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Wei Yan is more powerful than Zhao Yun.
1. Zhao Yun is just a miscellaneous general in history.
Zhao Yun was originally Gongsun Zhan's subordinate, at that timeLiu Beitook refuge in Gongsun Chan and borrowed troops from Gongsun Chan, and Gongsun Chan lent a team of men and horses to Liu Bei, and also took Zhao Yun with him. At that time, Zhao Yun was just a team leader, Liu Bei has always been borrowed and not repaid, Zhao Yun became Liu Bei's subordinate, Zhao Yun is indeed a good force, quite valued by Liu Bei, but Zhao Yun in the entire Three Kingdoms, can only be regarded as average, and his life record is not much dazzling. Zhao Yun is Shu Han.
Two of the contributions made are with Liu Chan.
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The first is to save Liu Chan in the chaotic army, and the second is Liu Bei's entry into SichuanSun Shangxiangwanted to take Liu Chan back to Soochow, but was stopped by Zhao Yun. After Zhao Yun, most of them were the bodyguards of Liu Bei's family. Perhaps the only highlight moment of Zhao Yun's battle was in the Battle of Hanshui, when Zhao Yun went to support Huang Zhong.
was ambushed by Cao's army, and finally turned defeat into victory, but this battle did not affect the situation. Zhao Yun once advised Liu Bei not to count the Eastern Expedition as a credit, and Zhao Yun did not have any achievements in the Northern Expedition. Although Zhao Yun is one of the five tiger generals, he is actually just a miscellaneous general.
He has a high status in Shu Han, and he is completely old. <>
Second, Wei Yan had a higher status than Zhao Yun in the late Shu Han Dynasty.
Wei Yan was originally Liu Zhang's subordinate, and after Liu Bei and Liu Zhang had a falling out, Wei Yan chose to take refuge in Liu Bei. Wei Yan first helped Liu Bei capture Yizhou, and later conquered Hanzhong Liu Bei also took him. Compared with Zhao Yun, Liu Bei attaches more importance to Wei Yan.
Later, Liu Bei unusually promoted Wei Yan to garrison Hanzhong. Wei Yan was stationed in Hanzhong, Cao Wei.
Hardly any of them took advantage. After Liu Bei's death, Zhuge Liang.
Taking over Shushan, it stands to reason that Zhuge Liang and Wei Yan are at odds, and Zhao Yun should be reused. <>
But in essence, Zhuge Liang chose to reuse Wei Yan, because Wei Yan's talent was stronger than Zhao Yun. Wei Yan's status in the late Shu Han period was very high, almost the same as Guan Yu back then.
Almost, it can be regarded as a big man on the military side, and although Zhao Yun is also a big man, he is still second to Wei Yan. Wei Yan also performed many miraculous feats in the Northern Expedition, but unfortunately Zhuge Liang did not have his Meridian Valley scheme.
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Zhao Yun is even more powerful, which can be seen through the comparison of the two records. Wei Yan's more significant achievement is that before the Battle of Xiangyang, Wei Yan led hundreds of people to fight out of the siege under the siege of Wen Ping, but he was slightly weaker in the heads-up, and he was on par with the young general Ling Baodu; And Zhao Yun was able to face the siege of many generals of Wei - Xu Chu, Li Dian, Yu Ban and others in Changbanpo, so Zhao Yun was even better.
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Wei Yan and Zhai Yun are powerful, and if you compare the records of the two, you can understand that they are not of the same grade.
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Zhao Yun is loyal and righteous, his reputation is greater than Wei Yan, in fact, Wei Yan's military ability is powerful, Zhuge Liang does not kill Wei Yan, it is possible that he will be able to unify the Three Kingdoms! Personally, I think so.
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Zhao Yun. One Lu two Zhao three Dian Wei, it is enough to see that Zhao Yun is more powerful, Zhao Yun has fought all his life, and is known as a victorious general.
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How so? Anyway, it's ridiculous for someone to say that the miscellaneous general is a miscellaneous general, is Zhuge Liang's military division general big? So the miscellaneous number is not necessarily low, such as the miscellaneous number of General Fubo, is it big?
No one knows the official position of Shu Han, so the simultaneous interpretation is basically at the same level, so Guan Zhang, Ma Huang, and Zhao are at the same level, and it is also the origin of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms and the Five Tiger Generals, Luo Guanzhong is really no worse than some two hundred and five illiterates! As for the Yi Zhongtian Sect, they are not much different from two hundred and five!
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When it comes to Zhao Yun of the Three Kingdoms, there is no need to introduce more. Zhao Yun in the Three Kingdoms is almost a near-perfect character, very beloved, not only superior in force, caring for the people, doing things in a righteous and bright way, it is simply both civil and military. Zhuge Liang and Zhao Yun appreciate each other, and the two cooperate very tacitly.
I don't know if Zhuge Liang is not used to Wei Yan, or if there is any reason, he always says that Wei Yan has a backbone in the back of his head, and if there is no anti now, it does not mean that he will not be anti in the future. And Wei Yan's image in the eyes of the world has always been bad, and in the official history, Wei Yan has made many contributions to the Shu Kingdom, but he died a little miserably in the end. If you really compare the two, this is really a bit difficult to say, because the two are responsible for different fields, Zhao Yun is responsible for protecting Liu Bei, and Wei Yan is protecting the gate of Shu.
In **, Zhao Yun's status is higher than Wei Yan's, and in the official history, Wei Yan's status is higher than Zhao Yun's, in fact, the status of the two is not much different. When Zhao Yun had not yet defected to Liu Bei, Liu Bei had already taken a fancy to Zhao Yun and wanted Zhao Yun to work for him. Zhao Yun started by following Liu Bei, and was mainly responsible for protecting Liu Bei's safety, rather than leading troops to rush and kill on the front line, just like a bodyguard.
Liu Bei went to Jiangdong to go to the banquet to escort Zhao Yun, Changbanpo was deeply surrounded in the first battle just to be able to rescue Liu Bei's son, rescued the veteran Huang Zhong in the first battle of Hanzhong, and rescued Liu Bei in the battle of Yiling. Wei Yan was named the Taishou of Hanzhong by Liu Bei, a general in the army, leading troops to fight, and holding a certain amount of real power in his hands. But this person has a bad character, and has always been regarded by Zhuge Liang as a backbone, and before Zhuge Liang died, he specially designed for Wei Yan, so as to verify that Wei Yan was a backbone, and was killed by Ma Dai.
Although Zhao Yun is proficient in the art of war, he is actually good at fighting alone, and is not suitable for leading troops to fight, Zhao Yun is the captain of the bodyguard team, and he has almost no command power to lead troops to fight. Wei Yan holds the important military force of Shu State, is good at commanding, is suitable for large corps operations, and can be regarded as Liu Bei's henchman, and he can only have the current height with a knife and a shot with Liu Bei.
It can be seen that the fields in which the two are responsible are not the same, from a comprehensive point of view, Wei Yan is not much worse than Zhao Yun, and both of them are equally important to Shu State.
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On martial arts Zhao Yun is more powerful than Wei Yan, if Wei Yan is above Zhao Yun in terms of strategy, after the establishment of Shu State, Wei Yan was named Hanzhong Taishou, and never let Wei State take a step forward and protect the security of the Shu border. And Zhao Yun has no record of being able to get a handle except for saving Adou.
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Leading troops to fight must be Wei Yan's strength, he can be said to be experienced in a hundred battles, Zhuge Liang takes him with him almost every time he goes out, and Zhao Yun Since Changbanpo single-handedly rescued Adou, Liu Bei saw that he was good at martial arts, so he used him as a personal bodyguard, and rarely had the opportunity to lead troops to fight.
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Zhao Yun is more powerful. Wei Yan once killed Wang Shuang in seconds, drew with Ling Bao, and rescued Liu Bei after the battle with Wenpin. Zhao Yun's records include one person coming and going freely in the Battle of Changbanpo, recovering the four counties in the Battle of Jingzhou, and taking Bashu in the Battle of Yizhou.
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Note that the question is who is good at fighting, not who is good at martial arts.
Leading troops to fight must be Wei Yan's strength, and he can stand alone. Zhao Yunzai only led the troops alone once.
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Of course, the Romance of the Three Kingdoms is Zhao Yun powerful, but the Romance of the Three Kingdoms is Wei Yan's power, Wei Yan is the only general in the Three Kingdoms, and Zhao Yun is just a garrison commander...
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Zhao Yun! But Wei Yan is also very powerful! Probably a tie!
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A more common saying says: one Lu, two Zhao, three Dian Wei, four passes, five horses, six Zhang Fei, seven Xu, eight Huang and nine Jiang Wei.
According to the results of the statistics of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms, the number of named generals who have fought against Zhao Yun is the largest, at 40. And Wei Yan can only be eighth, with 12.
Zhao Yun was called a hero by the enemy five times, Cao Cao, Li Dian, Xiahou Mao, Guo Huai, and Wan Zheng. Cao Cao's attitude towards Zhao Yun, "If I get this general, why don't I worry about the world?" ”
Wei Yan's only bright spot was that he had proposed to Zhuge Liang the famous surprise attack on Chang'an's "Meridian Valley Plan".
I think Zhao Yun is far better than Wei Yan.
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Wei Yan: If the Meridian conspiracy is implemented, perhaps the Three Kingdoms will be rewritten.
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Zhao Yun is a strong person, I personally think.
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Zhao Yun was only a general of the Yi army, that is, Liu Bei's chief of guards, who led soldiers when guarding the street pavilion, and was demoted after defeat. Wei Yan is a military general, and he is very good at fighting, Wei Yan is definitely better than Zhao Yun.
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Wei Yan is a general with a strategic vision.
After Liu Bei took Sichuan, he used him as a general to defend the party. Hanzhong, the outpost position of Shu, is also the springboard of the Northern Expedition, and the only way to capture Guanzhong and Longxi. Liu Bei asked him to serve as the Taishou of Hanzhong, and he also officially took a fancy to his ability to independently complete the defense of Hanzhong.
Later, during Zhuge Liang's first Northern Expedition, Wei Yan once sacrificed his troops to the Meridian Valley to directly take the Chang'an plan, but unfortunately Zhuge Liang, who had been cautious all his life, abandoned this plan and did not use it.
Compare Zhao Yun and Wei Yan together, what are you comparing? Force? Planning?
Strategic thinking? How to use soldiers? As a general, he can only use his ability for the country.
In terms of the size of his contribution to Shu, I thought Wei Yan was above Zhao Yun. Historical records record that Wei Yan rebelled, which should be analyzed and studied, what is the original face of history?
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It must be Zhao Yun, you see that Zhao Yun's force value in the game is very high.
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Wei Wenchang Zhao Yun is 70 years old, and no matter how much he can fight, he can't beat Wei Yan, who is also a military general.
If he were 20 years younger, he would be able to handle Wei Yan in 20 minutes.
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Zhao Yunsheng within 50 rounds; 50 rounds away, Wei Yansheng!
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Zhao Yun is the general of the Five Tigers, what is Wei Yan, it is definitely Zhao Yun.
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Wei Yan will win, because Wei Yan is 70-year-old Zhao Yun after all.
It is also more historical data to prove that Wei Yan is both civil and military, and it can be seen in the Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms that it is because Wei Yan is too smart and has high martial arts.
made Zhuge Liang jealous and killed Wei Yan under many pretexts. After all, everyone is jealous, and Zhou Yu was also jealous of Zhuge Liang.
Wei Yan's martial arts have long surpassed Zhao Yun, maybe Zhao Yun Zhao Yun was just blown by Luo Guanzhong.
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Wei Yan's status is high, because Wei Yan was named the general of Zhenyuan by Liu Bei and guarded Hanzhong, while Zhao Yun was a miscellaneous general all his life and had no official position!
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Wei Yan's status was higher, because after Wei Yan surrendered to Liu Bei, Liu Bei saw that Wei Yan had real talent and learning, and often sent Wei Yan some tasks, and his position was much higher than Zhao Yun's.
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Compared with the status of Zhao Yun and Wei Yan, Wei Yan's status is higher, because Zhao Yun has not been reused in Shu, so he is not as good as Wei Yan.
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Lu Bu is known as the first military general of the Three Kingdoms It can be said that he is worthy of the name It's just that his brain is a little insufficient, and his personality is relatively weak (just for beautiful women), so he was destroyed early You can refer to the several battles between Lu Bu and Cao Cao in the early stage Although it was a strategy from Chen Gong, only a good military general like Lu Bu can fully achieve Chen Gong's intentions.
Zhao Yun's martial arts may be said to be overestimated because Zhao Yun fought with some famous generals And the outstanding battle is only Changbanpo But Zhao Yun is one of the few materials in Shu Han to be a general Because Guan Yu is arrogant and underestimating the enemy is a taboo for generals Zhang Fei is impatient and irritable It is not the material to be a general These two people can lead troops to charge, but it is not enough to be a commander The people who can really be generals in Shu Han are only Zhao Yun and Huang Zhong in the early stage Because these two people are calm, witty, and have a sense of the overall situation, and these two people have not suffered defeat after defecting to Shu Han, so it is said It's really hard to evaluate Zhao Yun's martial arts, but his ability is beyond question.
Wei Yan was the only famous general in the late Shu Han Dynasty However, he was not favored by Liu Bei and Zhuge Liang Wei Yan's martial arts were good in his time, but he was completely meaningless compared to Lu Bu and Zhao Yun, because there was nothing to prove which was higher and which was lower.
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Personal force can only increase some means of self-protection on the battlefield and improve the morale of the troops, but it is still more dangerous to take the lead, although the effect is still good, but the combat deployment and command are more important, that is to say, no matter how strong the individual martial arts are, they cannot kill a few people, and the role of the troops is also auxiliary. As for military experience, Wei Yan's troops are relatively large, Zhao Yun only brought more in his later years, there are fewer young and middle-aged people, but it is easy to command, so Zhao Yun has more experience in leading small troops, but it is not good to lead large troops, and it is easier to lead small troops, Wei Yan is only poor in experience, and it is not too difficult to command, and Lu Bu's experience is relatively rich, but it is not flexible enough. But Wei Yan and his colleagues have a bad relationship, Zhao Yun is much better than him, as for Zhao Yun's loyalty, Wei Yan is actually not bad, Wei Yan is not disloyal, he did not rebel until his death, as for Lu Bu, he has to kill his former master when he changes jobs, and it is not good for his subordinates, it is not Chen Gong and Zhang Miao to do internal response, Lu Bu is basically impossible to conquer Cao Cao's city, and he was finally driven out by Cao Cao, obviously Cao Cao just went to fight Xuzhou and came back tired, and he defended the city by himself, and his subordinates are not bad, It can only show that Lu Bu is not good at being a monarch, and his strategic vision is not even as good as Zhao Yun, so he can basically ignore Lu Bu as a monarch, too failed, and as a general, he is not as good as Wei Yan, and he is capricious and stubborn for his own use, but Wei Yan also has for his own use, which can be said to be the same.
To sum up: Force, as a general, Wei Yan is stronger than Zhao and Lu, and Wei and Lu have more character flaws than Zhao Yun, and Lu Bu is not as good as Wei and Zhao in terms of loyalty.
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Compared with other generals, Wei Yan's status is mainly too low. Guan Zhang and the others were the first to follow Liu Bei, and they were actually Liu Bei's senior personal bodyguards at first. Ma Chao is the second generation of officials in the family.
Huang and Zhao were already generals with a certain status before they voted for Liu Bei (the real Zhao Yun was relatively old in history). And Wei Yan is just a "part". Therefore, he did not get many opportunities, especially the opportunity to command troops of more than 1,000 people to fight, and most of the time, his troops had to engage in agriculture, transportation, construction and other coolies between wars.
But Wei Yan is a talented person, and the tragedy of his life is that "he often hates himself and is inexhaustible". This is what is written in the history books, which is enough to show that Wei Yan is no less than any general.
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