was ordered to recruit troops with the identity of orthodox royal blood, Chen Qun saw that Liu Bei was sincere and took refuge in Liu Bei. Later, Tao Qian asked Xuzhou to Liu Bei, and Yuan Shu was eyeing Xuzhou again, Chen Qun felt that Liu Bei could not take over Xuzhou, and taking over Xuzhou was equivalent to confronting Yuan Shu, and Liu Bei was not capable. But Liu Bei did not listen to the persuasion and was finally repelled by Yuan Shu.

    Chen Qun saw Liu Bei clearly, so he took refuge in Cao Cao.

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-10

    Chen Qun obviously took refuge in Liu Bei, and the reason why he finally became Cao Cao's general was because he finally betrayed Liu Bei and defected to Cao Cao.

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-09

    Capable people will be reused wherever they are, and Cao Cao prefers this kind of capable person.

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-08

    Chen Qun was a family in Yingchuan, which is today's Xuchang in Henan. At that time, Chen Qun's family was a famous family in the Eastern Han Dynasty, and his grandfather and father were both talented people. Under the influence of his family, Chen Qun gradually rose to prominence.

    When Liu Bei met Chen Qun, he worked under Tao Qian in Xuzhou, but at that time, Chen Qun held important positions, and the two rarely intersected, until Tao Qian wanted to entrust Xuzhou to Liu Bei before his death, Chen Qun thought of following Liu Bei, but later rejected the position of Xuzhou Mu because of Liu Bei's character.

    <> Liu Bei wanted to take Xuzhou for himself, but it was too late. The wolves around Xuzhou are ready to carve up the big cake of Xuzhou. Chen Qun also persuaded Liu Bei many times not to pursue Xuzhou anymore, but Liu Bei did not listen to him.

    As we all know, before Liu Bei took over, Xuzhou was Tao Qian's territory. Later, Tao Qian decided to hand over Xuzhou to Liu Bei due to the destruction of Lu Jiankang. Liu Bei was overjoyed and frenzied, which meant that he had taken a crucial step in rebuilding Shu Han and restoring the glory of the Han dynasty.

    However, Chen Qun, who was Liu Bei's secretary at the time, was very worried about this. In his opinion, Xuzhou is in a delicate geographical location. Not only did he have to face the pressure of Yuan Shao's army, but Lu Bu was near Xiaopei at that time and could attack Xuzhou at any time.

    In particular, Xuzhou is still a very large piece"Fatty meat", even Cao Cao coveted it. Therefore, if Liu Bei hastily occupies Xuzhou, it will not last long. Chen Qun suggested that he make a long-term plan.

    However, Liu Bei was offered to come to the door for free"Prefect of Xuzhou"I got carried away and didn't listen to Chen Qun's advice. But because of Chen Qun's proposal, there was a lot of prejudice.

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  6. Anonymous users2024-02-07

    His Ji Shimin faction is relatively good, because Chen Jianhe Qun is an ambitious modeler, and he wants to find a person who is immature in mind and not particularly unique, so that he can complete his ideals.

  7. Anonymous users2024-02-06

    He is a man with a head and a brain, and his plan is very good, because of the suspicion, he is ruined by Liu Bei's side, and he will not be reused when he goes to Liu Bei's side, and he wants to find a master who is easy to control.

  8. Anonymous users2024-02-05

    In history, Chen Qun and Liu Bei were at odds, and Liu Bei didn't listen to him, so Chen Qun didn't want to assist him, and his scheming was very profound.

  9. Anonymous users2024-02-04

    Wait, celebrity?

    Cao Wei's famous general Chen Changwen, Eastern Wu think tank Gan Xingba.

    Ji Han bravely counted the martial marquis, and the battle of Chibi shocked the world. Funny ( wall.

  10. Anonymous users2024-02-03

    His ending was that he and his wife went to seclusion in the mountains and forests, and finally died peacefully while farming and laboring, and was buried with his wife.

  11. Anonymous users2024-02-02

    He was reused by Cao Cao, and he also became a top strategist. Comparatively, the ending is better.

  12. Anonymous users2024-02-01

    Chen Qunyanhong was very disappointed in Liu Bei, and he switched to Cao Cao's command. Cao Cao is a person who knows talents, and he has played his role in Chen Qun to the fullest, not only repeatedly promoting him, but also firmly believing in him. In this way, Chen Qun played a lot of important roles under Cao Cao, and made many meritorious contributions, which shows that Chen Yu Zao Nianqun is indeed a rare handsome talent.

  13. Anonymous users2024-01-31

    At that time, Liu Bei may not have realized the importance of talents, and missed a talent who has passed through the heavens and the earth. He is Chen Qun, the patriarch of the Three Dynasties of Cao Wei.

    In 194 AD, Cao Cao became the assassin of Yuzhou and recruited Chen Qun as a special driver (similar to the secretary general). At that time, Xuzhou Thorn Shi Tao Qian was about to die, and he was ready to entrust Xuzhou to Liu Bei. This thing is simply pie in the sky, and anyone will gladly accept it.

    When Liu Bei heard the news, he was thrilled and prepared to take over Xuzhou.

    Chen Qun came forward to persuade Liu Bei and told him: "At this time, Yuan Shu's power is still quite strong, and he is eyeing Xuzhou. If you go to Xuzhou now, you will definitely have a conflict with Yuan Shu.

    If Lu Bu sneaks up on our rear again, the consequences will be serious. Now is not the time to take Xuzhou, let's give up! ”

    Liu Bei saw that Xuzhou was such a big place, so he didn't listen to Chen Qun's opinion and went to Xuzhou. As a result, just as Chen Qun said, Yuan Shu and Lu Bu attacked Liu Bei at the same time. Liu Bei once again threw away his armor, and only then did he regret not listening to Chen Qun's advice.

    After this incident, Chen Qun was disappointed in Liu Bei, so he left Liu Bei and took refuge in Xuzhou.

    After Cao Cao defeated Lü Bu, he occupied Xuzhou. Because Chen Qun had long been famous, Cao Cao summoned Chen Qun. As soon as the two talked, Cao Cao felt that Chen Qun lived up to his name, so he included him under his command.

    Serving under Cao Cao, Chen Qun became the middle of the imperial history. In the duel between the sons of Cao Wei and Wei, Chen Qun stood on Cao Pi's side, which also chose the right direction for the future success.

    After Cao Pi succeeded to the throne, Chen Qun began to show his strength. The Jiupin Zhongzheng system he founded became the standard for the election of officials in the Wei, Jin, Southern and Northern Dynasties. In the Wei State, Chen Qun was the supreme administrative head, Shang Shuling, who made outstanding contributions to the internal affairs of the Wei State.

    Chen Qun left Liu Bei and joined Cao Wei Group, which was a wise choice. Because he is a talent for governing the country, only Cao Wei can give him a large enough platform for governing the country, and other countries need more military talents.

    Liu Bei missed Chen Qun, not only missing a talent, but also missing the Yingchuan clan behind Chen Qun, so that Liu Bei always had no support in the north. Perhaps after this lesson, Liu Bei changed his attitude towards talents, and began to become a corporal of courtesy and virtuousness, and he was eager to seek talents, so he had the later Sangu Thatched House.

  14. Anonymous users2024-01-30

    Because Liu Bei didn't listen to Chen Qun's opinion at the beginning, Chen Qun suggested that Liu Bei should not accept Xuzhou, but Liu Bei became Xuzhou Mu, but was defeated in the end, so Chen Qun also left Liu Bei.

  15. Anonymous users2024-01-29

    Because Liu Bei did not listen to Chen Qun's advice at that time and was repelled by Yuan Shu and Lu Bu, Chen Qun also saw Liu Bei clearly and felt that he was short-sighted.

  16. Anonymous users2024-01-28

    Because Chen Qun suggested to Liu Bei to protect Xuzhou at that time, Liu Bei did not listen to his advice, and was later captured by Lu Bu, Chen Qun gradually saw Liu Bei's character, so he fled to Xuzhou with his father for refuge, and finally Cao Cao killed Lu Bu and captured Xuzhou, and Chen Qun also took refuge in Cao Cao.

  17. Anonymous users2024-01-27

    Because Chen ** was now Liu Bei's strength was too weak at that time, even if he could hold Xuzhou, he knew that Lu Bu would sneak attack Liu Bei, and when Cao Cao came, he directly defected to Cao Cao.

  18. Anonymous users2024-01-26

    There are more people who left Liu Bei, Gongsun Zhan, Zhao Yuntian, Yu Tiankai (left), Liu Ziping (first befriended and then assassinated), Chen Qun (first employed and then left), Chen Deng (left), Guan Yu and his family (left), Yuan Shao (left), Xu Shu (forced to leave), Sun Quan (left), Huang Quan (left), Mi Fang, Fu Shiren, Liu Feng (three veterans who have been following, the biggest blow to Liu Bei), and then Liu Bei hung up.

    Chen Qun left Liu Bei mainly because of political disagreements, Liu Bei valued martial arts over literature, and had a black history of abusing literati, Liu Bei's group was weak, and he was against people everywhere, Chen Qun followed him and was afraid.

    It happened that Cao Cao issued an order to seek merit at that time, and did not suppress the scholars, Chen Qun chose to follow Cao Cao, who had the best policy, after making every comparison.

  19. Anonymous users2024-01-25

    thought that he felt that Liu Bei was not a good monarch, and that Liu Bei's strength was inferior to Cao Cao, and in his eyes, he could have a better development by following Cao Cao.

  20. Anonymous users2024-01-24

    Chen Qun is indeed a great talent, and the Jiupin Zhongzheng system he created was to serve the scholars, and later generations criticized it as the root cause of the troubled times of the Wei, Jin, Southern and Northern Dynasties. But from Chen Qun's point of view, he himself was born in the scholar clan, and the nine-grade Zhongzheng system he participated in formulating was of course also to serve the scholar clan, which is a matter of course, is Chen Qun obliged to serve the people of the poor family?

    Liu Bei put aside the Jiupin Zhongzheng system, Chen Qun is indeed a talented person. After he took refuge in Cao Cao, he went through three generations of Cao Cao, Cao Pi, and Cao Ei, and made great contributions to the formulation of national laws many times.

    Chen Qun was born in the Yingchuan Shi clan and was already famous when he was a child. According to the records of "Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms", Chen Qun's first appearance was in the first year of Xingping (194), when Liu Bei was the assassin of Yuzhou, and Chen Qun was Liu Bei's assassin, which means that he was Liu Bei's subordinate. Liu Bei did not listen to Chen Qun's dissuasion to enter Xuzhou, and Xuzhou changed hands several times and finally fell into the hands of Cao Cao.

    However, when Cao Cao broke Lu Bu, Chen Qun's father and son were in Lu Bu's army, and when they saw Cao Cao, they abandoned Liu Bei and took refuge in Cao Cao.

    Liu Bei Liu Bei is a very good person, from the perspective of time, Chen Qun has been under Liu Bei for more than 3 years, and Liu Bei can't make Chen Qun return to his heart. For Liu Bei, I have to say that this is a pity. To put it simply, Liu Bei missed out on a very good talent.

    Chen Qun's departure from Liu Bei to Cao Cao was obviously also well thought out. So why did Chen Qun leave Liu Bei?

    1.Chen Qun may look down on Liu Bei's background. Chen Qun was born in a scholar family, Liu Bei was born in a poor family, and the ancients attached great importance to their background, so Chen Qun may not look down on Liu Bei, but Cao Cao, who was also born in a wealthy family, is more in line with Chen Qun's requirements.

    Cao Cao 2Chen Qun was not optimistic about Liu Bei's future. Although Liu Bei has been very depressed for a long time, most people can see that Liu Bei is not a thing in the pool after all.

    However, it depends on who to compare with, maybe Chen Qun also thinks that Liu Bei is not simple, but if Liu Bei is compared with Cao Cao, Chen Qun will obviously think that it will be better to follow Cao Cao's future.

    3.Chen Qun took refuge in Yuzhou and Xuzhou, and taking refuge in Liu Bei was only a temporary idea, and he may never have thought of sincerely serving Liu Bei. Historical records do not record how Chen Qun and his father Chen Ji came to Yuzhou, but judging from the situation at the time, it may be that the hometown of Yingchuan suffered a military disaster and came to escape the war, in fact, Yuzhou and Xuzhou are also frequent wars.

    Since Chen Qun was in Yuzhou, he happened to feel that Liu Bei was okay, so he took refuge in Liu Bei, first, he could find a job, and second, he could be protected by Liu Bei, and he could save his life and avoid disasters.

    Cao Cao 4Xun Yu recommended Chen Qun to Cao Cao. Judging from the signs at that time, Chen Qun and Xun Yu had a very good relationship.

    Both of them are from Yingchuan, even if they are not together, they should have exchanged letters. Xun Yu once recommended Chen Qun to Cao Cao and informed Chen Qun of the matter. To put it simply, Xun Yu, with Cao Cao's consent, had already found an errand for Chen Qun in Xuchang, but Chen Qun was not in Xuchang and could not be hired.

  21. Anonymous users2024-01-23

    Because Chen Qun didn't show much talent in front of Liu Bei. That's why Liu Bei missed it. And the reason why Chen Qun did this was because he didn't want to stay by Liu Bei's side.

  22. Anonymous users2024-01-22

    Chen Qun was born in a scholar family, and Liu Bei was born in a poor family, so Chen Qun may not look down on Liu Bei. Chen Qun took refuge in Yuzhou and Xuzhou, and taking refuge in Liu Bei was only a temporary idea, and he may never have thought of sincerely serving Liu Bei. For Liu Bei, he may want to keep Chen Qun, but everyone has their own aspirations, and he can only respect Chen Qun's choice in the end.

  23. Anonymous users2024-01-21

    Because Liu Bei already had Zhuge Liang at that time. One mountain can't accommodate two tigers, so since Liu Bei has already chosen someone, he can't be half-hearted.

  24. Anonymous users2024-01-20

    According to the information, it is because Chen Qun was born in a famous family, and he was named a special driver in Yuzhou by Liu Bei in his early years.

  25. Anonymous users2024-01-19

    Because Liu Bei didn't see that Chen Qun was very talented at the time, and at the same time hurt Chen Qun, so Chen Qun's opinion of him was still relatively large, so in the end, the two of them were opposites and would not be masters and servants.

  26. Anonymous users2024-01-18

    Because Chen Qun has been Cao Wei's ** from the beginning. And he has been assisting Cao Cao's son Cao Pi since he was very young.

  27. Anonymous users2024-01-17

    Because Chen Qun didn't show much talent in front of Liu Bei. That's why Liu Bei missed it. And the reason why Chen Qun did this was because he didn't want to stay by Liu Bei's side.

  28. Anonymous users2024-01-16

    During the period of the Three Kingdoms, all kinds of capable people frequently appeared in the rivers and lakes, the so-called, heroes appeared in troubled times, and heroes appeared during that period, making the historical picture scroll colorful. Especially the people who make plans behind the protagonists, and the people who fight on the battlefield ......Without the existence of such a group of people, the Three Kingdoms may not be called the Three Kingdoms.

    Looking back on the capable people around the protagonist, Liu Bei's Zhuge Liang, Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, etc.; Chen Yu, Guo Jia, Liu Ye, etc. by Cao Cao's side; Sun Quan's side Zhou Yu, Lu Su, Lu Meng, etc., are all extraordinary. At the same time, there is another very dramatic character, he is Chen Qun. Chen Qun successively followed Liu Bei and Cao Cao, founded the "Nine Products Zhongzheng System", and went through three generations of Cao Cao, Cao Pi, and Cao Rong, and made many suggestions and formulated laws, which can be described as a high degree of hard work.

    is such an excellent talent, who was Liu Bei's subordinate, and also intends to expand the territory for him and give advice. However, Liu Bei did not cherish it. Imagine if Liu Bei kept him, coupled with Zhuge Liang's super assistance, would he be the one who finally unified the world?

    As a great talent in the Three Kingdoms period, Chen Qun's talent is comparable to Zhuge Liang. But why didn't Liu Bei find out? It happened when Liu Bei was assassinating the history of Yuzhou, Chen Qun was his other driver, which is the meaning of the current secretary, when Liu Bei was still a small role, Chen Qun was able to assist him, and it can also be seen that he sees people very accurately.

    That is, his accurate vision, and finally chose Cao Cao.

    During Chen Qun's tenure, one of Liu Bei's choices changed the trajectory of his life. At that time, Tao Qian wanted to hand over Xuzhou to Liu Bei for physical reasons, and Liu Bei was also very happy to learn about it, and Chen Qun, as Liu Bei's secretary, immediately felt that this matter was inappropriate, and thought: If you accept Xuzhou, wouldn't you be an enemy of Yuan Shao, and Lu Bu is also in Xiaopei, and he can jointly capture Xuzhou at any time.

    So he told Liu Bei that he couldn't accept it, but Liu Bei was stunned by the pie that suddenly fell from the sky, and he couldn't listen to Chen Qun's advice at all, so he chose to go his own way. The result was also expected, Liu Bei was defeated. Because of this decision, Chen Qun was completely disheartened by Liu Bei.

    Moreover, Liu Bei and Chen Qun's personalities are too similar, both of them are too strong, and they are both characters who do not admit defeat, so when this incident happened, no one went to anyone. And this kind of reason was paved for him to defect to Cao Cao in the end, because Cao Cao valued Chen Qun, so that Chen Qun willingly died for him and his descendants. It is really a pity that Liu Bei gave up such a great talent as Chen Qun to Cao Cao, and it is even more regrettable that he missed out on the whole world.

    I don't know how Liu Bei would feel if he knew that Chen Qun had assisted Cao Cao for three generations?

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