If it was the Ming army that resisted the Anglo French coalition, would the outcome have been differ

Updated on military 2024-06-21
7 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-12

    The burning of the Old Summer Palace by the British and French forces may be the most lossy war in the history of our country, the antique cultural relics collected by a country for decades have been robbed all at one time, and the most humiliating is the famous battle of Bali Bridge, our 30,000 fought the other side 8,000, and the result was that our side killed more than 1,000 people, and the enemy only died.

    And if the Ming army, let's assume that he was in those times when the sea ban was lifted, and just happened to encounter the great discovery of navigation, and then give full play to the naval power of the Ming Dynasty, just like the huge warships that scared the foreigners when the Yongle Emperor sent Zheng He to the Western Ocean, then the British and French forces and the Ming army could not fight at all, because the Ming Dynasty may have been a maritime power for a long time, and kept up with the footsteps of the two later industrial revolutions, and entered industrialization, although it may still be unequal at that time. Then, at that time, the improvement of the cabinet system was very likely to be transformed into a constitutional monarchy, and in the perfect civilization exchanges, there would not be such a thing as the British and French forces sending people to negotiate peace, but requiring people to kneel, and if peace was negotiated, there might not be a burning of the Old Summer Palace.

    And then if the diplomatic level really can't stop the determination of the British and French coalition forces to still fight China, because I think it is impossible for the Ming Dynasty to have the First Sino-Japanese Naval War and the Opium War, but if you want to do it for other reasons, the Ming Dynasty has a special firearms battalion, the Shenji Battalion, which is the world's first all-firearms ** force, and the Ming Dynasty's investment and research in firearms has never stopped.

    It was not until the Manchu Qing Dynasty that the research and use of firearms was stopped, and in the absence of a maritime ban, even if it is assumed that our Ming Dynasty did not have any development of firearms for hundreds of years, it will also purchase a large number of firearms in foreign countries to strengthen national defense, not like the Empress Dowager Cixi actually gave up buying the most developed ** in the world at that time in order to celebrate her birthday, so in our powerful firearms equipment, plus assuming that we were originally a maritime power, and then we used firearms earlier, and the relevant ** use and tactics have their own characteristics, then don't talk about the 8,000 Anglo-French coalition troops, if the Ming Dynasty really developed to the end of the Qing Dynasty, with a history of 600 years, even the later Eight-Nation Coalition Army would be easy to handle.

    However, I have to say that the Eight-Nation Coalition was the most stupid time for the Manchu Qing Dynasty, first supporting the Boxer Rebellion, and then declaring war on all countries, to tell the truth, the Manchu Qing Dynasty was really the first country in history to declare war like the world, but he was also honored to be forced to sign the Xinchou Treaty, and lost 450 million, but later the United States began to return a large amount of money to support China's education construction, Tsinghua University was created with the support of Gengzi Scholarship, and several batches of students studying in the United States were also funded by Gengzi Scholarship, It can also be regarded as the Manchu Qing Dynasty that made some contribution to modern China.

    However, history is history after all, drive out the Tartars, restore China, the strong and inextricable Ming Dynasty was finally defeated in the hands of the hungry people, maybe this is the will of heaven, China should have such a Nirvana catastrophe.

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-11

    The Second Opium War provoked by the British and French forces invaded Beijing and burned the Old Summer Palace, and coerced ** to sign a series of unequal treaties. It became a pain in the hearts of all Chinese people at that time. Many people scolded the Qing army for being incompetent, but in fact, the troops could not be blamed, after all, they were limited by the imperial court at that time.

    The Manchu dynasty was the end of the feudal dynasty, but it made people nostalgic for the Han dynasty in the past. So in the Ming Dynasty, will they be able to win?

    If there was no Jurchen force in the north, I think the Ming Dynasty would be the first country in Asia to enter a constitutional monarchy. During the Ming Dynasty, there was no sea ban. Many foreign missionaries brought Western things to China.

    For example, Emperor Wanli is still an emperor who talked about the piano. At that time, China had the germ of capitalism during the Jiajing period, and even the equipment of the Ming Dynasty army was equipped with artillery units. Don't forget, even Nurhachi, the ancestor of the Qing Dynasty, died under the Shenwei cannons of the Ming army.

    Xu Tianqi also had a new-style army in Shandong at that time. Although the situation at that time was corrupt, it was under the social trend of the time. Not all the people of the Ming Dynasty knew nothing, and people like Xu Tianqi and Li Zhen were at the forefront of the times.

    If the emperor of the Ming Dynasty solves the dispute between friends and the lord of Zhongxing appears, he will definitely do something. In light of the domestic and international circumstances at that time, it was not impossible for a constitutional monarchy to be established. Moreover, gunpowder is something invented by the Chinese.

    It is not impossible to improve the equipment. In the Ming Dynasty, although it was said to be the peak of the monarchy's centralization, in the middle and late Ming Dynasty, the times gradually tended to be liberalized. It is believed that after several generations of hard work, the Ming Dynasty will definitely win even if it has to face this war.

    The army of the Ming Dynasty has always been familiar with the combination of artillery and infantry. The Qing Dynasty was a nation on horseback and won the world from horses. Think their cold weapons are the most powerful.

    As a result, the musket team and Shenwei artillery that originally appeared in China have not been better developed.

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-10

    Why do you think so? Every dynasty has a period of prosperity and decline, and the Qing Dynasty also has a prosperous period, this assumption no one can give you a positive answer, of course, if according to the historical aspect, many people give you the answer should be "the situation is still the same", after all, this is the inevitable result of historical development.

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-09

    The same defeat, Britain and France achieved the industrial revolution, the first in the world, how good can the family inheritance of the Ming Dynasty be

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-08

    1. In the last years of the Qing Dynasty, the Qing court had been in internal and external troubles for half a century, and the government was paralyzed, corrupt, and existed in name only.

    2. The Qing army was distracted, the military and government were corrupt, and the Qing army was already a tool for foreigners to rule the Chinese people.

    3. The rulers of the Qing court recognized the thief as their father, and were willing to be the slave of the foreigner and the tool of the foreigner to rule China.

    4. The Qing court fought with foreigners and never won, which made the rulers afraid of foreigners, and the Qing army was afraid of foreigners, and they were scattered at the touch of a button.

    5. The development of science and technology and industry of the Anglo-French alliance far exceeded the development of science and technology and industry of the Qing court.

  6. Anonymous users2024-02-07

    Because the level of science and technology and industry are too far apart, a generation gap has long been formed.

    To put it mildly, in the eyes of the British and French troops.

    The Qing army, which was still at the level of the Middle Ages, was a little stronger than the Zulu in South Africa and the natives on both sides of the Congo River.

  7. Anonymous users2024-02-06

    The decay and weakness of the Qing ** are the root causes.

    From a cultural point of view, the destruction of the Old Summer Palace was an unprecedented tragedy in the history of human civilization.

    Judging from the course of history, this tragic disaster of backwardness and beating shocked the knowledgeable Chinese.

    After the catastrophe of the Old Summer Palace, the Westernization Movement appeared, and the tragedy led to national awakening and progress. In 1861, the year after the disaster, the Westernization Movement to learn and introduce advanced foreign technology was launched, but due to many obstacles, the goal of the country's "self-improvement" was not achieved for a long time, and the Old Summer Palace itself, as well as the whole of Beijing and the whole of China, continued to suffer.

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