If there is no Xiang Yu at the end of Qin, can Zhang Han and Qin Ziying turn the tide?

Yes, the main combat strength of the anti-Qin coalition army at that time was Xiang Yu, and without Xiang Yu, no one would be able to resist Zhang Han's hundreds of thousands of troops.

I don't think so, Xiang Yu's role is still very big, and I think it's hard to win without him.

When describing this period of history, Xiang Yu Benji in the "Historical Records" said that the Qin officials whispered a lot: "General Zhang and others deceived me into surrendering to the princes, and now I can enter the customs and break through Qin, which is very good; That is, if you can't, the princes will capture me and go east, and Qin will punish my parents and wives. ”

These surrendered Qin troops were worried about Xiang Yu's victory, and they themselves became Qin traitors who lured wolves into the house; He was also worried that if Xiang Yu failed, the Qin Dynasty would kill all their parents, wives and children. So it will be inevitable to complain about your Lord. But these whispered discussions did not escape the ears and eyes of the Chu army.

The historical record of Xiang Yu Benji said: "The princes heard about their plans and sued Xiang Yu. ”

After Xiang Yu got the report, he asked Yingbu and Pu generals to discuss, and finally the three people came up with their opinions, thinking that "there are many Qin soldiers in the army, if you don't listen to the command after entering the customs, or defect to the battle, then it will be very difficult to win, it is better to kill them as soon as possible to avoid future troubles." As a result, "the Chu army suddenly started to kill more than 200,000 Qin soldiers in the south of Xin'an City at night." Except for the generals Zhang Han, Sima Xin, and Dong Peng, the other soldiers were all buried alive.

Xiang Yu killed Ziying because he believed that Ziying was a threat to him, and killing Ziying would prevent the resurgence of forces loyal to the Qin Dynasty.

Fan Zeng should have acquiesced in the matter of killing 200,000 Qin troops, and with his understanding of Xiang Yu and his generals, it was useless to persuade him, so he had no choice but to ignore it. This is purely a personal opinion and is not necessarily true.

In fact, the landlord thinks too much, I think the reason why Xiang Yu killed the Qin people is very simple, that is, Xiang Yu hates the Qin people, Xiang Yu is a Chu person, and the Chu State was destroyed by the Qin State, so he hates, so if he has the opportunity to kill the Qin people, he will kill it!

Fan Zeng persuaded Xiang Yu.

Kill 200,000 because there is not enough food, if you don't kill it, you will starve to death if you are a soldier.

Killing the emperor was because he wanted to avenge the state of Chu.

It is because of this great general that he has a lot of followers around him, and these followers are absolutely loyal to him and have always protected him, Liu Bang can't fight him.

Because this post is nothing more than a front. And there is no real power. All his troops were taken away by Liu Bang. Even if he wanted to attack the other party, he couldn't.

You must know that after Zhang Han was defeated by Xiang Yu, his control of the army was not good, and after being defeated by Xiang Yu, his prestige was gone, and he surrendered to Xiang Yu, losing the hearts of the people, and the combat effectiveness of the army was naturally not as good as before.

It's because he's starting to flutter. It's because I'm very powerful. I only care about eating, drinking, and having fun every day, and I don't practice martial arts.

First of all, it should be stated that Qin Shi Huang died in 210 BC, when Xiang Yu had not yet raised troops, and the second year after Qin Shi Huang's death, the famous Chen Sheng and Wu Guang uprisings broke out. Then there was Chu Xiang Yan who raised troops against Qin. Therefore, Xiang Yu did not fight with Qin Shi Huang, and Xiang Yu beat Qin II and Prince Qin Ying.

In 206 BC, Xiang Yu annihilated the main force of the Qin army in Juran Nalu (now Pingxiang Township, southwest of Hebei Province), when Xiang Yu and the main force of the Qin army fought, Liu Bang invaded Xianyang, the capital of Qin, and set up the prince of Qin as the prime minister, in December of the same year, Xiang Yu learned that Liu Bang had entered Xianyang, and sent troops to annihilate Duan Xing's clan to guard Hangu Pass, Xiang Yu was furious, and ordered Yingbu to break through Hangu Pass and enter Hongmen (now Lintong East, Shaanxi), intending to eliminate Liu Bang's group. Liu Bangjun was less than 100,000, and he expected that his strength was invincible, so he tried his best to win over Xiang Yu's uncle Xiang Bo to mediate, and went to Hongmen in person to express his sincerity and shake Xiang Yu's determination. Xiang Yu let Liu Bang go, and after Xiang Yu entered Xianyang, he killed the prince of Qin, burned Afang Palace, and the Qin Dynasty perished.

It is a common thing for soldiers to be defeated, so in the process of fighting, we must not let ourselves be too proud, but also stabilize our emotions, make correct judgments, and not affect our military ability because of our emotions. On the one hand, it is because they are very proud, and on the other hand, because they look down on others and feel that others are inferior in the world, so they have suffered from other people's calculations, which led to their own failure.

Just; Probably. In this matter, there may be Liu Bang's own plan.

Xiang Liang didn't kill Tian Jiao, Tian Rong didn't send troops to help Xiang Liang, and then Xiang Liang was in Dingtao, because of his lack of ability and outnumbered, he was killed by the Qin general Zhang Han.