Xun Yu, who is dedicated to Han, why didn t he take refuge in Liu Bei?

Updated on history 2024-03-05
18 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-06

    Before he defected to Cao Cao, Liu Bei was not famous, and Liu Bei's army may not have been established yet. In the later period, Xun Yu had already taken refuge in Cao Cao, so naturally he could not betray.

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-05

    Because the Tao is different, they do not conspire with each other, the ambition of the two is different, one person's ambition is to unify the country, and the other person's ambition is to let the people live and work in peace and contentment?

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-04

    Cao Cao also wanted to support the Han family at the beginning, so Cao Cao and Xun Yu coincided at the beginning. It's just that Cao Cao changed later.

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-03

    In fact, the main reason why Xun Yu did not take refuge in Liu Bei at that time was because Liu Bei did not have an emperor in his hands at that time. The most important goal of Kuangfu Han was to protect the emperor, but at that time the emperor was not in Liu Bei's camp, but in the hands of Cao Cao, so Xun Yu went to Cao CaoIn this way, he can protect the emperor at close range, and then help him unify the world, it can be seen from here that Xun Yu had no other choice but to take refuge in Cao Cao, and it was impossible to take refuge in Liu Bei, who did not have an emperor.

    Secondly, Liu Bei did not have the ability to unify the world at that time. We all know that Liu Bei is very indecisive and often misses the opportunity because of hesitation, but Cao Cao is different, he has always been very domineering, and he is resolute in doing things, and he thinks that Cao Cao has the ability to unify the worldWhileAt that time, Liu Bei did not have such ambition and ability, so Xun Yu had no other choice but to take refuge in Cao Cao.

    Moreover, Xun Yu was very trusted by Cao Cao at that time. After Xun Yu defected to Cao Cao, Cao Cao never suspected him, and every time he went out to fight, he would take him with him, and let him sit in the base camp, which shows that Cao Cao trusted him very much. And at that time, Cao Cao often asked Xun Yu to recommend useful talents to him, and Cao Cao's move also proved that he never thought that Xun Yu would form a party in the court, so Xun Yu would definitely not choose to join Liu Bei after gaining Cao Cao's trust.

    In the end, when he had a disagreement with Cao Cao, there was no way to leave. Because after the conflict between the two people, Cao Cao had already begun to have suspicions about Xun YuAt this time, if Xun Yu turned around and went to Liu Bei, it was estimated that he would be killed by Cao Cao before he reached Liu Bei's camp, so it is impossible for him to kill himself to seek refuge in Liu Bei.

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-02

    Because Liu Bei is not a person worthy of his assistance, he doesn't believe that Liu Bei is the queen of the royal family.

  6. Anonymous users2024-02-01

    Because he has never trusted Liu Bei very much, he doesn't want to "go along with Liu Bei".

  7. Anonymous users2024-01-31

    Because Xun Yu assisted Cao Cao, the main purpose was to revive the Han Dynasty.

  8. Anonymous users2024-01-30

    Because of different aspirations and inconsistencies, he always felt that Liu Bei was unreliable and could not help him fulfill his wishes.

  9. Anonymous users2024-01-29

    Yes, Xun Yu was loyal to the Han family, because Liu Bei was too weak at that time, and his strength was not strong enough, so he did not defect to Liu Bei.

  10. Anonymous users2024-01-28

    The first is that Liu Bei's strength was too weak at that time, and he couldn't see the future from Liu Bei, and the second is that Cao Cao did not establish a new regime, and he still respected the Han family, so it can be said that Cao Cao's regime also belonged to the Han Dynasty.

  11. Anonymous users2024-01-27

    Yes, this is because he was trusted by Cao Cao before, and then the relationship between him and Cao Cao will be better than the relationship with Liu Bei.

  12. Anonymous users2024-01-26

    Xun Yu was originally a strategist under Yuan Shao's account, when Yuan Shao was dominant, Cao Cao was just a small Yanzhou pastor, but Xun Yu had already seen through Yuan Shao's unbearable responsibility, and at that time, looking at the congenital general trend, either there were brave and unscrupulous people, or there were scheming and unbrave people, so he could compete with Yuan Shao and help the Han family, Xun Yu thought that there was only Cao Cao, so he resolutely left Yuan Shao and switched to Cao Cao, because he thought that Cao Cao was the best choice for him to support the Han family.

    When Dong Zhuo stayed in the Eastern Han Dynasty and coerced the princes of the Son of Heaven, Dong Zhuo invited Cao Cao to govern the Han family with him, but Cao Cao thought that Dong Zhuo was unwilling to cooperate with him. After Cao Cao raised troops to crusade against Dong thieves, at the beginning of Cao Cao's uprising, he held high the banner of supporting the Han Dynasty, and Cao Cao himself also wanted to support the Han family at that time, but as Cao Cao had been on the battlefield for a long time and saw the situation in the world, he already felt that the Han family was over, and it was difficult to support it again. Therefore, in his later years, his ambition to support the Han family changed, thinking about how to usurp the Han, even so, he himself did not become emperor until his death.

  13. Anonymous users2024-01-25

    The authenticity of Liu Bei's Han bloodline is not known"Romance of the Three Kingdoms" is about Liu Bei is the imperial uncle of Emperor Xian of the Han Dynasty, but the real situation is not known, although Liu Bei is also surnamed Liu, it is not very likely to have royal blood, this is likely to be a gimmick for Liu Bei to attract talents in troubled times, so as to have a good reputation in troubled times; And the incident of Emperor Han Xian recognizing his relatives with Liu Bei above the court is more like Emperor Han Xian's deliberate action, because at that time, Emperor Han Xian had been controlled by Cao Cao, and wanted to recognize the emperor's relatives and relatives to win over Liu Bei, so Liu Bei would become a person on Emperor Han Xian's side, so although Xun Yu was loyal to the Han family, he would not choose Liu Bei as the lord. <>

    Liu Bei's group is too weakLiu Bei's group was relatively weak during the Three Kingdoms period, not as strong as in "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", Liu Bei was active under the command of various princes in the early days, on the one hand, accumulating strength and talents, on the other hand, he was also waiting for opportunities, until after the Battle of Chibi, he occupied Jingzhou and had a place, and Xun Yu was active when Liu Bei's group was too weak at that time, and it was almost impossible to assist Liu Bei to revive the Han Dynasty at that time, so Xun Yu did not choose Liu Bei Group, but chose to have enough soldiers. Cao Cao, who is also very strong in personal ability, assists. <>

    Cao Cao had no intention of rebellingCao Cao, as the most powerful force in the Three Kingdoms period, was very outstanding in his personal ability, Cao Cao was relatively weak at the beginning, but successively defeated Zhang Xiu, Yuan Shao, Lü Bu and other princes to unify the north, and had a very strong ability; And although Cao Cao has always controlled the government of Emperor Han Xian, he has never done anything out of the ordinary, on the contrary, Cao Cao has always thought about how to unify the troubled times, rather than seeking power and usurping the throne, so Xun Yu chose to assist Cao Cao and wanted to end the troubled times with the help of Cao Cao's power, but in Cao Cao's later years, Xun Yu also understood that Emperor Han Xian would eventually be replaced, and Xun Yu also committed suicide in depression. <>

  14. Anonymous users2024-01-24

    Because Xun Yu was devoted to Han, the emperor of the Han Dynasty was not in Liu Bei's hands, and Liu Bei was incapable of ending the war compared to Cao Cao.

  15. Anonymous users2024-01-23

    may be because Liu Bei had not yet appeared on the historical stage at that time, and Liu Bei's background was not enough after that.

  16. Anonymous users2024-01-22

    He felt that Liu Bei was a treacherous villain, who only relied on Zhuge Liang to live, but in fact he had no talent, and he thought that the other party was very useless.

  17. Anonymous users2024-01-21

    1. Xun Yu was loyal to the Han Dynasty, why didn't he take refuge in Liu Bei?

    I often see such doubts. Here, I personally give a few answers. It's not an authority, it's just a personal opinion. I hope it helps. If there are any mistakes, please discuss and correct them together.

    First, Xun Yu defected to Cao Cao in the second year of Chuping, that is, in 191. Let's take a look at Liu Bei at that time. At that time, Liu Bei and Qingzhou Thorn Shi Tian Kai fought against Jizhou Mu Yuan Shao [Yuan Shao also coaxed Jizhou from Han Fu in this year], because of his merit, he made the county order of Pingyuan County.

    Later, he was promoted to the prime minister of the plains. The plain is a relatively small place [sandwiched between Jizhou and Yanzhou]. Tao Qian handed over Xuzhou to Liu Bei, three or four years later.

    Around this time, Beihai Xiang Kong Rong was once besieged by the Yellow Turban Army and asked Liu Bei for help. Liu Bei said in surprise: "Beihai Xiang Kong Rong actually knows that there is Liu Bei in the world!"

    It can be seen that Liu Bei at that time was not well-known, and he did not have much power and troops. At that time, if you wanted to pacify Yuan Shao and other forces, it was unreliable to rely on Liu Bei. And Cao Cao was already famous as early as the Yellow Turban Rebellion (184), and Cao Cao and Liu Bei at this time were not at the same level and grade at all.

    There is no malice towards Liu Bei's forces, and if you are offended, please forgive me. 】

    Second, in the Han Dynasty, literati and scholars generally did not change hands easily, as if it was related to Confucianism. How can I say this, changing hands is like a woman remarrying, anyway, literati generally don't like to do this, it's a bit out of modesty. Although the end of the Han Dynasty was very chaotic, and many military generals changed hands, most of the literati from famous families generally did not change hands.

    Probably it has something to do with education and traditional thinking.

    Third, in addition to one reason for the loss of moderation, another important reason is that the monarch of the Han Dynasty at that time was dedicated to the emperor!! Liu Bei is just a distant relative, can't because his surname is Liu, as if he is orthodox and official, right? [No malice, please forgive me if the words are offensive.]

    There are more people surnamed Liu, Liu Biao, Liu Zhang, and even Liu Yu, who Yuan Shao raised troops to set up, so many, do you have to take refuge one by one? Think about it, what if Liu Bei, Liu Cao, and Liu Quan are all members of the Liu family? - Obviously, Xun Yu only recognized Emperor Xian in his eyes.

    Cao Cao is the Son of Heaven, although the Son of Heaven has no real power, but it is much better than the days when he fled and was robbed and robbed. Xun Yu actually did a lot of things around Emperor Xian, such as giving lectures and chatting with Xun Yue and Kong Rong to the Son of Heaven or something. [Yue and Xun Yu and Shaofu Kong Rong talked about the emperor's palace, and talked about it every day.

    Thinking about it carefully, Xun Yu stayed in the rear many times, stayed in Xuchang, and stayed with the Son of Heaven. This is also one of the manifestations of his loyalty to the Han Dynasty.

  18. Anonymous users2024-01-20

    The guy upstairs has answered well, I'll make some additions. The first article is in favor, and the second article is in favor of it, and I think there are many people who change hands in such troubled times, but the integrity of the literati cannot be ignored either. The third one doesn't seem to be to the point, the emperor was welcomed to Xuchang after Xun Yu defected to Cao Cao, and it can't explain why Xun Yu voted for Cao in the second year of Chuping.

    I think it's more that Xun Yu took a fancy to Cao Cao's heart to revive the Han dynasty (at that time, Cao Cao was still to the Han, he once said that he just wanted to be a general of the Han Dynasty) Later, Cao Cao developed, and among all of them, he was the most hopeful person to end the troubled times, and Xun Yu must still follow. Some people will say that Xun Yu didn't discover Cao Cao's ambitions? How could you not find out, being a prime minister is very abnormal!

    Another point is that I personally think that Xun Yu believes in not the emperor but the country of the Han family, to put it mildly, the Han Xiandi is really dead, Cao Cao and Xun Yu can set up one. The problem has always been that Cao Cao wanted to call Wei Gong later, and Xun Yu really couldn't bear it, that was his bottom line. The Duke of Wei means that the next step is the King of Wei, and after that, the Emperor.

    At that time, the Han dynasty was really over, and Xun Yu would resolutely disagree with Cao Cao calling him the Duke of Wei.

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