Why, Liu Bei and Wu Zhuge Liang didn t go, and if he went, would he be able to defeat Lu Xun of East

Updated on history 2024-03-20
28 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-07

    will defeat Soochow Lu Xun. At that time, Liu Bei thought that he was very strategic and could win. Zhuge Liang was in charge of production and supplies at that time.

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-06

    If he went, he would definitely be able to defeat the other party, because Zhuge Liang's ability at that time was stronger than him.

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-05

    Because Zhuge Liang needed to stay behind to manage the country, Zhuge Liang did not go. If Zhuge Liang goes, he will definitely defeat Lu Xun.

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-04

    Lu Xun's victory is more likely, but Zhuge Liang will not want Liu Bei to lose so badly.

    First: Zhuge Liang is more cautious than Liu Bei, and the possibility of a fiasco is relatively small. Sun and Liu were originally an anti-Cao alliance, but in 219 AD, Sun Quan sent Lü Meng to capture Jingzhou and kill Guan Yu, which directly made the Sun and Liu families form a hatred.

    In 221 AD, after Liu Bei became emperor in the Yizhou region, in the name of avenging Guan Yu, he personally led a large army to attack Eastern Wu, trying to recapture Jingzhou and more land and population, the Wushu War broke out, and Sun Quan sent Lu Xun to meet Liu Bei.

    Liu Bei was angry and raised troops to crusade against Eastern Wu, and he was strong and aggressive, which in itself was a taboo for soldiers. In the specific battle with the Wu army, Liu Bei put the army in the hundreds of miles of mountain roads, it was difficult, when the Wu army held on without fighting, and took the method of camping everywhere into the deep mountains and dense forests, giving Lu Xun the opportunity to attack. Lu Xun is indeed powerful, but Liu Bei's mistakes in strategy and tactics are the main reason.

    Zhuge Liang is known for his prudence in the use of troops, if Zhuge Liang leads his troops to attack Eastern Wu, even if it is difficult to win, it is difficult to defeat like Liu Bei, which can be seen from Zhuge Liang's performance during many northern expeditions later.

    Second: Lu Xun's insistence on the strategy of not fighting Zhuge Liang is also difficult to help, and Lu Xun's victory is more likely. If Zhuge Liang led his troops to attack Eastern Wu, would he be able to win?

    No, because Lu Xun can't stick to the strategy, it is also a headache for Zhuge Liang, if he can't destroy the enemy in the field, but attack the camp one by one, it will take too long and the loss will be too great, and it will not be cost-effective at all.

    In fact, Lu Xun's strategy of not being able to hold out is very similar to the strategy adopted by Sima Yi during Zhuge Liang's Northern Expedition.

    Therefore, if the confrontation continues, Zhuge Liang is very likely to retreat, after all, in a war of attrition, the logistics supply of Shu Han is far greater than that of the Wu army.

    What do you think about this? Who do you think is more powerful, Zhuge Liang or Lu Xun?

    Zizhi Tongjian", "General History of China", "Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms".

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-03

    can win, but it is also a miserable victory, after all, Liu Bei's army is not very powerful, and in the end, Cao Cao is happy. The most relied on by Dongwu is the Yangtze River natural danger, as long as the naval army is enough to fight Dongwu, after all, Sun Quan has been on the defensive after Sun Ce's death, the key is that Wei and Shu contain each other, Dongwu is the point to break the balance, and they dare not move him...

  6. Anonymous users2024-02-02

    Lu Xun is far from Zhuge Liang's opponent. Zhuge Liang's military and political strength can enter the top three of the Three Kingdoms. Lu Xun is thirty or fifty. You can't look up to him because he won Liu Bei, and his performance in the Northern Expedition is not worse than Zhuge Liang.

  7. Anonymous users2024-02-01

    Speaking with facts and evidence, Kong Ming's strong point is to govern the country, to govern the army and to engage in army building, and many people think that Kong Ming is not a military strategist, and that he can govern the army and will engage in army building, and we cannot say that he is not a military strategist, but only a military strategist who can govern the army, will engage in army building, and will definitely use troops. History gave Kong Ming time, 11 years, history also gave her power, monopolized power, but everyone saw the result, 5 Northern Expeditions, all in vain, did not lay an inch of land for Shu Han (Nanzhong was originally Shu Han, although the three counties were all opposed during the first Northern Expedition, but Kong Ming returned to Wei after retiring from the army), it is obvious that Kong Ming has no level of use of troops. He is not a soldier-type military strategist.

    In fact, Kong Ming can learn from Liu Bang, Liu Bang is very self-aware, he knows that he is not good at using soldiers, so he asked Han Xin to lead the army to conquer. So if Kong Ming leads the troops to attack Wu, if he wins, it is a fluke, and it is normal to lose. Kong Ming had to thank Lao Luo, held Kong Ming very high, mythologized Kong Ming, Kong Ming wrote a teacher's table, some people actually said that he was a writer, that really laughed off his big teeth, the teacher's table was to write a letter from Liu Chan, in that era, this kind of letter such a statement could be written by a scholar, and only the teacher table left in the world.

    In fact, Cao Cao is remarkable, he is an outstanding politician, military strategist, writer, calligrapher, poet, among the ancient Chinese emperors can be a politician, military strategist, writer, calligrapher, poet of all this person. Other emperors, such as Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty, were not military strategists. Qin Shi Huang had no literary achievements, Tang Taizong obviously did not have Cao Cao in literature, Song Taizu did not have literary achievements, and other emperors also lacked a certain aspect.

  8. Anonymous users2024-01-31

    I think that with Zhuge Liang's talent, he can definitely capture Dongwu, why step by step, steady and steady, is Zhuge Liang's strength, and he will not rashly move the army into the mountains and forests to camp along the stream with water, and he knows that now into Futian, the forest is flammable, the army needs to rest and retreat into Ziguicheng to capture the Yiling Mountains in one fell swoop after the autumn, and then it is a horse Pingchuan, but if the war is stalemate, Cao Pi may take advantage of the situation, Zhuge Liang wins, Cao Pi goes south to capture Jingzhou, Lu Xun wins Cao Pi west to attack Hanzhong, No matter how Wu Shu wins or loses, the winner is definitely Cao Pi, so Zhuge Liang will not attack Jingzhou!

  9. Anonymous users2024-01-30

    No, because the national strength of Shu Han was too weak at that time, don't be deceived by Romance, Liu Bei only beat Wu a little more than 40,000 in the official history, and Lu Boyan was 50,000, if Liu Bei really had 700,000, how could Liu Bei have an army of 700,000 in Yizhou!

  10. Anonymous users2024-01-29

    The biggest possibility is that when Shu Han is victorious and Sun Quan sends envoys to sue for peace, he will negotiate with Sun Wu to restore the original Jingzhou part of Shu Han and give up. This is the subordination of war to politics, and the maximization of interests is achieved through war and conspiracy. However, if Liu Bei didn't listen to Zhuge Liang's advice, maybe it would still be inevitable that the end of Yiling's defeat would still be inevitable.

    What can be <> certain is that in the era of the late Han Dynasty, Lu Bu's force value was unique, standing at the peak and looking down on the world. dominates the military rankings of the Three Kingdoms, and other fierce generals have a realm gap with him. The second is Zhao Yun.

    Zhao Yun is also one of the five tiger generals, and he has not tasted defeat in the romance. In the Battle of Qishan, Zhao Yun fought Xu Chu, Li Dian, and Yu Ban alone, blocking them so that Liu Bei could escape safely. Therefore, Zhao Yun's martial arts are also above Xu Chu, and he can fight Lily with Lu Bu.

    For the Shu Han regime, there were two important defense points and sortie points, one was Jingzhou and the other was Hanzhong. Jingzhou mainly guarded against Sun Wu, while Hanzhong mainly guarded against Cao Wei. Since it is the attack on Wu, it is inevitable that the rear of the whole country will be empty, and it is necessary to guard against the sneak attack of Cao Wei, or the Wu-Wei alliance will advance from east to west, so Hanzhong is the top priority, although it is not directly related to the war of Wu, but it is related to the stability of the entire Shu Han regime.

    Zhuge Liang was listed as one of the ten philosophers of Wumiao in the Tang and Song dynasties, and his status was on a par with Han Xin and Bai Qi. Zhuge Liang's level of use of troops can be affirmed by later generations, mainly because Zhuge Liang uses troops in an orderly manner and rarely makes major mistakes. Li Jing and Li Shimin of the Tang Dynasty admired Zhuge Liang's method of using troops, and they believed that the literati who criticized Zhuge Liang for not knowing how to use troops did not understand military affairs and did not know Zhuge Liang's cleverness.

    Liu Bei has been blinded by hatred, lost his mind, and is eager to win, he went east to the Three Gorges to reach Yaoting, and attacked all the way. If Zhuge Liang is here, he may be more calm and calm, he will not be in a hurry, and he will do a good job of strategy and tactics step by step.

    I don't believe that Liu Bei is just for personal vendetta, but he concealed the reasons that could inspire the whole people, exaggerated the reasons for each of them, and turned a national war into a farce of fame and reputation. And only Zhao Yun stopped Liu Bei, Zhuge Liang was dumb when he should have spoken. In this failure, Zhuge Liang was at least responsible for dereliction of duty.

  11. Anonymous users2024-01-28

    I can win. Because Zhuge Liang is a very scheming person, he will definitely find out all the bottom lines of the other party before making a plan, and he will not act recklessly.

  12. Anonymous users2024-01-27

    No, Shu is the weakest military among the three kingdoms, and although there are famous generals, middle-level commanders are faulty.

  13. Anonymous users2024-01-26

    The chances are greater, after all, Zhuge Liang can look at the overall situation and be a little more sure of the situation.

  14. Anonymous users2024-01-25

    No, because the overall strength of Eastern Wu is stronger than that of Shu Han, and Shu Han cannot defeat Eastern Wu.

  15. Anonymous users2024-01-24

    Yes, because Zhuge Liang is resourceful, and no one is his opponent in Eastern Wu at all, so he will definitely succeed in defeating Wu.

  16. Anonymous users2024-01-23

    Liu Bei attacked Eastern Wu and confronted Lu Xun, the governor of Eastern Wu, in Yaoting, and could not respond to many challenges, and Lu Xun also saw through the plan to lure the enemy. Due to the hot weather, Liu Bei moved the army into the woods to escape the heat, and set up a company camp for 700 miles, not wanting to commit a taboo.

    Lu Xun first sent Chun Yudan to test it, and then mobilized all kinds of armies in Eastern Wu to attack and burn Liu Bei's 700-mile company camp with fire, such as the defeat of the Shenshu army, countless casualties of soldiers and horses, Feng Xi and Zhang Nan and other Shu generals died one after another.

    Under the protection of Zhang Bao Guanxing, Liu Bei fled into Ma'anshan, Lu Xun led the army to chase him, but fortunately Zhao Yun arrived and rescued Liu Bei and fled to the White Emperor City.

    Lu Xun continued to chase closely, passing through Yubeipu, and was trapped by the gossip array set up there by Zhuge Liang in advance, but fortunately thanks to the guidance of Zhuge Liang's father-in-law Huang Chengyan, the Eastern Wu army was able to get out of trouble. Lu Xun felt that he was inferior to Zhuge Liang, and led the army to withdraw to Eastern Wu.

  17. Anonymous users2024-01-22

    According to historical facts, this is normal, because at that time, Liu Bei's mastermind was Fa Zheng, and Zhuge Liang was mainly responsible for logistics support; According to what the romance says, because Zhuge didn't agree to rashly send troops to attack Wu, and Liu Bei insisted on going, so it was the awkward mentality of "I can do it without you".

  18. Anonymous users2024-01-21

    **At that time, it was said that Zhuge Liang stayed in Chengdu, and then Liu Bei took Feng Xiao to conquer Wu State, This is for the stability of the rear, which can be seen from leaving Guan Yu behind.

  19. Anonymous users2024-01-20

    Xishu has just been pacified, and there are still many opposition forces and Liu Zhang's diehard forces in the country, so a strong person must suppress it.

  20. Anonymous users2024-01-19

    In fact, Zhuge Liang did not agree with Liu Bei's attack on Wu. Therefore, Liu Bei, who was furious, decided to keep him. This also means to let Zhuge Liang see his own ability. It can be seen that Liu Bei was already a little complacent at that time.

  21. Anonymous users2024-01-18

    Zhuge Liang is the prime minister, and at the beginning of the founding of the People's Republic of China, he was very busy. Besides, in fact, Zhuge Liang is not as famous as Liu Bei in military affairs, and when he came out of Qishan, Wei didn't know what Zhuge Liang was doing.

  22. Anonymous users2024-01-17

    If Zhuge Liang went with him, then Yizhou would have no one to guard.

  23. Anonymous users2024-01-16

    Does he want Cao Wei to take him to the nest? Since ancient times, the emperor has personally conquered, and the prime minister has stabilized.

  24. Anonymous users2024-01-15

    The capital of that country was unguarded, and Cao Wei took the opportunity to go south.

  25. Anonymous users2024-01-14

    Why did Liu Bei lose to Lu Xun, but he was burned by Lu Xun.

  26. Anonymous users2024-01-13

    No. Because Zhuge Liang is resourceful, Lu Xun has no chance at all, so if it is Zhuge Liang who crusades against Eastern Wu, Lu Xun has no chance to win.

  27. Anonymous users2024-01-12

    There is a chance, because Zhuge Liang in history is not so powerful, and many of them are plots added to **, so Lu Xun still has a chance.

  28. Anonymous users2024-01-11

    It will be much more difficult for Lu Xun to win, and Zhuge Liang will not be in a hurry like Liu Bei to command indiscriminately and give Lu Xun the opportunity to burn down the company camp.

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