J 20 vs. F 22 Battle Loss Ratio Although the data is unknown, it is difficult to compare, but as lon

I remember seeing an unofficial comparison on the Internet not long ago,:

The score for f22 is 10 and the score for j20 is.

Combined with the national conditions, it is about 2:3

This,J20 just flew a test flight.,Performance and ** system are not finalized at all.,There's no data.,Compared with what?

The F22 has been installed for so many years, and the actual performance is strictly confidential, and how much do you know about the specific limit data of the ultimate speed, ceiling, radar and electronic warfare capabilities? Than what?

One is not finalized at all, there is no data, the other is highly confidential, there is no accurate data, there is no data, and there is no data, is it a random guess from air to air? What's the point?

Agree with the level 15 greyhond to refute the theory of not being afraid of death, the country's efforts to train a fighter pilot are huge, and not being afraid of death is irresponsible. Moreover, in the past, we were not afraid of death because of training, but now our training is not as good as others, and it is useless to rely on hard work.

There is no generation difference between the MiG-29 and the F-15, and the result is that it is completely exploded.

The J20 is still an empty shell at the moment, and there is no data to speak of.

To be precise, the J20 is the 4th generation experimental aircraft of the NATO system, and the 4S standard of the 4th generation fighter We still have a lot to reach.

However, it can be called a research project of the 4th generation fighter, and then it will take several years, or even 10 years of improvement, to really reach the 4th generation standard and be installed.

In the same way, F22 cannot be born to be 4S standard, 86 years of project, 91 years of finalization, 97 years of the first flight 03 years of installation.

Now it is too early for the J20 to call the 4th generation aircraft.

It's not like a 4th generation machine, it's a 4th generation.

The 4S standard for 4th generation fighters.

1- Supersonic cruise, Russia's T50 can't do it, the engine of our third-generation fighter is still being imported, supersonic cruise for a long time, this is very high requirements for the engine, so far only the American F22 F119 engine can meet this standard.

2- Stealth Our J20 experimental aircraft uses canard wings, and the radar reflective surface will be slightly larger, of course, I don't know how much effect it can have, it shouldn't be too good.

3- Over-the-horizon information-based air combat, 3rd generation aircraft can do it.

4- Supermaneuverable. This is actually a specific vector nozzle, which Russia has just successfully developed, and the United States has used it for 10 years, which are all top secret and not for sale.

Our J10 is a WS10 from the point of view of the spout, so supersonic cruise and supermaneuverability are not yet achievable.

The 4 criteria are the core concepts of the future fighter.

Of course, some people have said that we can find another way, and I don't have anything to say

These points are the most basic requirements for future fighters, you have to find another way, definitely in these basics, adding new things, not to reduce this minimum core concept, and F22 is the standard 4S standard.

What combat performance can it have just made its first flight? It is estimated that even the final performance is not comparable.

Does the J20 currently have the best performance at all? Just a test flight, a lot of core technologies don't have it at all, ** have performance data?

Data? Now all that can be found on the Internet is ** and images I don't even know the minimum length, width and height How to compare the data Looking at the conclusion of the forum analysis, the J-20 has not yet reached the NATO fourth-generation aircraft standard Whether it is the engine, stealth performance, radar, etc., it is not up to the standard Now the test flight can only be said to be a framework But it is better than nothing I expect to catch up.

If authoritative data can make you know, then the military will not build this plane.

Your question can only be that the Minister of Defense will have a meeting with you hehe.

The F22 is the most advanced fighter for the Americans themselves, not exported, because of the advanced technology. Although the F35 is already advanced for any other country, it can be equipped and exported in large quantities for the United States. Therefore, the F22 is of course much stronger than the F35, and it would be good that the J20 and T50 could be on par with the F35 when they entered service after 2020, and the purpose was achieved.

If F22 and F35 fight each other, F35 is basically the same as F18.

Their focus is different, the Raptor is mainly an air battle, fighting with enemy fighters, and seizing air supremacy is the main task. The F35 is mainly used to penetrate and attack the ground. The anti-air performance is not very good.

Our task is still homeland air defense, mainly to prevent attacks by F35, and occasionally encounter escorted F22s, which will still suffer. It's definitely enough to deal with the F35.

There are many technologies in the J20 at the moment, so there is no data to speak of, and it will be in service after 2020. The same is true for the T50. Dealing with F35, I can only say that you are too optimistic.

There is no preemptive strike at all, not to mention that the United States has the absolute superiority of the F22A and the more absolute superiority of the next generation of fighters, even if it is the F35 for the United States, its current development speed is also very fast. Not to mention anything else, at least the radar optoelectronic system of the F35 cannot be compared with us, and the F22A is not comparable to the optoelectronic system of the F35. F35 bomb and fuel load are very considerable, J20 and T50 basically do not take advantage, even in terms of maneuverability, F135 thrust has soared from 18 tons of the old imperial calendar to more than 20 tons, as long as the US Air Force needs, F135 thrust to 22 tons There is no technical difficulty, plus a vector thrust system, F35's maneuverability is enough to fight against any other country's fourth-generation aircraft.

To answer this question for you,First of all, I have to ask you to wake up,F22 or F35,The data has been made public,J20I don't know,From the appearance alone,J20The stealth effect is not as good as F22 and F35,Canard wing + tail spray + volume,The radar reflection area is definitely larger than the latter two,As for stealth coatings,There is no comparison with the current data,But the F series is the second generation of stealth coatings,The first generation of B2 and F117 have been used,J20's paint is not easy to say, There is no exact data, and the possibility of better performance than F117 and B2 cannot be ruled out, but it is difficult to say whether it can achieve the effect of F22 and F35, or the possibility is very small, after all, there is a new generation of accumulated experience.

Air combat advantages, can be roughly estimated from visual inspection of only a few aspects, maneuverability, this has a lot to do with the engine, but F35 is a single engine, limited thrust, although J20 is a double engine, but the volume looks too large, may not be better than F35 maneuverability, and F22 is definitely incomparable, engine thrust is smaller than F22, larger than F22, small horse-drawn cart, maneuverability is more conceivable.

Supersonic cruise, which may only be possible with the F22 at the moment.

High informatization advantage, maybe this is the biggest shortcoming of J20, but just maybe, because this is not visual inspection can be seen, the so-called late-mover advantage, but as far as we know, the J20 project time is not short, and it may not be able to take advantage of the first, and electronic informatization is the strength of the US military industry.

Combination, F22 is used with F35, not for separate combat, you want to fight F35 alone, people don't fight with you, send F22 first, whether you fight or run, according to the general military aircraft design service cycle, a fighter into service at the same time the next generation has begun to develop, you have five generations, people are about to have six generations, the overall generation difference is still very realistic.

I don't think anyone can give you detailed data right now.

However, one thing is certain, the J-20 must have been developed for the most advanced F22 in the United States, and the F35 is not his main imaginary enemy.

So in terms of performance, the J-20 is definitely much stronger than the F35.

The positioning of the J-20 is very similar to that of the F22, which is the "high" end in the high-low combination, so we may not be equipped with a large number of J-20s in the future.

As for the question of restraint f35... Judging from the available materials, the US military's vision for future air combat is: first use F22 as a "door kicker" to kick the door open, and then F35, F15, and F16 gods and horses swarm in, so the best way to restrain F35 is to restrain F22.

Now if all the fourth-generation aircraft are to be ranked according to performance, I think the F22 is the first, the J-20 is second, and the F35 and PAK-FA are tied for third (one is more ground-to-ground and the other is air-to-air).

To add, I personally feel that the Russian PAK-FA fighter is mainly developed for India, it is to fool people and make money, and the real Russian next-generation fighter may still be veiled.

In addition, there are relevant performance guesses and comparisons on the NetEase military homepage, so if you are interested, you can check it out!

The F-35 is so expensive that you have to wait in line until you die when you blow it up.

I've heard that there is a plan for a stealthy version of the F-16.

I guess, I can say anything.

.,Those people will be blind if they're fine.,J-20 didn't fight him with F-22 yet.,Obviously, it's inside and out.,In the future, these people will be designated as traitors and activists.,Don't worry about him.。。。

For the time being, I can only estimate, hehe, I don't know what performance and equipment of the J-20.

No, the J-20 is still on the map, how to fight, the one uploaded on the Internet is at most a shell, and the key engine radar avionics coating is not available now.

F22 is already a real formation of combat effectiveness, J20 is still in the experimental stage, will not be equipped for the time being, but there is no doubt that the purpose of the J20 itself is to compete with F22, with a strong pertinence, if this design index can not be reached, it will not be produced, otherwise there is no meaning for its existence.

The J20 is still in the experimental phase and will be installed for at least 10-15 years.

In 10 to 15 years, you're not going to be playing against F22. It is to counter NATO's 5th generation F28....estimated.

Brain-dead level problems, one has begun to cut people, and the other has not yet been bladed

Probably not.

However, it is no problem to suppress the F35 and T-50.

Obviously not, the gap is still very large.

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