Liu Bei said that Ma Jian is talentless, Zhuge Liang doesn t believe it, who is right and who is wro

The Ma family is also a big family, and has some reputation in the local area, and there are four brothers of the same generation as Ma Jian in the family, among the brothers, Ma Jian is the youngest, but his talent is not worse than his brothers.

Initially, Ma Tan followed Liu Bei into Shu as a Jingzhou officer, and he successively served as the Mianzhu County Commander, the Chengdu County Commander, and the Yue Ruan Taishou.

Because Ma Tan is talented and has a unique view of military strategy, Prime Minister Zhuge Liang attaches great importance to him.

Zhuge Liang valued Ma Jian and recognized his talent, but Liu Bei didn't think so.

The battle of Yiling Shu army was defeated, Liu Bei fled to the White Emperor City after a sickness, on his deathbed, he said to Zhuge Liang that Ma Tan's words were exaggerated, and his actual ability was far less than his words, and he must not be entrusted with important tasks.

But Zhuge Liang did not agree with Liu Bei's evaluation of Ma Tan, and later, Zhuge Liang appointed Ma Tan to join the army, and the two often stayed together to discuss military strategies.

Zhuge Liang values Ma Jian so much, so Ma Jian himself naturally has some of his unique advantages, otherwise how could he get Zhuge Liang's favor.

As it turned out, Ma Jian was not without talent, and in some ways, he did have his own shining points.

In the third year of Jianxing, that is, in 225 AD, Zhuge Liang led the army to crusade against the south, and Ma Jian personally saw him off for dozens of miles.

In this regard, Ma Jian has already made plans in advance, he said, the terrain in the south is dangerous, the road is far away, even if the Shu army defeats it today, tomorrow they will rise up and make a mess, and the Shu army's current priority is the northern expedition, can not divide too many troops to the south, the only way is to surrender.

Attacking the heart is the top, attacking the city is the bottom, can have such an opinion, from this it seems that Ma Jian is familiar with the essence of fighting with soldiers.

Ma Tan's words directly hit Zhuge Liang's heart, after the start of the Southern Expedition, Zhuge Liang decisively made Ma Tan's suggestion, according to Ma Tan's words to pardon Meng Shu, sure enough, after this time, the hearts of the people in Nanzhong were instantly subdued, and Zhuge Liang was alive, and the south did not dare to rebel again.

To assist Zhuge Liang in pacifying the Southern Barbarians, Ma Tan can be said to have contributed a lot.

In terms of strategy, Ma Jian is also very proficient, and he almost killed Sima Yi with a counter-strategy.

At that time, Emperor Cao Rong of Wei Ming had just ascended the throne, and Sun Quan took advantage of Cao Pi's death and the turmoil in the Wei court, and personally led the army to attack Wei, and Sima Yi led his troops to repel the Wu army, so he was promoted to hussar general.

Then, Cao Rong ordered Sima Yi to be stationed in Wancheng and supervise the military of Jing and Henan.

Both were wrong. Ma Tan is indeed talented, but after being praised by Zhuge Liang, he is a little arrogant, so there will be the loss of the street pavilion behind.

Liu Bei was right, Zhuge Liang was wrong. Because Ma Jian can only talk on paper, he will not really lead the army, and he does not have any actual combat experience.

History has proven that Liu Bei was right. Ma Tan did exaggerate, and the fiasco of the street pavilion ruined the hope of the Northern Expedition.

Those who are familiar with the Three Kingdoms know that Zhuge Liang can not only arrange troops, but also be furious. Before Zhuge Liang chose to follow Liu Bei, he showed that Liu Bei had the appearance of an emperor.

Later, Zhuge Liang saw that Wei Yanfang had a backbone, so he was always cautious. Strangely, why did Zhuge Liang, who was furious, misread the domineering Ma Yan? It's actually quite simple, and here's why.

Those who are familiar with the Three Kingdoms know that Zhuge Liang can not only arrange troops, but also be furious. At the beginning, before Zhuge Liang chose to chase Liu Bei, he showed that Liu Bei had the appearance of an emperor. Later, Zhuge Liang saw that Wei Yanfang had a backbone, so he was always cautious.

Strangely, why did Zhuge Liang, who was furious, misread the domineering Ma Yan? It's actually quite simple, and here's why.

Zhuge Liang loves talent In Zhuge Liang's opinion, Ma Huai's talent completely crushed anyone in the late Three Kingdoms period. However, since Ma Jian had never led troops to fight, Zhuge Liang wanted to take this opportunity to let Ma Jian exercise.

Moreover, Zhuge Liang knew that his life was dying. If Ma Jian really made a great contribution this time, Zhuge wanted to train Ma Jian to be the next prime minister. But the reckless man Ma Jian disappointed Zhuge Liang, otherwise Zhuge Liang would not have burst into tears when he cut Ma Tan.

Although Zhuge Liang and Ma Jian are just ordinary colleagues, in the years that Ma Jian has worked with him, Zhuge Liang has imperceptibly regarded Ma Jian as his son. Otherwise, according to Zhuge Liang's hands-on personality, how could he discuss military aircraft with Ma Yan?

And this discussion is a whole day. In this Shu Han camp, no one except Ma received such an honor. Try asking? What father doesn't trust his children? Therefore, it is reasonable for Zhuge Liang to trust Ma Yan.

To sum up, we can see that although Ma Tan was stubborn and self-serving, he did not show it in the years he worked with Zhuge Liang. On the contrary, Ma Jian has always appeared in front of Zhuge Liang with a cautious attitude, and Zhuge Liang and Ma Jian are father and son.

So Zhuge Liang mistakenly blamed Ma Tan and asked him to take on the heavy responsibility of guarding the street pavilion. Everyone, do you think that if Zhuge Liang changes to guard the street, the first Northern Expedition will fail?

may be because Zhuge Liang himself likes Ma Jian very much, and Ma Jian is scheming, so Zhuge Liang will misunderstand him.

No matter how smart a person is, there are times when they make mistakes, everyone can make some mistakes, and Zhuge Liang is also an ordinary person, and he will not be an exception.

Although Zhuge Liang is very smart, he is not particularly good at employing people, so it is easy to misunderstand others.

People's hearts are separated from their stomachs, and Ma Jian is very good at pretending, even if Zhuge Liang is particularly smart, he can't see through people's hearts.

Although he is very smart, it doesn't mean that he knows everything he can, and there are many things that he hasn't seen through, because he doesn't have a special understanding of many things.

Ma Tan was originally a person who was bent on going his own way, stubborn and Kaifeng's own use, Zhuge Liang was under his command because of his ability, and trusted him very much, but he did not obey Zhuge Liang's orders, and the final result was caused by himself.

Because Ma Tan's appearance was too confusing, Zhuge Liang also misunderstood him and made a wrong decision.

Because everyone is not perfect, and everyone has their mistakes.

Because this person has never practiced, Zhuge Liang doesn't understand, and the real him is very arrogant.

This is because he has made some mistakes in looking at people, and he only sees the person's contributions, but he does not see his shortcomings.

Anyone who has read "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" knows that in the war between Shu and Wei, there was Ma Jian who carelessly lost the street pavilion, and then Zhuge Liang beheaded Ma Jian with tears. So why didn't Zhuge Liang see that Ma Jian was incompetent before sending troops, and only found out that he was incompetent after the street pavilion was lost? I think there are two reasons for this.

The first reason is that Zhuge Liang thinks that Ma Jian is more capable. Especially when the southern expedition to Meng, Ma Jian put forward the strategic policy of "attacking the heart first, attacking the city below, the mental war as the top, and the soldiers as the bottom", so that the Shu army won a complete victory, and Zhuge Liang was impressed by Ma Tan through this war, and he felt that Ma Tan had something outstanding. Although Liu Bei warned Zhuge Liang on his deathbed:

Ma Yan's words are exaggerated and cannot be used. This means that Ma Tan is a bit of an exaggerated person, has no real skills, and can't give him important tasks. But Zhuge Liang felt that Ma Jian was still very talented through his conversation with Ma Jian and in the march and battle.

That's why I was entrusted with a heavy responsibility.

The second reason is that Zhuge Liang and Ma Jian have a very good personal relationship, and it is said that the two are still related. often talked about military affairs together, and Ma Jian won Zhuge Liang's favor and reuse with his outstanding military genius and strategy. When sending troops to guard the street pavilion, Zhuge Liang didn't plan to let Ma Jian go at first, it was Ma Jian who took the initiative to ask for war and set up a military order, which made Zhuge Liang unable to refuse, first, for fear of hitting Ma Tan's morale and self-esteem, and secondly, he also wanted to gamble to see if Liu Bei was wrong, or he was wrong.

That's why I agreed to go to the town to guard the street pavilion. In fact, Zhuge Liang himself was not at ease, and sent Wang Ping as a deputy to assist Ma Jian in the future. Before leaving, Zhuge Liang repeatedly told him that he must set up camp and defend the city.

As a result, Ma Tan thought that he was familiar with military books and had combat experience, so he resolutely refused to listen to Wang Ping's advice, insisted on going his own way, and set up the camp on the mountain, so that the Wei army was cut off from water and food, and the army's morale was discouraged, and finally the street pavilion was lost.

This failure, Zhuge Liang has the responsibility of using people inappropriately, Ma Jian lacks actual combat experience, and can only talk on paper, which Liu Bei has already warned, but Zhuge Liang was blinded by Ma Yan's words, and finally fell into the consequence of Zhuge Liang slashing Ma Jian with tears.

When Liu Bei was in the city of Emperor Bai, he warned Zhuge Liang to be cautious about using horses. But Zhuge Liang did not pay attention to Liu Bei's warning. It can also be seen that Zhuge Liang has no ability to recognize people. So much so that after Ma Tan lost the street pavilion, Zhuge Liang finally found out that Ma Tan could only talk.

I think Zhuge Liang has been deceived by Ma Jian before, Ma Jian can only talk on paper, Zhuge Liang talked to Ma Jian and found that Ma Jian was talented, but he never saw Ma Jian really practice, which means that Ma Jian is just a person who can talk about it, and Zhuge Liang coaxed the group around, and he wanted to give his military status to Ma Tan, and he was deceived by Ma Jian all the time, and then took Ma Tan's suggestion to win the battle, this is just an accidental chance, and Zhuge Liang is not a fairy It is normal to make mistakes.

Although Ma Tan is familiar with the art of war, he lacks actual combat experience, and Zhuge Liang also knows this very well, but Ma Tan is sleek and understands Zhuge Liang's thoughts, so Zhuge left him, as for letting Ma Tan lead the army alone, it was Zhuge Liang's mistake.

Liu Bei once talked to Zhuge Liang about Ma Ji, but Zhuge Liang didn't take it to heart, every time Zhuge Liang and Ma Ji talked all night, the two chatted very speculatively, thinking that he was a genius, but Ma Ji only stayed in theory and had no practical experience.

If you are thirsty for talent, sometimes you may not be able to see the real talent and learn, and you will only know it when you use it, so there is an insurmountable gap between theory and practice.

Because he is not omnipotent, although he is very powerful, he can also be blinded by some things.

Zhuge Liang was born in an official family, and he is a literati like Ma Yan, and he has a feeling of sympathy. And Ma Tan is good at talking on paper, and the head of what he says is the Tao, Zhuge Liang is an ordinary person, and there are times when he can't understand people clearly.

In fact, Ma Jian is very talented, and many of the things he did for Zhuge Liang were close to perfection, so much so that Zhuge Liang forgot about it.

In fact, Zhuge Liang is very likely to see it, just thinking that he has such a thorough layout, he should not make a big mistake in doing things according to the rules.

Zhuge Liang didn't see it, maybe Zhuge Liang also saw it, maybe for some reason he just didn't say it.

Zhuge Liang could see that Ma Jian was his student, and he respected his teacher very much, Zhuge Liang thought that he was a malleable talent who could make up for his shortcomings and become useful, so Zhuge Liang appointed him.