If the Beiyang and Nanyang sailors worked together, would they be able to defeat the Japanese navy?

Updated on history 2024-06-04
17 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-11

    If the Beiyang and Nanyang sailors cooperate sincerely, they will have a chance to defeat the Japanese navy. The victory or defeat of this war tested the determination of both sides and the arrangement of strategy and tactics, Japan had invested all its naval combat strength, and the strength of the whole country did not achieve much advantage, Japan had just completed the Meiji Restoration, and had not yet shown the strength of a great power, and there was not much gap between China and Japan, and Japan and the Western powers at that time could not be compared.

    In the early stage of this war, there were even more victories and defeats, and three Japanese warships were seriously damaged, and they were basically unable to participate in the war. After the Second Opium War, the Qing Dynasty realized that backwardness would be beaten, Li Hongzhang created the Beiyang Naval Division, Zuo Zongtang created the Nanyang Naval Division, these two naval divisions are equipped with relatively advanced equipment, combat effectiveness is not under the Japanese Navy, the Beiyang Naval Division has been able to win or lose with the Japanese Navy, if the Nanyang Naval Division can join the battlefield, increase the naval strength of the Qing Dynasty, it is entirely possible to drive them back to their hometown.

    The Nanyang Naval Division was waiting for an order from their superiors, and they already knew that the battle ahead was scorching。But the fundamental reason of the problem is that the Qing did not have the confidence to win the war, the Qing did not want to offend Japan, did not want to offend the Western powers, this war did not get the full support of the feudal ruling class, the war has reached the white-hot stage, the Qing ** determination to win the war was shaken, the Beiyang Naval Division was seriously short of ammunition, so Deng Shichang was not allowed to use his own ship to crash the enemy's **, the First Sino-Japanese War ended the Nanyang Naval Division did not receive the order to participate in the war, and many years of hard work were ruined. Both the Beiyang and Nanyang divisions became the dust of history after this war.

    This war fully demonstrated the cowardice and incompetence of the Qing **. People with knives and guns have been beaten to their homes, and they have not yet made up their minds to resist, and the Qing ** has completely become the minions of the rule of the foreign powers.

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-10

    If the Beiyang Navy Division and the Nanyang Navy Division had worked together sincerely and done their best, they would have been able to defeat the Japanese Navy. In fact, both of them are relatively strong in their own abilities. With full cooperation and hard work, we are completely capable of defeating the Japanese Navy.

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-09

    At that time, the Japanese Combined Fleet was divided into two major branches, the West Sea Fleet and the Standing Fleet, and at that time, the Beiyang and Japan encountered the main force of the Standing Fleet, which depended on whether the small tonnage wooden hull ships of the Nanyang Naval Division could beat the remaining Standing Fleet and the West Sea Fleet.

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-08

    Yes, although China's overall national strength was inferior to Japan's at that time, if the Beiyang Navy Division and the Nanyang Navy Division cooperated sincerely, it was still possible to defeat the Japanese Navy with the strength of the whole country.

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-07

    I think there is a chance to win, because at this time, Japan had just completed the Meiji Restoration, and the development gap between the two countries was not very large.

  6. Anonymous users2024-02-06

    The main thing in the Qing Dynasty was that the four fleets of the South Sea, the North Ocean, Fujian, and Guangdong would have been able to fight the combined fleet back to the Sasebo Military Port in a joint operation.

  7. Anonymous users2024-02-05

    It will not be able to defeat the Japanese Navy, but it may be able to hurt the Japanese Navy.

  8. Anonymous users2024-02-04

    **Poor strength, even if it is cooperation, it is a narrow victory, not a big victory.

  9. Anonymous users2024-02-03

    If you add up the north and south, Guangdong, and Fujian, you may not be able to win.

  10. Anonymous users2024-02-02

    On September 17, 1894, a fierce naval battle broke out between China and Japan in the northern part of the Yellow Sea, known as the "First Sino-Japanese Naval War". In this naval battle, the Qing army suffered a crushing defeat and the Beiyang Naval Division was annihilated, resulting in the Qing Dynasty being forced to sign the "Sino-Japanese Treaty of Shimonoseki" with Japan, and since then it has lost its power and humiliated the country. The performance of the Qing Dynasty Navy in this naval battle can be described as a complete bag, which greatly disgraces the face of the Chinese.

    However, who can believe thatEight years ago, it was still this fleet, and it was actually able to show off its might in front of the Japanese and show off the prestige of the Chinese。However, in just 8 years, he has changed from a "grandfather" to a "grandson", which is a shame!

    The Fujian Navy Division is completely negligible, since it was served by the French in the Sino-French War, the Fujian Navy Division has not slowed down, and there is almost no combat effectiveness. Before the start of the First Sino-Japanese War, there were only two ships left in the Fujian Navy Division that could barely fight, one was the cruiser Fujing and the other was the gunboat Fu'an. On the eve of the First Sino-Japanese War, the main force of the Nanyang Naval Division was "Kaiji", "Nanchen", "Nanrui", "Jingqing", "Huantai" 5 2200-ton old cruisers and 1480-ton "Baomin" old cruisers.

    After the Meiji Restoration, Japan has developed greatly, but all the staff and local residents involved in the overhaul in Japan have marveled at the strength of these modern **, and the sailors on the fleet are also very proud in the overhaul process, and they play freely in the local area, as if they are in a no-man's land. There was no war, too relaxed, which led to the soldiers on the fleet drinking too much, and a huge conflict broke out with the locals, and the scale of the conflict was so large that the local ** intervened in the investigation, but the Japanese police did something wrong, which led to a dispute between the two countries.

    At the beginning of the formation of the Guangdong Naval Division, it was only for the purpose of arresting smugglers and cracking down on pirates, so the tonnage of ships was generally small, and the total tonnage of the entire naval division at its peak was not more than 10,000 tons. But even so, in the First Sino-Japanese Naval Battle, the Guangdong Navy Division still sent Guangjia, Guang B, Guang C and other ships to participate in the battle, but the end of these ** was also tragic, in the battle Guang A and Guang B were destroyed respectively, and Guang C was captured and incorporated into the Japanese Navy sequence.

  11. Anonymous users2024-02-01

    The Beiyang Fleet was ranked very strong in Asia at that time, and China's crushing defeat in the First Sino-Japanese War was also due to China's corrupt political system. The First Sino-Japanese War completely opened the humiliating semi-colonial and semi-feudal era.

  12. Anonymous users2024-01-31

    Because the Qing ** at that time was very corrupt and incompetent, it was impossible to resist external aggression at all.

  13. Anonymous users2024-01-30

    During the battle between the Beiyang Naval Division and the Japanese Combined Fleet, the other naval divisions of the Qing court were on standby. At the end of the Qing Dynasty, the Qing Dynasty had become a tool for the Western powers to enslave the Chinese land, and some advanced elements of the feudal ruling class launched a Westernization movement for self-improvement and prosperity. Zuo Zongtang suggested building a strong army, while Li Hongzhang suggested building a strong navy, Li Hongzhang established the Beiyang Naval Division, and Zuo Zongtang established the Nanyang Naval Division, these two naval forces are currently the two most powerful naval forces in the Qing Dynasty.

    The First Sino-Japanese War, a large-scale naval military war broke out between the Qing Dynasty and Japan. The main force sent by the Qing Dynasty is the Beiyang Naval Division, in fact, the Qing Dynasty does not intend to solve the Sino-Japanese contradictions by force, but just wants to show its attitude, but once the war begins, it is difficult to ride the tiger, Zuo Zongtang is an active militant, he has been waiting for Cixi to issue a combat order, and immediately sent the Nanyang Naval Division to the front line to support the Beiyang Naval Division, but the Qing Dynasty ruler was forced by the oppression of the Western powers, he did not invest all his naval strength, and the Beiyang Naval Division became a victim of this military struggle and political game. The Nanyang Naval Division was strangled in the cradle without sending a single soldier, and this vigorous Westernization movement came to an end.

    The Beiyang Naval Division and the Japanese Combined Fleet entered into a long stalemate, and if the Qing Dynasty could seize this opportunity, it was completely certain that it would win by sending other troops. It's not that the Qing Dynasty can't win, it's that the Qing Dynasty doesn't dare to win, it can't win, the Qing Dynasty has decayed and fallen to the point of hopelessness, and such a regime should have become the dust of history long ago.

    The Qing Dynasty was once a great power, and Japan was not an opponent of the Qing Dynasty at all。Now that the Qing Dynasty had reached the end of its life in the local war that had the advantage of population, land, etc., the Qing Dynasty had also come to the end of its life, and the Treaty of Shimonoseki greatly deepened China's semi-colonial and semi-feudal society.

  14. Anonymous users2024-01-29

    The corrupt Qing **, the various factions compete for power and profit, they will not help each other at all, the power is in the hands of local officials, and the court orders are in vain, so there will be no mutual assistance at all.

  15. Anonymous users2024-01-28

    Qing ** at the timeCowardly and incompetent, I don't dare to provoke other countries, in fact, but the Qing ** sailors are among the best in Asia, and their comprehensive strength is not worse than that of Japan, but when the Japanese sailors provoked, they ordered all the sailors to stay in their respective ports and were not allowed to fight.

  16. Anonymous users2024-01-27

    In the process of fighting between the Beiyang Naval Division and the Japanese Combined Fleet, the other naval divisions had been transferred to other places by the Queen Mother to fight, which was also the biggest reason for the defeat at that time.

  17. Anonymous users2024-01-26

    The other sailors did not move at the station, because their strength was too weak, and even if they went to help, they were just cannon fodder sent to the door.

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