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In fact, this phenomenon is very normal, and if you and I are concerned, we are also unwilling, because for the installation of elevators, the residents on the first floor not only do not get any benefits, but will also damage their own interests, in fact, from the perspective of normal people, they are unwillingFirst of all, let's talk about the right to use, the users on the first floor are at the bottom of the building, even according to the elevator can not be used, it can be said that the installation of the elevator has nothing to do with the residents on the first floor, because it is convenient to enter and exit after the installation of the elevator on other floors, but the first floor may also feel that it is an eyesore.
Secondly, it affects the living comfort of the residents on the first floorBecause the first floor is originally lighting and ventilation will be relatively poor, but if you want to install an elevator, then there is no doubt that the lighting and ventilation will be blocked, and the first floor is the outside area will be slightly larger, but the installation of elevators often need to occupy space, so the experience is very bad for users on the first floorAnd it will also suffer from noise invasion, because the elevator will be noisy up and down, especially when the elevator is congested, it will be very unaccustomed.
There is also the problem of cost, we all know that the general installation of elevators, are the need for the residents of the whole building to share, and the elevator used electricity and maintenance costs are included in the scope of the pool, for the first floor users, I did not use the elevator, these electricity bills or something messy costs to me out, it can be said that people are unwilling, and these costs over the years can be said to be quite a lot,In addition, the installation of elevators will also affect the structure of the house for the residents on the first floor, perhaps because of the increase in load-bearing, there will be problems such as water leakage, so these are only disadvantages for the first floor.
The last word is to affect the value of the house, meWe all know that the general installation of elevators will still have a value-added effect on high-rise houses, but for first-floor users, it will depreciate, which can be said to be completely unprofitableNaturally, many residents living on the first floor will object, which is human nature.
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Modern society is a fair society, the first floor residents are reluctant to install the elevator is affecting his interests, and the same willingness to install the elevator is to get the convenience they want, so there is a conflict of interest. Only if the interests of all parties are well coordinated will it be possible to move forward with the installation of elevators.
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Actually, I think the wishes of these users are very legitimate, because they live on the first floor and don't need an elevator.
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It is understandable that there is no need to use an elevator on the first floor, and the installation of an elevator blocks the lighting on the first floor, and the increase in noise affects daily life. Reasonable negotiation should be made at the time of installation, and some compensation should be given to the users on the first floor.
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The installation of elevators has an impact on the lighting of residents on the first floor, the impact of noise, and the depreciation of the house
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It is difficult to take care of the interests of all parties in everything. As long as this can benefit the majority of people, it should be supported by the best and relevant policies should be developed from the management level to this end. Escort for the installation of elevators.
In this way, the implementation can be effectively promoted and conflicts between residents can be avoided. It has improved the happiness index of the majority of people in our country.
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They all speak from a personal point of view, they all have their own interests, and at the same time, they are all reasonable. No one wants to sacrifice their own interests for the good of others, right.
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Freedom, self-determination, idleness, non-interference in other people's private affairs.
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The old building should be equipped with an elevator, some people agree, some people disagree, if you want to solve this matter, you have to go through the following ways. It can be resolved through negotiation, some compensation can be given to the bottom households, and it can also be mediated by the neighborhood committee, news**, etc.
The installation of elevators in old buildings is a convenient measure, because people on high floors are very tired of going up and down the stairs, and some owners will be very troublesome when they are old, if the old buildings are equipped with elevators, they will increase the price of old buildings, and from the overall situation, this should be a good thing for the people. But this is not necessarily a good thing for owners of low floors, because the installation of elevators creates noise and also blocks out the sun. Usually the installation of elevators will be opposed by the owners of the low floors, in this case, can only communicate with the owners of the low floors, distant relatives are not as good as close neighbors, if the neighbors get along well, you can solve it through negotiation.
Because the owners of the low floors will not be affected, they are very convenient to go up and down the stairs, and the installation of elevators is a very convenient measure for the owners of the high floors, and the owners of the upper floors will benefit. <>
If the owners of the high floors want to promote this matter, the most important thing is to negotiate, to find the owners of the low floors for repeated discussions, and to show sincerity to negotiate with the owners of the low floors. When necessary, you can give some compensation to the owners of the low floors, after all, the owners of the low floors have suffered losses, and the environment in which they live has been affected, you can consider giving the other party some compensation. But the hearts of the people are separated from the belly, and some owners will open their mouths because of this, and they should beware of such things happening.
You can find a third party for mediation, you can find the neighborhood committee, the street, the local ** department, etc., and find them to help mediate this matter. Sometimes, difficult matters can be resolved in a timely manner through the mediation of a third party. You can also find local news** to report on it, and resolve the matter through the mediation of news**.
The installation of elevators for old buildings, because it involves the vital interests of each floor and each household, so it is normal for everyone's opinions to be disagreeing, and if you want to solve this matter well, you have to negotiate calmly, if the other party really does not agree, there is no way, you can only not install.
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This can only be negotiated and handled, only if everyone agrees, then it can be pretended, if some people do not agree, then this is not pretended, after all, the community is everyone's, not one person's.
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In such cases, I personally think that you should communicate effectively with the residents who disagree, and you can use some incentives to make them understand you.
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If you don't agree, you can negotiate with the other party and tell these residents what are the benefits of installing elevators.
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The owner of the upstairs can sue the occupants of the first floor as co-plaintiffs in court for a trial. The court will conduct a trial in accordance with the relevant laws, and will consider that the addition of elevators is legal and compliant, and mediate between the parties. After the court intervenes, the occupants of the first floor will be stopped and will not hinder the installation and construction of the elevator.
It is useless not to have a direct physical confrontation or verbal fight with him when something happens. Because the installation of elevators will indeed infringe on the rights and interests of the first floor, such as affecting lighting or affecting housing prices. Because the elevator is installed outside the building, it may not allow the balcony on the first floor to get too much sunlight.
The operation of the elevator also has a sound, which will affect the lives of the residents on the first floor, and it may be difficult to sell the house. But these can be avoided, a certain amount of compensation can be claimed, and it cannot be obstructed all the time, which is not in accordance with the relevant legal provisions. After that, as mentioned above, the court can directly make a decision, and the residents will not dare to disagree.
Some people know that this is what they should do, but they just want to get more benefits, but they end up in court, which is also embarrassing. The installation of elevators in old communities should obtain the consent of a certain percentage of residents, and if the majority of the people agree, a small number of people can only obey the majority. You don't need to use the elevator on the first floor, so you don't have to share the cost of the first floor.
As for the second or third floor, you can also set up a jam, so that the elevator can not stop here or do not issue an elevator card. If you want to take it later, you can pay the relevant fees in full, so that you can use the elevator. I think this is a good practice, and it will also make the residents on the first floor more satisfied.
Other residents can also allow the first floor to take the elevator to dry the quilt on the roof or do other things, after all, it does have a certain degree of impact on the life on the first floor.
Since we live in the same building, we should negotiate before installing the elevator, and everything can be negotiated.
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There is an option to vote for all the residents of the building, and if the majority decides to install an elevator, then the minority must obey the majority.
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You should communicate with the users on the first floor and ask them to negotiate with a lesser part of the cost, or you can ask the property for help.
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I think it is appropriate to negotiate a certain amount of subsidy for the residents on the first floor. After all, the elevator is not used on the first floor, but he needs to pay a certain property fee.
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The first floor is against the installation of elevators effective. If the existing residential buildings in the area need to add elevators, when they meet the relevant safety requirements of urban and rural planning, building structure and fire protection, they can add elevators according to the relevant requirements of Lu Song and these opinions according to the actual situation.
When an existing dwelling needs to use the common part to add an elevator, or the shape or structure of the common part needs to be changed due to the addition of an elevator, in accordance with the principles of openness, transparency, full consultation and consideration, in accordance with the relevant laws and regulations, the consent of the owners of the exclusive part accounting for more than two-thirds of the total area of the building and more than two-thirds of the total number of owners shall be obtained.
Note: Civil Code of the People's Republic of China
Article 280:The decision of the general meeting of owners or the owners' committee shall be legally binding on the owners. Where a decision made by the owners' general meeting or the owners' committee infringes upon the lawful rights and interests of the owners, the owners who have repented of the infringement may request the people's court to revoke it.
Article 281:Funds for the maintenance of buildings and their ancillary facilities belong to the owners in common. By the joint decision of the owners, it can be used for the maintenance, renewal and transformation of common parts such as elevators, roofs, exterior walls, barrier-free facilities, etc.
The raising and use of funds for the maintenance of buildings and their ancillary facilities shall be announced on a regular basis. If it is necessary to maintain the building and its ancillary facilities in an emergency, the owners' general meeting or the owners' committee may apply for the use of the maintenance funds of the building and its ancillary facilities in accordance with the law.
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This depends on the overall turnout, if the consent rate for the installation of the elevator reaches one-half, then the objection to the installation of the elevator on the first floor is invalid, and if it is not reached, it is valid.
Because the elevator cannot be used on the first floor, the ** department will give a certain amount of financial compensation after confirming the installation, but the specific compensation will be decided according to the actual situation. In addition, when installing an elevator, usually the owner of the first floor does not need to pay a fee, and generally starts to charge from the second floor.
The effective methods against the installation of elevators are as follows:
1. When discussing whether to install elevators, low-rise owners raise objections and reasons, and if necessary, they can request community neighborhood committees, grass-roots mediation organizations and other third-party institutions to intervene in mediation.
2. If you are not satisfied with the installation plan, the low-rise owners can entrust a professional lawyer to accompany them to participate in the negotiation and mediation meeting, and the attitude and demands of the low-rise owners can be more clearly indicated by the lawyer, and the opinions of the low-rise owners will be paid more attention to.
3. In the case that the coordination cannot reach an agreement, the owners who account for more than two-thirds of the total area of the building agree that the low-rise owners shall submit an objection application in a timely manner at the stage when the application is approved and publicized.
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Legal Analysis: Installation is not allowed. All owners must agree to install elevators in old buildings, and if one of them does not agree, they cannot be installed, and for the construction of additional buildings in the town planning area, legal land use rights must be obtained before applying for planning permission.
Legal basis: Article 278 of the Civil Code of the People's Republic of China The following matters shall be jointly decided by the owners: (1) to formulate and revise the rules of procedure of the owners' general meeting; (2) Formulating and revising management regulations; (3) Elect the owners' committee or replace the members of the owners' committee; (D) the selection and dismissal of property service enterprises or other managers; (5) The use of funds for the maintenance of buildings and their ancillary facilities; (6) Raising funds for the maintenance of buildings and their ancillary facilities; (7) Reconstructing or reconstructing buildings and their ancillary facilities; (8) Changing the use of the common part or using the common part to engage in business activities; (9) Other major matters related to co-ownership and co-management rights.
Matters jointly decided by the owners shall be voted on by the owners of the exclusive part accounting for more than two-thirds of the area and the number of owners accounting for more than two-thirds. Decisions on the matters provided for in items 6 through 8 of the preceding paragraph shall be made with the consent of more than three-quarters of the owners of the exclusive portion of the voting area and more than three-quarters of the owners participating in the voting. Decisions on other matters in the preceding paragraph shall be made with the consent of more than half of the owners of the exclusive part of the voting area and more than half of the owners participating in the voting.
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Satisfy the interests of the other segment. To kidnap the interests of the minority with the interests of the majority is to play hooliganism! No matter how much compensation is given, as long as one of the low-level residents is unwilling, it should not be installed!
The interests of the majority are the people's livelihood, and the interests of the minority are also the people's livelihood! Starting from the size of the interests, I thought that the 1-2 floors would definitely not be willing to do it, and the 3 floors and more than the ladder ** would be easier to do.
<> it's shameless to think so. The light on the first floor was relatively poor, and after the installation of the elevator, there were light problems and noise problems. Therefore, the installation of elevators must be approved by all the owners of this unit, and there is a veto system.
Give adequate compensation to the owners of the first floor. There is no need to discuss this kind of problem, why discuss illegal buildings. Don't use it as a pretense to serve the people.
Decades of construction, there is no need to install at all, it is inconvenient to travel, please buy an elevator room. Don't do moral kidnapping.
The country is constantly introducing policies that benefit the people, and the transformation of the old community is in the process of drastic progress, for a small city this kind of property does not give you waterproof at all, the property is furnishings, my home is multi-storey, and it is a layer, of course I agree with the elevator, according to the elevator should be evenly divided to be reasonable, let me take more I do not agree with it, recognize the uneasy elevator, I have been used to it for so many years! Policies are relatively easy to implement. But for cities, it is relatively difficult to implement, after all, the per capita income is limited, why do you have to do it now:
Demolished the carport, shoveled the small vegetable garden, brushed the façade, powdered the white corridor and other formalistic things!
I want the first floor, the ground floor without a garage, the damp cockroaches at home, the fifth floor is not, right? Why do you want to add an elevator now, and I have to depreciate my first and second floors? I don't know if I had less money to buy a high floor?
I didn't know that there was sunlight on the fifth floor? Just in time for the state to introduce the policy of installing elevators in old communities, many high-rise users actively matched the installation of elevators. As a result, it didn't matter if it was matched, and in the end, almost all the first floors disagreed, and many second floors did not agree.
Hello, the broken beam on the first floor can not be removed, which will affect the safety of the whole building, although he is a broken beam, but he also has to bear the weight of a force of the whole building, please be cautious, thank you, I hope to help you.
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