Why didn t Ma Tan listen to his mentor Zhuge Liang and choose to camp on the mountain?

Updated on history 2024-03-08
26 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-06

    Because of Ma Yan's character, his character is full of conceit and pride, and he always doesn't listen to Zhuge Liang's words.

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-05

    Because Ma Jian thinks that what the book says is right. Ma Tan was full of military books, and he thought that what Zhuge Liang told him was wrong, and he did not listen to Zhuge Liang.

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-04

    Because when Ma Tan usually talks on paper, he is often recognized by Zhuge Liang. So in actual combat, he did not obey Zhuge Liang's military orders.

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-03

    Because he wants to show his ability and want to show his "last stand", he will have such a comical operation.

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-02

    Because he wants to prove his ability and does not want to follow the tail of others; His approach should have been to put death on the ground and come back to life, but he didn't take the position into account.

  6. Anonymous users2024-02-01

    Encamped on the mountain, easy to defend and difficult to attack, stood high, saw far away, wanted to be put to death and survived, because at that time his troops were seriously insufficient, and he wanted to occupy the highest point of advantage.

  7. Anonymous users2024-01-31

    After Zhuge Liang learned that his fierce rival Zhang He was on the expedition, he held a military meeting, preparing to send a fierce general to guard the street pavilion and block Zhang He's troops from the outside, so as to buy time for Zhuge Liang's army to successfully harvest Longyou.

    However, after Ma Tan led the army to Jieting, he carefully observed the terrain of Jieting, changed the military deployment stipulated by Zhuge Liang before departure, gave up the water source, and gave up camping at the intersection of Jietingdang Road, but stationed the troops on the south mountain of Jieting. Although the deputy general Wang Ping advised him many times, Ma Jian did not listen and insisted on going his own way.

    In the face of the murderous army of Sima Yi and Zhang He's 200,000 troops, the rising star Ma Tan was ordered to be in danger, and made a military order, and led 50,000 troops with his deputy general Wang Ping to garrison the military stronghold Jieting. After he arrived at the street pavilion, he did not have the strategy of "going down to the village at the head of the five roads" as advised by Prime Minister Zhuge Liang, but set up camp on the mountain next to him.

    As a result, after Sima Yi and Zhang He arrived at the street pavilion, they laughed heartily, thinking that the people guarding the street pavilion "have a vain name, but they are mediocre!" Cut off the water source of Ma Tan's army on Jieting Mountain, defeat Ma Tan in one fell swoop, and seize Jieting.

    Zhuge Liang's original plan was to let Ma Tan hold on to the city and block Zhang He, but Ma Tan did not follow Zhuge Liang's orders. Judging from the records of the Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms, one of the main reasons why Zhuge Liang punished Ma Jian was that Ma Jian did not follow Zhuge Liang's dispatch.

    Making one's own decisions on the battlefield is actually a serious disobedience to military orders. However, there are also many people who are curious, if Ma Tan really obeys Zhuge Liang's military orders and guards the city at the foot of the mountain, will he definitely be able to stop Zhang He? Or will Zhuge Liang's proposition be successful?

    Faced with a similar situation, Han Xin was lucky, defeating Zhao Jun in a battle with his back, while Ma Tan was unlucky, fighting with his back, being beaten by Zhang He and fleeing in all directions, losing everything, including his own head.

    Therefore, it makes sense for Ma Tan to set up camp on the mountain next to the street pavilion, but he was too superstitious about the "book of soldiers", and made the mistake of Zhao Kuo talking on paper, lost the street pavilion, lost his head, and buried the great opportunity for Zhuge Liang to attack Wei for the first time.

  8. Anonymous users2024-01-30

    I think Zhuge Liang's level is higher, because Zhuge Liang asked Ma Ji to defend at the foot of the mountain at that time, and after careful inference and comparison, he found a favorable combat position, and this can make the enemy have no place to start, but Ma Jian did not follow Zhuge Liang's strategic deployment and set up camp on Jieting Mountain by himself, resulting in being besieged by the enemy army and returning in defeat, which shows that Zhuge Liang's strategic defense is more clever.

  9. Anonymous users2024-01-29

    Zhuge Liang, because Zhuge Liang is very famous in history, Zhuge Liang is a military strategist, and he knows a lot of the art of war.

  10. Anonymous users2024-01-28

    Ma Tan wanted to put his death to life and inspire the fighting spirit of the soldiers, but this was only on paper. Ma Tan's opponent was the experienced Zhang He, who directly occupied the only way up the mountain, and Ma Tan was doomed to fail without water, grain and grass and reinforcements.

    The task given to Ma Tan by Zhuge Liang was to hold Ma Ting and prevent Zhang He's army from continuing to advance, but Ma Tan did not do what Zhuge Liang instructed. Ma Tan didn't even need to win the battle, as long as he could stop Zhang He, the mission would be successful. The army led by Zhuge Liang is the main force, and what Ma Tan has to do is to cooperate with Zhuge Liang to contain Zhang He.

    Once Ma Tan's mission fails, the main army of Shu will face a situation where the enemy will be attacked on the back.

    Zhuge Liang also sent another person to assist Ma Tan, but Ma Jian felt that he needed to grasp a certain initiative to fight, so he ran to the mountains and set up camp. Zhuge Liang sent Wang Ping to assist Ma Tan, although Wang Ping's army was only 1,000 people, but all of them could fight, but Ma Jian did not make good use of this army. Zhuge Liang also sent Gao Xiang and Wei Yan to meet Ma Jian on the left and right sides of the street pavilion respectively, Zhuge Liang had already paved the way for Ma Tan, but Ma Jian had to follow what he thought.

    Ma Jian camped on the mountain, thinking that this would be able to occupy the natural danger, but he didn't know that this would only make others lose food and water. Zhang He knew that after Ma Tan set up camp on the mountain, of course he would not attack the mountain stupidly. He sent troops to block Ma Tan's back road, cut off Ma Tan's water source and reinforcements, so that Ma Jian was a turtle in an urn.

    His plan was easily cracked by the other party, Ma Jian could only be in a hurry, and the task given to him by Zhuge Liang failed. ‍

  11. Anonymous users2024-01-27

    Ma Tan did not listen to Zhuge Liang's admonition to camp on the mountain, with his theory is condescending, easy to defend and difficult to attack, observe the enemy situation at any time, easy to find the enemy's movements, convenient to guard the street pavilion. However, he ignored that once surrounded by enemy troops, although he could see the movement of enemy troops, he was no longer able to kill the enemy. This also illustrates Ma Tan's short-sightedness, pride and underestimation of the strength of the enemy's army, which is also the internal reason for his loss of the street pavilion.

  12. Anonymous users2024-01-26

    In fact, Ma Jian also has a certain military talent, or Zhuge Liang can't be entrusted with important tasks. Because he is full of military books and knows the art of war, he also gave Zhuge Liang a lot of strategies in peacetime battles. It's just that it applies tactics too rigidly.

    It is believed that condescending to have the advantage of height, and killing the enemy from a high place to a low place can be overwhelming. Logically speaking, it's still possible. It's just that he met Sima Yi, and Sima Yi adopted the method of besieging and cutting off the water source.

  13. Anonymous users2024-01-25

    Ma Tan did not listen to Zhuge Liang's admonition and camped on the mountain, the main reason for this was that he only knew how to copy the book of war, and did not know that according to the battle situation at that time, if he could follow Zhuge Liang's advice, coupled with Wang Ping's assistance, then he should guard the street pavilion, and there should not be too much of a problem.

  14. Anonymous users2024-01-24

    Easy to defend and difficult to attack, grasp the initiative to attack. Ma Tan is talented, but he is not the kind that is in charge alone, and he can be a strategist. Ma Jian used to follow Zhuge Liang, and Zhuge Liang checked it, so he could make good use of it.

    When I pulled it out alone, I felt that I was very good and easy to swell, and ignored Wang Ping's many admonitions, and finally missed Qingqing's life.

  15. Anonymous users2024-01-23

    Ma Tan was only a civilian official at the time, and had no experience in warfare, so he really had no generals at that time, so he was sent to lead troops to guard the street pavilion, Zhuge Liang asked him to camp on the main road, which was actually decided according to the local terrain, but he did not listen to Zhuge Liang, which led to the failure of that battle.

  16. Anonymous users2024-01-22

    Condescending, easy to defend and difficult to attack. But he ignored the water source.

  17. Anonymous users2024-01-21

    This is Zhuge Liang's failure, improper use of people, do not trust others, if Wang Ping is used, history may be rewritten!! But it didn't trust him!!

  18. Anonymous users2024-01-20

    There is no reason, self-righteousness.

  19. Anonymous users2024-01-19

    Condescending, easy to defend and difficult to attack!

  20. Anonymous users2024-01-18

    Her personality is in a hurry and wants to get a credit first.

  21. Anonymous users2024-01-17

    Rigidly set the art of war, condescendingly, using the ground to defend the street pavilion! But they forgot that the water source is in a low-lying place!

  22. Anonymous users2024-01-16

    Because Ma Jian thinks that his claim is correct. He believed that camping on the mountain could be attacked, retreated, and defended, and that it was a very favorable terrain.

  23. Anonymous users2024-01-15

    Because Ma Tan is self-righteous, he always wants to prove his ability to disobey military orders. There is no justification for what he did.

  24. Anonymous users2024-01-14

    Of course, there is some truth to it, after all, it is condescending and easy to defend, but it ignores the problem of water sources, which leads to failure.

  25. Anonymous users2024-01-13

    There is a certain amount of truth to this, because only in this way can they better understand the opponent's lineup.

  26. Anonymous users2024-01-12

    Of course, there is some truth to it. I think it's a wise choice for Ma Tan to camp in the mountains.

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