Ma Tan lost the street pavilion, why didn t Zhuge Liang give him a chance to atone for his crimes?

Updated on history 2024-02-25
18 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-06

    Because the basket that Ma Tan stabbed this time was too big, Zhuge Liang couldn't protect him. Zhuge Liang went out of Qishan six times, and the closest thing to victory was this time, the location of the street pavilion was very important, it was the only way on the supply line of Shu, and it was the only grain route in Shu. Zhuge Liang's many failed conquests of Wei were due to the problem of grain and grass, and the road of Shu was not easy to walk, and it was very difficult for Shu to smoothly transport grain and grass.

    Guarding the street pavilion can reduce the difficulty of transporting grain and grass in Shu, and avoid Zhuge Liang's worries, Ma Jian told Ma Tan many times before the expedition that he must hold the street pavilion, but due to Ma Tan's mistake, the street pavilion was finally lost, resulting in the failure of the Northern Expedition.

    Ma Tan is also an outstanding talent in the Three Kingdoms, and he has always followed Zhuge Liang's side. In the later period, Shu was really a withering talent, especially military talents, "there is no general in Shu, Liao Hua is the vanguard" The saying fully reflects this, and Zhuge Liang's unavailable is also the reason for the failure of his Northern Expedition.

    In fact, when Liu Bei was in the White Emperor City, he once reminded Zhuge Liang。Ma Tan is just a boastful son, he has no real talent to learn, and he can't be reused in the future. Zhuge Liang's reuse of Ma Jian is really no way, there is really no talent in Shu Kingdom, Ma Jian can barely be used, the lack of talent is the biggest root cause of Shu Han's eventual demise.

    The loss of the street pavilion actually has a lot to do with Zhuge Liang. Although Ma Tan learned a lot from Zhuge Liang, he had no experience in leading troops independently, and he had many similarities with Zhao Kuo, who talked about soldiers on paper. And Zhuge Liang also felt that Ma Jian could not take on such an important task, and many generals couldn't understand why Zhuge Liang did this, if it was Wang Ping or Wei Yan guarding the street pavilion, maybe they wouldn't have lost it.

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-05

    Although Zhuge Liang valued Ma Yan, he still refused to give him a chance to make up for his mistakes. It was not for Zhuge Liang's own selfishness, nor for the sake of face, but for the sake of the stability of the Shu regime.

    The first Northern Expedition failed, and the regime of Shu Han was also in turmoil at that time. If the law is not established, Zhuge Liang's road to power will be more difficult in the future. This situation is different from the Huarong Dao of that year, when it happened to be just after the victory of the Chibi War, and there was a lot of joy up and down.

    Although Guan Yu made a military order, it was impossible to really kill him to show his prestige.

    When Zhuge Liang killed Ma Yan, the Shu Han regime had already declined, and there were no talents in the later period. Some of the five tiger generals who once dominated the territory are dead, and some are old, so there is a saying that there is no general in Shu. No matter how much Zhuge Liang regrets talents, he must also tear up his horses.

    After being beheaded, Shu Han also collapsed, and the lack of talent was the biggest root cause of Shu Han's eventual demise.

    Let's review how Ma Jian fought, Zhuge Liang handed over the important town street pavilion to Zhiyong Shuangquan during the first Northern Expedition, but Ma Jian did not have the experience of leading troops alone. Ma Tan lacked actual combat experience for a long time, and did not stick to the city, but stationed the camp on the mountain, this strategy was effective for ordinary enemy generals. It's a pity that he met Zhang He, a famous general of the Wei army, how many years of fighting, Zhang He still can't see Ma Tan's thoughts.

    Zhang He immediately seized the opportunity to take down the street pavilion on the battlefield, and the killed Ma Tan fled. Luo Guanzhong also added oil and vinegar to write an empty city plan in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms, although there is no such thing as an empty city plan in history, but Zhuge Liang was shocked and suffered heavy losses. Ma Tan, who finally escaped, was also ordered to be beheaded after meeting Zhuge Liang.

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-04

    Because he understands Ma Yan, there are many things that cannot be remedied, so he was not given a chance.

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-03

    Because he knew that the horse was not good, he was too arrogant to do one thing, and he didn't dare to use it.

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-02

    Zhuge Liang calculated that he was not a person to work with, so he didn't give him a chance.

  6. Anonymous users2024-02-01

    Because he understands Ma Yan, there are many things that cannot be remedied, and he must be held responsible.

  7. Anonymous users2024-01-31

    Ma Tan lost the street pavilion, because Zhuge Liang couldn't give him a chance, and he had to be held responsible.

  8. Anonymous users2024-01-30

    There is a loss for his failure to Zhao Cheng of Shu is too great, and it will affect himself.

  9. Anonymous users2024-01-29

    Ma Tan's prestige among the Shu Han soldiers was gone, and he not only failed Zhuge Liang's trust in him, but also his expectation of entrusting the military state with important tasks in the future.

  10. Anonymous users2024-01-28

    Because even if you are given the opportunity, you can't do anything, and you can make meritorious contributions in the future.

  11. Anonymous users2024-01-27

    There are some things that cannot be remedied, so we don't give them a chance to atone for their sins.

  12. Anonymous users2024-01-26

    Ma Tan, a soldier who joined the army, was not given a chance to atone for his crimes when Zhuge Liang was on the Northern Expedition.

  13. Anonymous users2024-01-25

    The five tiger generals who once dominated the battlefield are all old, so there is a saying, there were no generals in Shu, Liao Hua was a pioneer, and Ma Su's prestige among the soldiers of Shu Han no longer existed. He not only betrayed Zhuge Liang's trust in him, but also expected to hand over important tasks to the military state in the future.

    Ma Su, who joined the army, was not ordered to atone for his sins during Zhuge Liang's Northern Expedition After Ma Su accidentally lost the pavilion, Zhuge Liang would never regret his talent, but killed him with tears. Since then, Zhuge Liang's Northern Expedition has achieved little. It can be said that the lack of talent is the biggest root cause of the eventual demise of Shu Han.

    So, we can't help but ask, why can't such a talented Ma Su learn from Guan Yunchang, who let Cao Cao go to Huarong Dao, in the first expedition, Zhuge Liang handed over the important town to Ma Su, Ma Su was smart and brave, but had no experience in leading troops alone. However, Ma Youchang, who lacked actual combat experience, did not defend the city, but stationed his camp on the mountain. Perhaps this strategy worked for the generals, but alas, he met the famous Wei general Zhang Ying.

    Zhang Ying took the opportunity to capture the street pavilion on the battlefield and hurriedly killed Ma Su. When Luo Guanzhong wrote this paragraph in "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", he also added the ancient masterpiece "Empty City Map". Although there was no empty city plan in history, it also made Kong Ming lose face and suffered heavy losses.

    Ma Su, who could not escape, was beheaded when he met Zhuge Liang.

    During Ma Su's execution, the famous generals in Shu, including Jiangwan, were persuading Zhuge Liang that if Zhuge Liang wanted to open his net, he could take this step。At the same time, Ma Su's death also made him sad, "Su was imprisoned for something, and Liang shed tears for it."

  14. Anonymous users2024-01-24

    <> "Why did Zhuge Liang dispose of Ma Yan?"

    At that time, when Liu Bei was in the Lonely White Emperor City, Liu Bei told Zhuge Liang three times that he exaggerated this defeat and let him personally, and Ma Jian didn't use much. Remember. However, Zhuge Liang did not agree with Liu Bei's views at that time.

    He thought that Ma Jian was a clever talker at that time and repeatedly showed his outstanding characteristics, so Zhuge Liang often took him to talk about military affairs. However, Zhuge Liang at that time did not arrange important positions for Ma Tan, but only asked for his opinion before each expedition to see what Ma Jian could do.

    At that time, Ma Jian also had questions to answer and was deeply valued by Zhuge Liang. But at that time, Ma Jian was eager to make meritorious contributions, because no matter who he replaced, he couldn't stand grinding military issues every day, but he couldn't really put them into practice. So when Sima Yi led the troops to attack, Ma Jian made a military order in front of Zhuge Liang, asking him to go to the street pavilion to meet Sima Yi.

    However, as Liu Bei expected, Ma Jian could only talk on paper, and he couldn't stand up to the big prophecy.

    In the end, Ma Tan lost the street pavilion, and Zhuge Liangkong saved himself. In the end, Zhuge Liang could only cry and kill the horse. At that time, after arriving at the street pavilion, Ma Su decided to take the initiative.

    He wanted to defeat Zhang He in the first battle so he could gain the upper hand before the main force arrived. Therefore, Ma Jian was anxious to win this battle. Moreover, Ma Tan wanted to camp in the mountains at that time.

    Because there is no danger in the city below the mountain. The commanding heights have an offensive advantage. First of all, Ma Tan wanted to win the first battle, so as to strengthen the prestige of the Shu army.

    But he overestimated the combat effectiveness of the Shu army.

    In fact, at that time, Ma Tan's Shu army had not fought any major battles at all. The only battle he participated in was the Battle of Yiling, which ended in a crushing defeat. The Northern Expedition organized by Zhuge Liang was the first battle of the Shu army.

    At that time, Zhang He's army was experienced on the battlefield. Therefore, it is obviously not enough for Ma Tan to use the new army against the mature army. Second, Ma Tan's army lacked executive power.

    From the very beginning, the soldiers refused to accept the horses. At that time, he hoped that Wei Yan or Wu Yi would lead the troops, but Zhuge Liang sent Ma Yan to lead the troops.

    At that time, Ma Jian was completely a recruit at the beginning of the war. He had never led an army alone before, so everyone refused to accept him, and naturally he was deeply skeptical of his deployment. In the end, at that time, Wang Ping repeatedly urged Ma Jian to give up camping on the mountain and pull a large army into the city to defend.

    It can be seen that there was a great difference of opinion among the whole army at that time. Such a difference of opinion will certainly affect the soldiers. Therefore, Ma Tan's paper talk can only fail in the end.

  15. Anonymous users2024-01-23

    OK. The loss of the street pavilion is the result of a combination of many factors, not only Ma Tan is responsible, Zhuge Liang is also responsible.

    In fact, at the beginning of the Northern Expedition, Zhuge Liang divided his troops into two parts, one was the main force, and he personally led the troops out of Qishan. The other was regarded as a suspicious soldier, led by Zhao Yun and Deng Zhi to live in Xiegu, claiming to attack Meixian County to attract Cao Wei's attention. Zhao Yun and Zhuge Liang are separated by hundreds of miles of mountain roads, and they can only be whipped.

    This reflects the shortcomings of Zhuge Liang's unclear employment, Liu Bei said before his death, Ma Jian is exaggerated and cannot be used, but Zhuge Liang wants to use Ma Tan to guard the street pavilion. Looking at the generals like Wei Yan around him, but putting them by his side, in fact, the main reason is that he is afraid that Wei Yan will make his own decisions and carry out his surprise attack, thus destroying the set Longyou strategy.

    Reason:

    Zhuge Liang asked Ma Jian to guard the street pavilion, which is to give Ma Jian a chance to make a great contribution, as long as the street pavilion can be guarded, it is a great achievement, Zhuge Liang can naturally promote Ma Tan, and it is not a problem to worship a general and seal a marquis.

    Therefore, the Street Guarding Pavilion gave Ma Tan an excellent opportunity to show his face, a great opportunity to make great contributions, and a gold-plated opportunity, this good opportunity made many people covetous, and made many people envious, jealous and hateful, including Wei Yan, Wu Yi and other generals.

  16. Anonymous users2024-01-22

    Zhuge Liang's Northern Expedition, because the street pavilion is a military location, sent Ma Tan to guard it. Ma Tan claimed to have been familiar with military books since he was a child, and was familiar with the subtlety of the art of war, and did not listen to the persuasion of the deputy general Wang Ping, so he stationed his men and horses on the mountain, condescendingly, and regarded one as ten.

    When Sima Yi led his troops to attack, he trapped Ma Jian on the mountain, cut off its waterway, and set fire to the mountain, causing Ma Tan's army to chaos without a fight, so he lost the street pavilion.

  17. Anonymous users2024-01-21

    At the very least, someone has to take responsibility for making mistakes.

  18. Anonymous users2024-01-20

    Ma Tan lost the street pavilion and committed an unforgivable capital crime, Zhuge Liang had no choice but to act in accordance with the law and slash Ma Tan with tears. There are two real reasons why Ma Tan lost the street pavilion, the first reason is that Ma Tan is on paper, talented, and too arrogant, and the second reason is that Ma Tan is eager to prove himself and make meritorious contributions; The third reason is that the opponent Zhang He is very strong.

    1. Ma Tan talks on paper, is talented, and is too arrogant.

    Ma Yan, who is very talented, did not take Zhuge Liang's orders and advice to heart, and felt that Zhuge Liang usually had to ask his opinions on military affairs, so if he listened to Zhuge Liang's words, it would not seem that he had no ability, so he would definitely want to do another set of plays.

    2. Ma Tan is eager to prove himself and make contributions, and he is eager to make contributions.

    Ma Tan had never led troops alone before this, and he followed Zhuge Liang to make suggestions as a member of the army. Now is the time for me to lead my troops to fight, and it is also the time for me to raise my eyebrows and raise my eyebrows in the army neutrality, and I want to prove that I don't just talk about it on paper.

    Another is that at that time, the three counties of Nan'an, Tianshui and Anding all surrendered to Shu, at this time, if you hold the street pavilion, then Zhuge Liang can lead the troops to take Chang'an, it can be said that he won the entire Wei State, this is the first class of merit, no one will let go of such a good opportunity to make contributions. So Yuandan is thinking only about proving himself and taking credit, and his mind is not on strategy.

    3. The opponent Zhang He is very strong.

    Zhang He has experienced a hundred battles, not only can he be on par with Zhang Fei, but also very strategic, even Liu Bei and Zhuge Liang are afraid of him, so it is not surprising that Ma Tan was defeated under Zhang He's hands.

    The story of Ma Tan's lost street pavilion

    Ma Tan lost the street pavilion is about Zhuge Liang led the army to the Northern Expedition, when attacking Qishan, everyone suggested that Zhuge Liang use the old generals Wei Yan and Wu Yi, Zhuge Liang did not listen, and reused Ma Tan. When attacking the military stronghold of Jieting, Ma Tan did not accept Zhuge Liang's suggestion, insisted on going his own way, did not occupy the town, but occupied Nanshan, and finally, due to the problem of drinking water, lost the military important place of Jieting. Ma Tan and his subordinates were finally executed.

    After Zhuge Liang lost the street pavilion, the road of the Northern Expedition was repeatedly unsmooth, and finally ended in failure. Later, Shu Han also carried out many northern expeditions, but they were unsuccessful, which greatly damaged the vitality of the Shu Han army. After Liu Bei requisitioned Sun Quan, he also fell ill and died of hail and repented, Liu Bei's son became the emperor, and the later ending was just like what he read in "The Teacher's Table", Shu Han was lonely.

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