What did Ma Tan do? So that Liu Bei doesn t value him?

Ma Tan was originally the order of Chengdu, and Chengdu is a very prosperous place with a comfortable life. And the Yuewang County where Liu Bei promoted Ma Jian is actually a remote place with difficult living conditions, so Ma Jian is likely to be unwilling to go to Yuewang County, unwilling to suffer, how good it is to stay in Chengdu! It is precisely for this reason that Ma Jian completely offended Liu Bei!

Liu Bei originally valued Ma Jian very much, and wanted to entrust Ma Jian with a heavy responsibility, but this always requires a process, and leaders have always reused a person, and they will always send this person to a difficult place to experience it, so that this person can experience the hardships of the people, and then he will be more experienced in dealing with government affairs, which is a common routine, but Ma Jian lived up to Liu Bei's expectations, which made Liu Bei very angry! When the leader needs you, you are unwilling, when the country needs you, you are not willing to take responsibility, then you will be a common man in the future, and the country will no longer need you! Since then, Ma Jian has been labeled by Liu Bei as a lack of responsibility, and there is almost no record of holding office in the imperial court.

betraying his own country, he is a person whose martial arts strength is not particularly high, his IQ is relatively low, his emotional intelligence is relatively low, and he often has conflicts with others. So Liu Bei felt that he was not a stable talent, and he didn't particularly value him.

He just lost the street pavilion, and he also fought with Zhang Fei, seriously violating the rules and regulations in the army, Liu Bei felt that he was a useless person.

What we see is only what others want us to see, and when we want to analyze a person's ability, we should look at the person from multiple angles, and we should make ourselves more objective and neutral, because only by being able to look at a person more neutrally, can we analyze the person holistically, and we can analyze the person more deeply.

There are many people who may seem to be incompetent and may not be able to allow themselves to behave rationally, but in fact they may be a very strong and wise person. Many people think that Ma Jian is an incompetent person, but Ma Jian is actually not incompetent, what do you know? Here's what I know about him:

One, he was able to make the right choice.

In fact, after getting to know him, I also think that he is not an incompetent person, he is actually a very good person, because he can indeed make himself make more correct choices, he can make himself more calm when facing difficulties, and he can also allow himself to deal with difficulties in a timely manner, he is a person who can make his life easier and more comfortable, he does not have to let himself think about more things, he can make himself more wise when choosing. <>

Second, he is good at forbearance.

In fact, he is indeed a person who is good at forbearance, because a talented person can tolerate others' accusations and misunderstandings about himself, which means that this person can let himself have more strategies in life, can let himself endure more things, he is a very tolerant person, he can tolerate what others do to him, such a person is actually a very talented person. <>

3. He is good at strategy.

He is indeed not an incompetent person, because he can make himself good at strategy, he is a very intelligent and wise person, he can let himself start from the whole, he can let himself grasp the overall situation, and he can give himself a place in politics, he is actually a very politically talented person. <>

That's what I know about him.

First, the ability to lead soldiers to fight is very strong, second, very brave, third, understand the preferences of soldiers, fourth, have a good relationship with soldiers, and fifth, know how to have a good relationship with the upper echelons.

The other party is actually a more capable person, but it is not so important compared to others, and he will not see the development of the situation very well, so it led to that ending and was finally beheaded.

I still know a lot, and his attainments in military affairs are relatively high, and then he also won the trust of Zhuge Liang, and he also has a particularly strong true ability, and his status in the country is also relatively high.

He is very good at forbearance, can be very calm when encountering things, can face other people's accusations, is also very strategic, very smart, can grasp the overall situation, can calm himself down at critical times, and can also make the right choice.

1. As a hero in troubled times, Liu Bei himself has a wealth of life experience, and at the end of the Eastern Han Dynasty, Liu Bei's failed experience of supporting the emperor made him realize that the ability to talk on paper is far from enough. In order for the faction to survive, it must also have a lot of practical experience.

2. Liu Bei and Ma Jian have known each other for a relatively long time, Ma Tan initially followed Liu Bei as a person engaged in Jingzhou, and then worked together in Shu and was reused. Therefore, Liu Bei can see his shortcomings from Ma Yan's work.

3. Ma Tan has a total of five brothers, his elder brother is Ma Liang, who was engaged in Jingzhou at the beginning, and there is a proverb in the township: "Ma's five constants, white eyebrows are the best." As a superior Liu Bei, it is easy to compare and see the strengths and weaknesses of the two.

Second, through communication, we can understand the gap between Ma Tan's style of doing things and Ma Liangmo Mountain.

4. Ma Tan has always participated in military battles as a strategist. There is no actual combat experience, which is fatal in front of rich and experienced military strategists in the late Three Kingdoms.

Ma Tan initially followed Liu Bei as a Jingzhou officer, served as the Mianzhu County Commander, Chengdu County Commander and Yue Net Taishou, his person is capable, Zhuge Liang attaches great importance to him, and then often discusses the situation in the world with him, and discusses it day and night, and Zhuge Liang and Ma Tan both belong to the Jingzhou faction, the relationship is very close, Ma Jian is young, Zhuge Liang will be cultivated. And once the relationship becomes closer, Zhuge Liang may not be able to see Ma Yan's shortcomings. In order to remind Zhuge Liang and his own country, Liu Bei must tell this matter.

Ma Liang is Ma Tan's elder brother, and the brothers must know each other very well, and Ma Liang must know the shortcomings of his brother Ma Tan. "Ma's five constants, the white eyebrows are the most staring at Jingliang" was not blown out by Ma Liang, but was the objective evaluation of the people at that time.

Ma Liang has many opportunities to break through to Liu Bei, Liu Bei likes Ma Liang very much, Liu Bei is the emperor, Ma Liang served as a servant, accompanied Liu Bei to fight in Eastern Wu, and it was in the Battle of Yiling that Ma Ying died. Ma Liang and Liu Bei had a close relationship, and they must have discussed Ma Yan's ability with Liu Bei. Again, since Ma Liang followed Liu Bei, he has been loyal to the cause of Shu Han, and he himself has a good relationship with Zhuge Liang, and he also understands the relationship between his younger brother and Zhuge Liang.

Ma Tan and Zhuge Liang both belonged to the Jingzhou faction, and their military ability was appreciated by Zhuge Liang. As a leader among rising stars, Ma Jian is bound to be focused on training by Zhuge Liang. Liu Bei saw Ma Yan's character flaws, and in order for Shu Han's country to be stable, he specially instructed Zhuge Liang.

Zhuge Liang wanted to get talents too much, he saw that Ma Jian seemed to see hope, so he was deceived by Ma Jian Xu, and his wise eyes were blinded. caused him to trust Ma Jian so much and let him go to the town to guard the street pavilion, and the final result was also very disappointing So to sum up, we can see that the reason why Zhuge Liang did not see Ma Jian as a mediocre person is mainly because of his lack of practical experience and desire for talents. And the reason why Liu Bei can see at a glance that Ma Jian is a mediocre talent is because he has rich combat experience and many years of experience in reading people.

Ma Tan's theory of the art of war is too idealistic. Sometimes we don't think about things in terms of reality. That's why he was defeated the first time he used his troops.

Because Ma Jian is a person, he often likes to talk about high-mindedness, and often likes to talk on paper, which makes people feel that he understands it very well, but there is no actual combat experience experience on the occasion of the real and Yinchun banquets, so Liu Bei can see that Ma Jian is not useful.

In fact, for Ma Yan, we have to divide it into two, this person must be very talented, there is no doubt about this, but I think this person has some arrogance and lacks some practical experience. And at that time, after being entrusted with a heavy task by Zhuge Liang, it was also very floating, and he couldn't listen to the advice of others at all, which led to the loss of the street pavilion, of course, Zhuge Liang also had a certain responsibility, and the employment of unknown people was Zhuge Liang's biggest mistake.

Ma Jian is a knowledgeable and talented person, and he still has the ability, but he is a bit on paper, young, does not understand politics, and cannot really think about the overall situation and do really the right thing.

Because Liu Bei thinks that Ma Jian is a person with greater talent in eloquence than in military talent, because of this, it is not worth Zhuge Liang to reuse, of course Zhuge Liang did not listen to Liu Bei's words.

Because Ma Tan's personality is very arrogant, Liu Bei is not very optimistic about him, so he told Zhuge Liang that he can't reuse Ma Tan.

At first, it was Liu Bei who said to Zhuge Liang, saying that Ma Jian was exaggerated and could not be used, because Ma Jian had no actual combat experience, and it would not work on paper after all.

Because Liu Bei saw Ma Tan's incompetence at that time, he thought that he would definitely fail in leading his troops to fight, so this is the case.

Because Liu Bei clearly saw the weakness of Ma Tan, this weakness is fatal, that is, although he has extraordinary talent, he does not easily listen to people's advice.

3. Ma Tan's irreusable conspiracy theories There are many theories about Liu Bei's will, and some believe that although Liu Bei was born as a hooligan, he has a discerning eye. And Zhuge Liang admired Ma Jian very much, Liu Bei was worried that Zhuge Liang would be killed by Ma Tan, so he specially told him to be careful. And some people think that Liu Bei is in danger and will not take these into account, and this sentence is to excuse Zhuge Liang's reuse of Ma Jian later, but it led to the defeat of the war.

Liu Bei didn't say this, this sentence was said by Zhuge Liang, Zhuge Liang thought that Ma Jian was too rigid and self-serving, and he was afraid that he would cause a big disaster if he was too appointed.

Before Liu Bei died, he said to Zhuge Liang that Ma Jian should not be of great use. Because Liu Bei saw that Ma Tan was too arrogant. Relations with soldiers are not very good. He knew that Zhuge Liang would definitely reuse Ma Yan.

Liu Bei once said before his death that Ma Jian is a good person, but he can't do things and can't be reused, but Zhuge Liang didn't believe it and felt that Ma Jian was a talent, so he made the mistake of employing people.

Although Zhuge Liang has great talent, he is still lacking in leading troops to fight, and Ma Tan, like Zhao Gao, is very good at talking on paper, and it is because of his hard work that Zhuge Liang can be fooled. As the founding monarch of Shu State, Liu Bei is naturally very accurate in looking at people, and because he is often active on the front line, Ma Jian Liu Bei knows that Ma Jian is a person who has no real talents.

Whether it is in ** "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" or in the TV series, Zhuge Liang described in the TV series is quite different from the Zhuge Liang recorded in history. First of all, Zhuge Liang is best at handling national government affairs rather than leading troops to fight, as for those who are rumored to become gods, "straw boats borrow arrows" and "empty city plans", the protagonists of these stories are not Zhuge Liang. Zhuge Liang's character is to be more cautious in doing things, so this kind of character is actually not popular on the battlefield, and the "Meridian Valley Scheme" proposed by Wei Yan was vetoed by Zhuge Liang at once.

Liu Bei and Zhuge Liang are two complementary people, Liu Bei led the generals out to fight, and Zhuge Liang stabilized the rear at home. Liu Bei, who is often active on the front line, naturally knows how to use soldiers, so he thinks that Ma Jian is a useless talent when he exits, and he can only talk about soldiers on paper. And as the founding monarch of Shu, Liu Bei is certainly not an idle person, if he does not have a pair of eyes that can see through everything, it is impossible to become a Bole who appreciates "Maxima".

Another reason why Zhuge Liang loves Ma Jian so much is that Ma Tan's hometown is from Jingzhou. And Zhuge Liang has special feelings for Jingzhou, so he has always wanted to cultivate Jingzhou's talents, and Ma Yan's mouth made Zhuge Liang very happy. Zhuge Liang saw that the "young man" in front of him was also full of expectations, but it was a pity that he was blinded by Ma Yan's "fake excellence" and finally lost the street pavilion.

Because Luo Guanzhong arranged it. This is the **plot. History did not have Liu Bei in advance, and the instigation of the horse was a waste.

Liu Bei can see at a glance that Ma Jian is a mediocre talent, but Zhuge Liang can't, mainly because Liu Bei has a lot of experience in the southern and northern wars. Zhuge Liang admires Ma Tan, so he doesn't want to believe that Ma Jian is a mediocre talent.

The reason is that Liu Bei has been fighting in the south and the north all the year round, and he has experienced too many wars, it can be said that he has experienced a hundred battles and has a lot of experience, but Zhuge Liang is mostly at the theoretical level.

Because Liu Bei had been fighting for many years at that time, he had a certain vision, and Zhuge Liang had been doing logistics work, so his vision gradually deteriorated.

First of all, because Zhuge Liang likes Ma Jian more and ignores this, and secondly, because Zhuge Liang is a strategist, and Liu Bei is a practical talent.