Zhuge Liang s Longzhong and Lu Su s couch strategy, which strategic vision is better?

Zhuge Liang's Longzhong pair is even better. Based on the comparison of the strength of Liu Bei and Sun Quan at that time, it is obvious that Sun Quan's strength is much stronger than Liu Bei, but Lu Su's strategic planning has not helped Sun Quan to achieve better development, Jiangdong is still that Jiangdong, and his strength has not been greatly developed, and Liu Bei has jumped from an exiled warlord to an emperor sitting on two states.

Zhuge Liang's Longzhong is even better, because Zhuge Liang's Longzhong has a more long-term vision and a broader strategic pattern than Lu Su's couch strategy.

Zhuge Liang's Longzhong pair is even better. Zhuge Liang helped Liu Bei lay down the territory, and divided the world into three points according to his ideas.

I believe that many friends' image of Lu Su is the image of a good man in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms, and in the book, Lu Su was able to conclude an alliance with Shu Han many times and stabilized the situation in the world. In history, Lu Su actually has a great strategy, and the strategy proposed is actually more ambitious than Zhuge Liang's concept of "three points of the world", so what is the strategy proposed by Lu Su? What is the image of Lu Su in history?

Today, I will talk to you about this topic in detail. <>

Lu Su's ability to become famous is the story of him and Zhou Yu, when Zhou Yu led the army to the area of the Lu Su family, and wanted to ask Lu Su to support him. At this time, Lu Su did not hesitate to directly divide half of his family property to fund Zhou Yu's army. Later, because of this, he was introduced to Sun Quan by Zhou Yu.

After meeting Sun Quan, Lu Su showed extraordinary talent, at this time Lu Su also put forward his own idea, he said that Sun Jiadang should first base himself in the Jiangnan region, and then try his best to expand to the north, take Jingzhou so that Jingzhou can take Jingzhou's geographical advantages, and take Bashu to the west to divide the world. <>

When it comes to the comparison of Lu Su and Zhuge Liang's strategies, in fact, it seems that the strategies of the two are similar at the beginning. Because at the earliest, Liu Bei went to ask Zhuge Liang to discuss major events in the world. At this time, Jingzhou was still among Liu Biao, and Zhuge Liang was able to foresee the trend of the world's stuffy dates.

And later the change of the situation in the world, after Liu Biao died of illness, Cao Cao took the opportunity to go south, wanting to pacify Jiangnan in one fell swoop, after the battle of Chibi, Lu Su proposed to take Jingzhou to Xichuan strategy, it can be said that Lu Su was not considered by Liu Bei at the earliest, and Zhuge Liang was standing in Liu Bei's position, wanting to consider how to achieve a career of demolition, which cannot be said because of the difference in the strategic vision of the two, and the corresponding superiority was compared. <>

To sum up, Lu Su's concept of dividing the world into two parts was still very ambitious at that time, and the situation in the world could be analyzed, but Zhuge Liang's plan to change the three parts of the world was able to allow Liu Bei to obtain the land of Xishu, and the strategies of the two can be said to have their own merits.

Compared with the "couch strategy" proposed by Lu Su and the "Longzhong pair" of Zhuge Liang's slow return, Zhuge Liang's "Longzhong pair" is more feasible and more reasonable to disturb the world.

Compared with Zhuge Liang's "Longzhong Pair" and Lu Su's "Couch Policy", the latter's first goal is to "eliminate Huang Zu and attack Liu Biao, which is actually the Yangtze River and has it".

Actually, I don't think it's much different. They all persuaded the emperor to be very dedicated. Stop coveting pleasures, which will only lead to the decline of the country.

Longzhong expressed it in more detail, and the world said that Zhuge Liang's strategic vision was high because his Qin Sui was indeed very strategic, and he analyzed the situation at that time very well, and he was also very far away.

Longzhong's filial piety is actually similar to that of the couch, which shows the importance of Jingzhou. It's just that the Longzhong pair proposed by Zhuge Liang is more detailed and more difficult to implement, and it was finally realized, so it is natural to recognize Ling Pitan as Zhuge Liang's strategic vision.

The former is generally said to Liu Bei. The latter was said to Liu Chan. Because Zhuge Liang mentioned the consequences of the Northern Expedition in these two books.

In July of the thirteenth year of Jian'an, Mu was seriously ill, and he followed the advice and led the army to "show thousands of leaves, go into battle lightly, and cover up their accidents." The so-called "lightly armed" means to march in secret, to go into battle lightly, so that the enemy is caught off guard. Chen Tangzeng, a famous soldier of the Western Han Dynasty, Emperor Yuan of the Han Dynasty, said:

Let's travel lightly for 50 miles, and then another 30 miles. It can be seen that Cao Cao did not declare this expedition, leaving behind a baggage army. The troops advanced lightly, doubled the speed of the march, and quickly crossed Kunyang from Xudu and passed the Fangcheng Pass.

From the Funiu Mountain vein to the Tongbai Mountain vein, it enters the Nanyang Basin in the southwest of Ye County and reaches Wancheng. It's going to rain, so pack your clothes. In 208 BC, Liu Beisan invited Zhuge Liang out of the mountain, and Zhuge Liang offered Liu Bei, a famous strategy that "Longzhong is right".

The core content of "Longzhong Pair" is: 1. The general trend of the world: Cao Cao, the overlord of the north, was the largest force in the whole world at that time, and it was impossible to take the initiative to confront it head-on; Although Soochow was already in Jiangdong and had gained a foothold, it could only form an alliance, not seek an alliance.

At that time, only Liu Biao in Jingzhou and Liu Zhang in Yizhou were relatively weak and could be used as the basis for starting a business. 3.Based on Yizhou and Jingzhou, we will fight for the world and restore the Han Dynasty.

First, it is necessary to stabilize the armed forces, improve relations with Sun Quan externally, and do a good job in internal affairs. When the Central Plains changes, we can divide our troops into two routes, starting the Northern Expedition from Jingzhou and Yizhou, and then we can complete the great cause of rejuvenation. Theoretically, the sponsor itself is not subject to Liu Biao, reuse, and is also protected by Liu Biao everywhere.

Even if Liu Biao died, he would not have a chance to capture Jingzhou, wouldn't he pass the throne to his son and Liu Bei? It's impossible. If it weren't for Cao Cao's help.

Liu Bei was most likely killed by Cai Mao in Jingzhou, this is a fart. However, in Jingzhou, 300 miles south of Yangcheng, Xiang, Wancheng, Mu Liu Biao no longer had a headache about how to collect clothes, as he died at the age of 67. Leaving two sons at a loss.

It seems that Liu Biao is really an "unquestionable" person. He was too old for sure of his heir, even if he died. As a result, Jingzhou strongman Cai Mao Kuai Yue and others drove out his eldest son Liu Qi when he was seriously ill, and appointed his youngest son Brittany to succeed him.

We should remember that there is a sentence in "Longzhong dui", which is very good. Roughly means: "There are advantages and advantages to crossing borders."

We are waiting for the opportunity, joint confrontation, and then "send the army to Wan and Luo, and then the general will lead the crowding", so that the two roads will come together, "and then we can claim the king and hegemony, and the Han Dynasty can prosper." This sentence seems to be seamless, but in the entire two states, there are two forces, so in the end, Guan Yu, Liu Bei and Zhuge Liang have three forces, how can they be undefeated! Liu Bei attacked Yizhou and sent Guan Yu to Jingzhou.

This is a two-part force. Later, when Hanzhong was occupied, Liu Bei would administer Hanzhong, Yizhou and Jingzhou, which was a three-way force.

In fact, the main reason for the failure of "Longzhong Pair" is that the executor made a mistake, not a problem with the strategic plan. The person who sabotaged "Longzhong Pair" is Guan Yu. It was the Northern Expedition to Xiangfan that he launched without authorization that destroyed the second strategic step of "Longzhong Pair" and bankrupted Zhuge Liang's "Longzhong Pair". ”

The failure to make the most correct decision led to the defeat of the war. may be because Zhuge Liang is complacent and closes himself, so he has never figured out this process.

Even Cao Cao, who thinks highly of himself, thinks that Liu Bei is a hero in the world, but before he met Zhuge Liang, he was depressed and achieved nothing. Of course, everyone also knows that Zhuge Liang's main role is to put forward the strategic planning and conception of "Longzhong Pair". It was also after seizing Jing and Yi that Liu Bei really had his own territory, which can be called his turning point.

However, Liu Bei invited Gao Shen there, and Sun Quan was not idle here, he also had his own plan, the most important thing was Lu Su's "Couch Pair". Regarding the analysis of the general trend of the world, for example, he believes that Cao Cao is unstoppable, and his views are roughly the same as Zhuge Liang. However, due to the different positions and perspectives of the two sides, there are still many differences, even strategic conflicts.

For example, Zhuge Liang's ultimate goal is to support the Han family, while Lu Su thinks that this is a hopeless thing.

The specific contradictions and conflicts point to the struggle for Jingzhou. Judging from the early stage, Liu Bei was able to let Guan Yu guard Jingzhou for a period of time through the method of abduction and deception. However, over a longer period of time, with the defeat of Guan Yu, Jingzhou returned to Sun Quan's hands.

It can be said that in this contest, Zhuge Liang not only lost, but also lost decently, what is going on with this fierce disadvantage?

First of all, Zhuge Liang just looked at the problem from his own point of view, and didn't pay attention to what other people were thinking, especially what Sun Quan was thinking. Everyone knows that if you want to be invincible, you must know yourself and your opponent, and Zhuge Liang has not done enough in this regard. He thought that with the alliance between the two sides, he would be able to dispel Sun Quan's covetousness for Jingzhou, which was simply impossible.

Second, there is a direct conflict of interest between the two parties. Although the two sides would quickly huddle together to keep warm when Cao Cao's troops were pressing, after Cao Cao's defeat, the contradictions between the two sides surfaced. Because what Soochow wants to achieve is"Row the river and rule"For this reason, there must be Jingzhou as a strategic barrier.

From this point of view, Guan Yu's loss of Jingzhou cannot be said"Careless"As a result, it was completely Sun Quan's side that had been planning and planning for a long time.

Thirdly, Zhuge Liang's goal is too idealistic and far less pragmatic than Lu Su's proposition. Zhuge Liang wanted to support the Han dynasty through the Northern Expedition, in addition to wanting to divert the practical factors of the contradictions, the deeper factor was to take this as a political ambition. Lu Su's goal is more pragmatic, that is, to hold Jiangdong, and for this reason, the energy they put into Jingzhou is completely incomparable to the Zhifan clan on Liu Bei's side.

However, when it comes to the most fundamental reason, it is due to the difference in strength between the two sides. After all, among the Three Kingdoms, Shu Han was the weakest side. In addition, Jingzhou was significantly closer to Eastern Wu, which made it more convenient for Eastern Wu to sneak attack, and Shu Han was unable to provide timely assistance due to geographical and other restrictions, so he could only watch Dongwu succeed.

Of course, Zhuge Liang is more clever, otherwise the follow-up development will not follow Zhuge Liang's strategy.

Lu Su's Jiangdong pair is relatively easy to practice, anyone can do it according to the strategy, Zhuge Liang's Longzhong right, only he can do it, and without it it will become empty talk.

Of course, Zhuge Liang is even better, and Zhuge Liang has also won everyone's appreciation because of this.

Zhuge Liang and Lu Su are more intelligent than Zhuge Liang no matter what.

There is no absolute superiority or inferiority, and the victory of a war depends on the right time, place and people.

I think Zhuge Liang's Longzhong is more clever because he has succeeded in many wars.

Of course, Zhuge Liang is more clever, and you can see it later.

Although Lu Su is known as wise and foolish, Zhuge Liang is more intelligent.

What I learned from the TV series is that Lu Su's Longzhong is more intelligent.

Sun Quan "thought about Huan and Wen", and humbly asked Lu Su for advice, Lu Su said: "The Han family cannot be revived, and Cao Cao cannot be eliminated." For the general's plan, the only way to stand in Jiangdong is to watch the provocation of the world.

Today, take advantage of the northern affairs, exterminate Huang Zu, enter Liu Biao, and defend the Yangtze River and then build the emperor to map the world, this ancestor is also the cause. Lu Su's so-called "Han family cannot be revived" is not contradictory to Kong Ming's so-called "then the hegemony of the town into the Han family can be revived." "Hegemony" is Liu Bei's "hegemony", and the "Han room" of "Kexing" is not the "Han room" of Emperor Xian of the Han Dynasty, but Liu Bei's "Han room".

Lu Su's so-called "Cao Cao cannot be eliminated" is the same as Kong Ming's "Today's Cao has millions of people, and the Son of Heaven is coerced to order the princes, this sincerity cannot compete with it". Kong Ming formulated a strategic plan for Liu Bei to seize Jing and Xiang first, and then to Xichuan, while Lu Su formulated a strategic blueprint for Sun Quan to fight for Jing and Xiang, and wait for an opportunity to enter the Central Plains according to the river. Isn't this another "Longzhong pair"?

Of course, Lu Su failed to foresee that Liu Bei could become the third force in the future, because he was slightly inferior to Kong Ming's gaze. Although Lu Su also mentioned the possibility of "building an emperor to map the world", his focus was "to defend the Yangtze River". This point is fully proved by the future practice of Soochow Group.

It can be seen from this that Lu Su's strategy is far less enterprising than Kong Ming's "Longzhong Pair". However, Lu Su-Guan advocated a strategy of uniting Liu Bei and resisting Cao Cao, which was even more clever than Zhou Yu. ** Zhou Yu is often self-willed.

From the comparison of the two "Longzhong pairs" of Zhuge Liang and Lu Su, we can also see that there will be fierce conflicts between Shu Han and Eastern Wu in the Jing and Xiang regions. Zhuge Liang envisioned that "when there is a change in the world, he will order a general to take Jingzhou's troops to Wanluo", and Lu Su imagined that "the Yangtze River is extremely guarded", which led to a series of changes in the later Lü Meng's white-clothed crossing of the river and Guan Yu's defeat in Maicheng. On the Cao Wei side, there were two key strategic choices.

One was Xun Yu's advance, suggesting that Cao Cao welcome the emperor and coerce the Son of Heaven to order the princes, "If you don't plan early, people will do it before me." One is the advance of Guo Jia and Xun Yu before and after the Battle of Guandu. The two analyzed the strengths and weaknesses of both sides, especially the advantages of Cao Wei, and strengthened Cao Cao's confidence in winning the decisive battle.

The brilliant victory at the Battle of Guandu laid the foundation for Cao Cao's unification of northern China. Xun Yu and Guo Jia's words are also Cao Wei's "Longzhong pair". In comparison, it is not as grand as Zhuge Liang's vision and courage.