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The work report of the two sessions said that the new urbanization should be further promoted, which mentioned that it is necessary to support the installation of elevators in old urban communities.
Although the new houses are basically elevator rooms, there are still old communities that still maintain the status quo of staircase rooms.
Some people think that it is very convenient to install an elevator in the old community, and they agree with this idea, but some people disagree, and the result is a dispute.
The problem is mainly for high-rise and low-rise households.
For high-rise residents, it is definitely a good thing to install an elevator, especially if there are elderly people at home, if the elevator is installed, it will be more convenient to travel.
And after installing the elevator, the house will definitely appreciate a lot, even if you don't live in the future, whether it is rented or **, it will be in demand!
And the opposition to the installation of elevators is basically low-rise residents.
For low-rise residents, most of the elevators are not needed, and they may even affect their lives, because after the elevators are installed, the house will be affected in lighting, and there may be a lot of noise.
What's more important is that there is an extra property fee for the elevator, considering these problems, the residents on the ground floor will definitely not do it!
Insiders say that in fact, if you really want to install elevators in old houses, it will not only be a disagreement between low-rise residents and high-rise residents, because the elevator is added, and the high-rise house appreciates, then the relative low-rise house will be reduced, which will lead to a disagreement is inevitable.
And it is difficult to adjust and deal with, from the construction, the installation of elevators is also a certain difficulty, because the load-bearing capacity of the old house can not ensure the safety of the elevator, so whether it is necessary to install an elevator in the old house, it also needs to be considered, but the point is good!
What do you think?
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I think that although this house is an old community, but it is only 20 years, at most it is 30 years, it is unrealistic to tear down and rebuild, but if it is the kind of small high-rise, less than seven floors, the installation of elevators, the cost is too high, and it is distributed to each household, the cost is relatively large, not necessarily willing, especially the people on the first floor, the second floor, and the third floor, they feel that it is not necessary, or they are unwilling to pay for it, so I think this aspect is still to discuss a practical method.
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Whether the old house in the community should be equipped with an elevator, this depends on the actual situation, if you really install an elevator in the old house in the community, it will not only be a disagreement between the low-rise residents and the high-rise residents, because the elevator is added, the high-rise house appreciates, then the relative low-rise house will be reduced, which leads to disagreement is inevitable. And it is difficult to adjust and deal with, from the construction, the construction of elevators is also difficult.
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There are a lot of old people living in the old houses in the community, they are old, and it is inconvenient to go up and down the stairs, so it is necessary to install elevators, but there are also some problems in the cost, the elderly are not very wealthy, and they need their children to help.
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The old houses in the community need to be equipped with elevators according to reason. This elevator was not installed casually. It depends on whether the residents agree to the installation. It also depends on whether the house structure of the community is not suitable for adding elevators. A combination of considerations is required to make a decision.
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Personally, I don't think it should be.
1.Building Safety Issues:
The old community is called the old community is not without reason, that is, because the house is old, the installation of elevators, it is inevitable to make holes in the wall, destroy the wall structure and increase the pressure of the elevator on the wall. If the wall of the old house is broken or even collapsed due to the installation of elevators, who will be liable for compensation? In the event of a fatal accident, who bears criminal responsibility?
2.Cost Sharing Issues:
There are three costs for installing elevators, initial installation costs, operation and maintenance costs, and replacement costs. The initial installation cost is hundreds of thousands, assuming that the state subsidy plus the upstairs and downstairs residents can reach an agreement, after all, it is a one-time cost and relatively easy to solve. The difficulty is in the follow-up two costs, operation and maintenance costs, the annual approximate operation and maintenance costs are about 5000, this is still the current **, considering that each unit door has a few households that refuse to pay the heating fee, this fee can be collected There is a ghost, if the operation and maintenance costs are not guaranteed, it is difficult to say whether the elevator is maintained or not, do you dare to take an elevator that has no maintenance all year round?
And the service life of the elevator is more than 10 years, that is to say, after more than 10 years, the whole building will have to pay hundreds of thousands of elevator replacement costs, who will pay? And if it's so evenly spread over the cost of tens of thousands of yuan a year, do you think you can collect it all? You must know that the elevator is installed because there are too many elderly people in the building, and most of the people who do not pay various fees are elderly, and you can't do anything about them, and you can imagine how much money you can receive in the end.
Most elevators will eventually be scrapped and out of service.
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The old houses in the small old area are in great need of elevators. Generally, the old community is more than 30 years old. All very old and old.
The residents are all old residents. There are a lot of elderly people, and it is difficult to go up and down the stairs, and it turns out that no one buys it on the ground floor. Now it's a sweet treat.
** A vigorous upward growth. That someone still can't buy it. The reason is that there are many elderly people and there is a high demand.
If the elevator is installed, many inconveniences to go upstairs are solved, and the elderly are very welcome.
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You shouldn't install an elevator, because the elevator was not considered at all when the house was designed before, and now the installation of the elevator must look more abrupt, and it is not particularly convenient to use. I think the old community will definitely be re-planned and demolished after a few years, so let's just settle for it.
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The old house in the community should not be equipped with an elevator, because the floor of the old house in the community is not high, generally below seven floors, and because the community is in disrepair, many houses have reached the stage of preparing for retirement, and the structure of the house is not strong enough, and it is not suitable for installing elevators.
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First, the most afraid of the mandatory installation of the elevator, the building is old enough, and then smash the wall and smash the beam of the installation of the elevator, noise shading occupies the public stall, not to mention a single safety can not be guaranteed, not to mention the later maintenance, either the old building demolished and rebuilt the elevator room, or to buy the elevator room, do not add it later, the hidden danger is too great.
Second, the first floor and the second floor do not agree, it means that the installation of the elevator is hopeless, and the water and electricity do not need to be transformed, so they want to install the elevator.
Third, the old building itself does not exist installation conditions, there will be a lot of problems in the later stage, you just move your mouth, the elevator manufacturer is happy, the people will take the blame in the future, and you are responsible for rebuilding the building if there is a problem?
Four. The building is too old and there is no need to install an elevator, and within ten years, it can be considered to be installed.
Five. This is fundamentally a contradictory thing, adding an elevator is affecting the lighting, ventilation, and increasing noise on one or two floors, It can't be said that people are selfish, and the high-rise elevator is not also for their own convenience, isn't it selfish?
Six. It is not recommended to install an elevator, and when buying a house, it was a floor selected by yourself, and the price of each floor was different. The low-rise is not needed at all, and the height of the floor to buy is also your own choice.
Seven. The most important thing is to renovate the pipelines of the old house, dredge the sewer, waterproof the roof, and keep the building insulated. First solve the most basic problem for the people, and then install the elevator in a high-profile manner.
Eight. There are two sides to everything, why don't you avoid talking about the cheap high-rise and the expensive low-rise when you buy a house? And it does affect the lighting, the first and second floors are not good lighting, and it is more serious after the installation of elevators. Aren't these the main things?
Nine. Waste of money, no need, do not agree to install the elevator, I am a resident on the first floor, the sewer is often blocked over the years, and the upper few floors are laborious, laborious, now the building is old, but also a layer of pay, resolutely opposed.
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The old house in the community still needs to install an elevator, because now into the aging, many elderly people up and down the stairs is inconvenient, access is very difficult, the old community after the installation of elevators they will be convenient, improve the convenience of life.
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The old house in the community is not high, the top of the six or seven floors do not install an elevator, there is no need, the old house has been aged, the pipeline aging has been in a state of paralysis, in the installation of the elevator, it is not worth changing in other aspects, and the elevator alone can not bring any happiness.
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In fact, in my personal opinion, I think it is necessary to install elevators if the old community is not demolished. 01, the investment is not large, but it can be convenient to travel. You have to understand that even if an elevator is installed in an old community, the state will subsidize it, and a large part of it, we don't need to pay anything at all.
But with the addition of an elevator, it will make it easier for us to get around, and we will no longer have to climb the stairs. Now most of the new houses have elevators, we have lived a modern life with elevators, and there is no elevator in our own community, and we are still unhappy in our hearts. 02. Enhance the value of the house.
From another point of view, if the old community is very well preserved, and the old one is renovated and the elevator is installed, then its value is not the same. Under normal circumstances, if you have an elevator installed in your community, especially this kind of old house, you can sell better at the time. You have to know that demolition is becoming more and more difficult, in fact, many old houses can only be profited in the form of ** if they don't want to live in them.
Yes, from the point of view of value, I personally still think that the old community should be equipped with elevators. You should take a long-term view and don't care about the small amount of money you invest at the moment. Living by yourself can make it convenient to travel, even if it is **, you can get better income, why not?
Third, to sum up in a word, although the old community was not a high floor, there were only six or seven floors, but friends who lived on the top floor were still very tired to travel. If you pay attention, most of the old communities are inhabited by some lonely old people, or some old couples who have no children to accompany them all year round.
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It depends on whether there are many elderly people in the middle of this community, this is very critical, the reason why the old community wants to install elevators is mainly because the proportion of the elderly in the center is higher, the elderly are not physically strong, live on the 5th floor, 6th floor, and are very tired to go up and down the stairs every day, and even some elderly people are unwilling to go up and down the stairs because of inconvenient legs. The domestic elevator installation is more successful is Shanghai Smaipu Elevator, a German brand, with its own factory, there are also mature construction cases, the team is very professional, can assist in the approval procedures.
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It should not be retrofitted.
Old houses in the community. It is already dilapidated, and it may be unsafe for him to be old, so it should be dismantled, and there is no need to install elevators, wasting manpower and material resources, and wasting resources.
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As the city continues to move forward, housing prices are becoming more and more expensive, and the demolition of old houses in the city center is getting weaker and weaker, although the scope of demolition is getting smaller and smaller, and the intensity of demolition is getting weaker and weaker, but I have to admit that some old houses occupy the municipal planning or are still demolished, and like this old house that will be clearly demolished in the future, I don't think there is any need to install elevators. In the final analysis, the possibility of demolition is almost 0, in order to facilitate their own travel, I think elevators should be installed. What's more, there are still some old houses in small counties, which are neither included in the old reform, nor can they be demolished.
In this case, it depends on whether the residents of the entire community reach an agreement, and then pay for the installation together.
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If there was no elevator in the old house in the community, the elevator should not be installed again, because the age of the house is too large, and the installation of the elevator is easy to cause failure.
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The old-fashioned houses in the old community should be equipped with elevators, because many old people live on the top floor of the house, and it is inconvenient to go up and down the stairs, and the installation of elevators facilitates the travel of the elderly, but the installation of elevators in old houses needs to be applied for and inspected, and the elevators can be installed only after passing the approval.
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Maybe not every community can install an elevator, I think the old house in the community um, should be equipped with an elevator um, so that it can be more convenient um, living in such a floor of the residence, and then we. You can also improve the quality of life of the old buildings, well, in the old communities in these old communities the car is generally inconvenient for the elderly, these are also more humane.
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Should elevators be installed in old houses in the community? It should be loaded. The old houses in the community are generally lived in by the elderly, the legs and feet are not very convenient to walk, and it is more laborious, and the elevator is installed, it is convenient for the elderly to enter and exit, therefore, the old house in the community should be equipped with an elevator more than the new house in the community.
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I come: under normal circumstances, the community should not be equipped with elevators, but it is necessary to consider whether there are more middle-aged and elderly people left behind, if the majority of the elderly and middle-aged people, it is necessary to install elevators, because the installation of elevators is still good for the activities of the elderly, and there are still certain convenient conditions for the elderly to travel. Done, thank you for your question, hope, thank you!
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Should. Because those old houses are far away and the loss is relatively large, if there are elderly people in the family, it is very inconvenient to go up and down the stairs, which causes great trouble to people's life and travel. If you install an elevator, you can effectively solve this problem, and there is no need to consider buying an elevator room.
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