Li Zicheng is powerful, or is the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom powerful?

Taiping heavenly kingdom. Terrible. The Taiping Heavenly Kingdom was a feudal society.

At the peak of the peasant uprising, there were famous generals with goals, talents, and policy guidance, and they were all uprisings of the Church at the beginning, and they were not at the same level in terms of ideology and organization, and if it were not for the civil strife, it would still be very powerful. In terms of economy, the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom occupied all the rich places, and money and grain were not a problem, while the Shaanxi and Gansu provinces of Dashun were all extremely poor.

Li Zicheng. He just laid down Xiangfan, Shaanxi.

He sent troops to attack Shanxi, but he didn't expect to directly enter Beijing, the foundation was unstable, and there was no first autumn harvest on the territory, and the result was out of control as soon as he was defeated. Like Zhu Yuanzhang.

Called King Wu, he has been deeply cultivating and consolidating his foundation for more than ten years, sweeping the surroundings one by one, before the Northern Expedition, even if the Northern Expedition fails, it can be restarted.

The Taiping Heavenly Kingdom has clear discipline, and the relative military uniforms also have firearms, while Li Zicheng's army is still in the era of cold weapons, although strategically Li Zicheng may be higher than Hong Xiuquan, but Li Zicheng is like a lonely overlord, you see how many famous Li Zicheng commands? The Taiping Heavenly Kingdom is different, the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom is a force with a system and long-term ruling ability. But in the end, it fell into decay due to civil strife.

In general, Li Zicheng is a self-righteous hero like Xiang Yu and Lu Bu. And the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom is not an army led by one person, it owns shares, so the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom is stronger than the Dashun army.

Of course, it's the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom, the Tianping Heavenly Kingdom is already a complete political power, and the king Li Zicheng is a rogue, to put it bluntly, he can't compare with the Tianping Heavenly Kingdom!!

Li Zicheng is more difficult to deal with, full of resilience, and has been defeated repeatedly.

And Hong Xiuquan is a celery stick, and when he enters Nanjing, he turns on the mode of waiting for death to be blinded.

First of all, Li Zicheng was able to win, and the military system of the Ming Dynasty was related, plus the middle and late Ming Dynasty began to go downhill, and the time was not good, and the name was not good at that time. Chongzhen self-destroyed the Great Wall again, coupled with the Manchu Qing Dynasty's external troubles. So the conditions and opportunities were all there.

The Taiping Heavenly Kingdom relied on doctrine, and the impact of such words was limited. So it was destined not to win. Secondly, most of the uprisings in ancient times were oppressed at the beginning.

Wanting to rebel, changing the living situation, etc., later on, getting bigger and bigger, with power, people's hearts change, sometimes it is themselves, sometimes it is influenced by other people. It should be the ideological limitations of the peasants at the bottom, for example, they can't eat enough at the beginning, and then they are satisfied when they can eat enough, while some are selfless when they can't eat enough, and they have nothing anyway, and when they get better, they start to be selfish and have greed. Li Zicheng still wants to change their lives and eat well, while the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom completely wants to be the emperor himself.

Of course, the slogans are very high-sounding. The result was that the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom was even more extravagant than Li Zicheng. In fact, the greater the power in a person's hands, the more unrestricted it is, the easier it is to become bad later. No matter how good a person is, he will change when he becomes an emperor, it's just a matter of how much.

Because the Ming Dynasty has rotted to the roots, and the Qing Dynasty has not rotted to that extent.

From ancient times to the end of the dynasty, peasant uprisings often broke out, and some of them also established political regimes, such as Li Zicheng in the late Ming Dynasty, and the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom in the last years of the Qing Dynasty, but the same rebellion regime in the last years of the dynasty had a very different ending.

After the outbreak of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom Movement, it was finally exterminated by the Qing **, but Li Zicheng did not have the same ending, some people say that it was because Chongzhen was isolated at the beginning, and the dynasty was unable to continue to maintain all aspects of the power during the decline period, so it was finally overthrown by Li Zicheng. And the Qing ** is different, there is the joint efforts of Zeng Guofan, Zuo Zongtang and others to suppress, and the United Westerners finally eliminated the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom, of course, this is a reason.

On the other hand, there were disputes within the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom at that time, because the limitations of the peasant class had put the entire Taiping Heavenly Kingdom on a downhill path, and it was naturally better to strangle it. On the other hand, Chongzhen faced the situation at that time, in addition to dealing with Li Zicheng and the Houjin led by Nurhachi, and Chongzhen himself belonged to people who did not have rich political experience and did not know how to use people, so he finally killed Yuan Chonghuan, who could defend Xinjiang and defend the country for the Ming Dynasty, which was equivalent to cutting off his arm, which gave Li Zicheng an opportunity.

The last point is that from the perspective of the development of the times, Li Zicheng was in the last years of the Ming Dynasty, and at that time, a variety of reasons made it an accident for him to attack the city of Beijing, so it cannot represent the inevitable result. At that time, China had begun to degenerate into a semi-colonial and semi-feudal society, and it was a natural law of development to decline, so from these perspectives, we can see the reasons why the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom and Li Zicheng had different results.

The Taiping Heavenly Kingdom can only be said to be their own fun, because when Hong Xiuquan captured Nanjing and changed it to the capital, he indulged in women's sex and pleasure, and the other kings of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom were basically like this, and Li Zicheng did not start to enjoy the pleasure until he captured Beijing and destroyed the Ming Dynasty, and he didn't enjoy it for a few days.

I think the reason why Li Zicheng was able to win was also related to the weakness of Emperor Chongzhen, because at that time, it was the end of the dynasty when Chongzhen wanted to deal with Li Zicheng, but his strength declined in all aspects and could not resist.

The Taiping Heavenly Congress was also exterminated because the Taiping army was already corrupt at that time, so its combat effectiveness was greatly reduced, but Li Zicheng's army still had strong combat effectiveness.

I think maybe Li Zicheng will protect himself, he may be the most important thing to the country and him, so he has to protect himself first, so he is very selfish, to be honest.

Mainly because Chongzhen did not expect such an army to attack, so it would lead Li Zicheng to directly destroy Emperor Chongzhen.

I think Li Zicheng can win at that time. It's not that Chongzhen was too weak, mainly because of the corruption of the imperial court at that time. The imperial court could no longer fight against the powerful Li Zicheng.

Because he didn't have much ambition, he just wanted to occupy the northwest, but when he met a wonderful Chongzhen Emperor, Li Zicheng's strategic purpose was not to change the dynasty, because he knew that his foundation was unstable, and most of his subordinates were new rabble, at that time, there was a Manchu Qing in the north and was ready to move, and there was still half of the Ming Dynasty in the south, and it was difficult for him to gain a foothold in the middle, he was a descendant of the Western Xia, and his early goal was only to revive and strengthen the Western Xia (of course, in order to get the support of many Han subordinates, of course, he could not publicly say the revival of the Western Xia), So he tried to sign an alliance with Chongzhen under the city, so that Chongzhen publicly recognized that he was the king and legally occupied the northwest land, and was willing to form an alliance with the Ming Dynasty to reject the Manchu Qing of wolf ambitions, but Chongzhen, the faint monarch who had no way out, actually did not agree, did not move the capital, and did not let the prince go south, which eventually led to the death of the Ming Dynasty, and Li Zicheng originally did not intend to enter Beijing at all, so he connived at his subordinates to do a large-scale looting of property and forced Wu Sangui to rebel, Li Zicheng did not have many elite soldiers, and it was impossible to resist the alliance of Guanning Iron Cavalry and Tartars, in addition to a lot of looted property, and the speed of escape was delayed, and in the end the army could only be defeated and hidden.

There are many reasons, one is his own problem, one is the problem within his army, Li Zicheng offended the landlords and local forces, and the other is the problem of the Manchurians outside the Guan.

Because of the limitations of the thinking of the peasant rebel army and the small peasant mentality, small prosperity means peace, and there is no big strategy or big plan. Before he won the world, he began to enjoy himself, and finally failed.

From today's point of view, Li Zicheng is not a person of the same level as Liu Bang and Zhu Yuanzhang, and he is not a strategist. The Manchu iron hooves were menacing, and he was fighting with the Ming Dynasty like a nervous man, and what was even more stupid was that he didn't win over Wu Sangui, and he killed Wu Sangui's family to completely push Wu Sangui to his opposite, and finally faced Dolgon, and the result was not unexpected, how could his peasant army withstand the Manchu iron cavalry. At the beginning, he didn't understand that his real rival was the Manchu Qing Dynasty, because the Ming Dynasty was already in turmoil and precarious!

It's the same horizontally and vertically, Li Zicheng has been fighting for 16 years, and Beijing has let him fight more, and his ability is worse than that of everyone here?

Because Li Zicheng destroyed the Ming Dynasty, and Hong Xiuquan has a great relationship with them, and they are also very powerful.

Li Zicheng was able to destroy the Ming Dynasty because of the situation at that time, and some of the atrocities of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom at that time led to unsuccess.

Li Zicheng's success lies in capturing the hearts and minds of the people at that time, while Hong Xiuquan's failure is caused by his uncontrollable greed and lust for power.

Those who win the hearts of the people win the world, because Hong Xiuquan's troops have caused too much harm to the people.

Because after Li Zicheng successfully destroyed the Ming Dynasty, he must be more powerful than Hong Xiuquan.

If Li Zicheng can destroy the Ming Dynasty, will Hong Xiuquan's Taiping Heavenly Kingdom succeed, and is there any connection between the two?

Because Hong Xiuquan was a peasant uprising and did not have a strong combat ability, he would fail.

Because Li Zicheng is more powerful than Hong Xiuquan, people are different, so he can win.

Naturally, no one is the same, Li Zicheng's ability, Hong Xiuquan may not be able to have.