The situation of the Southern Ming Dynasty and the Eastern Jin Dynasty and the Southern Song Dynasty

There are two main reasons for this, one is that there were too many Jin generals after the surrender of the Ming Dynasty at that time. These generals became the vanguard of the Manchu Qing to annex the Southern Ming in the south. The second is that the struggle between the Nanming regime and the infighting has never been stopped.

The Eastern Jin Dynasty was originally the Western Jin Dynasty after the Eight Kings Rebellion, the ethnic minority forces took the opportunity to invade, and some scholars and ordinary people of the Western Jin Dynasty crossed the Yangtze River and established a regime in the south. The main reason why he was able to survive for a hundred years was that the ethnic minorities in the north at that time were not a unified regime, and there were also struggles between various ethnic minority tribes.

The establishment of the Southern Song Dynasty was after the Jin State destroyed the Northern Song Dynasty, some local officials in the south, and scholars supported the regime established in the south by Zhao Gou, the ninth prince, and some patriotic generals in the south, Yue Fei and Han Shizhong bravely resisted, and the Southern Song Dynasty stabilized the situation. The Jin State was also greatly damaged by this, and since then it has no strength to continue the southern invasion.

The situation in Nanming is different. The fall of the Ming Dynasty itself was related to internal struggles, which was completely different from the Northern Song Dynasty and the Western Jin Dynasty. The protracted internal struggle greatly depleted the national strength of the Ming Dynasty, and many outstanding generals were killed.

Later, the peasant rebels occupied Beijing, and Chongzhen hanged himself. The Ming Dynasty fell, and many of the original generals of the Ming Dynasty surrendered to the Qing Dynasty, including Wu Sangui, Hong Chengchou, Geng Jingzhong, and others, who became the vanguard and main force of the Qing army's southward attack on the Southern Ming Dynasty. It can be said that the Southern Ming Dynasty was not destroyed by the Manchu Qing Dynasty, but by the Ming Dynasty's generals.

At that time, in the south, scholars and magistrates, and large landowners successively supported many small courts, and as soon as these small courts were established, the court immediately began to compete for power and profit. And the purpose of those scholars to support the small court was not to revive the Ming Dynasty, but to become the founding father of the country and become an official and a knight. For this reason, there have also been cases where two small courts stood side by side.

The Manchu Qing Dynasty reaped the benefits of the fierce infighting in these Ming dynasties, and finally occupied the Han people.

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The center of gravity of the Song Dynasty was originally in the south, the main rich was Suhu, and there was a powerful naval army in the military force, which had not recovered Yanyun in the north, and the capital was also set in Kaifeng. After losing the north, it moved its capital to Jinling, and the loss of national strength was not large, under the strong navy, the Yangtze River was a natural danger, and the Liao State in the north was also facing, Jin, and the rise of Mongolia, could not attack the Song Dynasty with all its might.

The Ming Dynasty is different, since the Hongwu Emperor moved the capital to Beijing, the ancestors left behind""The Son of Heaven guards the country", and mainly to prevent the Mongols, most of the world's army, the most elite troops are concentrated in the north, the economic center of gravity, has been painstakingly operated in the north, after the north is lost, just like the current China lost Shanghai, Guangzhou, retreated to Gansu, Qinghai, there is definitely no hope, all kinds of industry, commercial facilities are gone.

Because of the disparity in their own abilities, the abilities of the opponents they face are also different, and it is the small differences in all aspects that form the final big difference.

He also wanted to, but the Qing Dynasty wouldn't let him. At that time, the Ming Dynasty was worried about internal and external troubles, there were rebellions in Li Zicheng and other places, and there were Qing troops outside, how could it hold on? The Qing Dynasty army (then called Houjin) was simply a division of tigers and wolves, thousands of miles a day, irresistible, how could he be in a corner of peace?

Just like ***, after the occupation of Nanjing, a telegram was issued, and there was a poem that was not there: It is advisable to chase the poor bravely, and not to become a famous overlord. At that time, the Qing army probably also knew this allusion, hehe.

The times have changed, and the general trend has gone. The hearts of the people were lost, and the rulers of the Southern Ming Dynasty were even more corrupt than the Southern Song Dynasty. There has been a great deal of development in the productive forces and economy of the North. Completely surpassing the south economically and militarily, the ruling class in the early Qing Dynasty made great efforts to rule the world.

There is a poem: "Thousands of miles of cars and books are mixed, how can there be other frontiers in the south of the Yangtze River?" On the West Lake, the first peak of Wushan Mountain. ”

After the fall of the Northern Song Dynasty, the Zhao royal family was almost slaughtered by the Jin State, and the King of Kang, Zhao Go, got rid of the pursuit of the Jin State and established the Southern Song Dynasty court in Shangqiu, Henan. So at this time, Zhao Go's regime was very stable. For Nanming, the limitations are a bit small, it does not have a unified group, which is also where Nanming fails.

Because Nanming was already in a precarious state at that time, and the external invasion at that time was also very terrifying, the Central Plains people couldn't stop it at all.

The Eastern Jin Dynasty had strategic depth and was easy to defend, the Southern Song Dynasty had a developed economy and the people were united, and in the last years of the Ming Dynasty, the national strength was weak and the system was not good at all, and the Qing Dynasty was particularly strong, so it could not bear it.

The main reason is that the power of the Manchu Qing Dynasty was strong, and it was difficult for the Southern Ming to resist, and the weak foundation and underdeveloped economy of Guangdong and Fujian were also an important reason.

They didn't, the unified regime, the power was consumed internally, whether it was King Fu, King Tang, King Gui, Ming Zheng, and the Daxi Righteous Army that would join forces in the future, they were not busy fighting for power internally, and they were more united than the Qing Army.

At that time, the Southern Song Dynasty was faced with the Jin State, which was a unified group on the surface and internal friction. At that time, the Southern Song Dynasty faced two minority regimes, the Jin State and the Mengyuan Dynasty, which posed a great threat to the Southern Song Dynasty because they existed for a very long time and ruled over a relatively large area. Even in the face of such a situation, the Southern Song Dynasty did not fall prematurely, and the main reason was that there were internal contradictions in the Jin State at that time.

At that time, the Jin Kingdom was divided into two factions, the main battle faction and the main peace faction, and the two factions fought each other.

The Southern Ming Dynasty was facing a united and ambitious Qing Dynasty. At that time, because the Southern Ming Dynasty was facing internal unity and no contradictions, the Qing Dynasty was not contradictory. You must know that the military strength of the Qing Dynasty was very strong, and the rulers of the Qing Dynasty at that time also had very outstanding military leadership ability.

Under the leadership of the Qing rulers, the military strength of the Qing Dynasty soldiers was brought into full play. It was for this reason that Nanming perished prematurely.

Yes, on the one hand, it is because the enemy is too cunning, which makes Nan Ming's unable to survive, and on the other hand, because Nan Ming's own ability is slightly worse, so it is like this.

Nan Mingming's main reason is that his economic strength is too weak, his economy is not developed, and his army is relatively weak, so he did not hold out for a hundred years like other dynasties.

It's not that the enemy is too cunning, but that he is too incompetent, and the government of Nanming was actually a mess in the later period, and it was all for his own interests to make the government scattered, so in the end Nanming perished.

The enemy is not cunning, but the main reason is still in himself, he is not strong enough, and he does not know how to sympathize with the people's feelings and govern the country, which is the real reason.

Because there was too much internal friction in the Southern Ming Dynasty at that time, there was an endless debate about whether to establish Emperor Hongguang at that time, and then there were soldiers and horses from the four towns of Jiangbei, and finally Shi Kefa was exiled to Yangzhou, so in the face of such a fierce internal struggle, he was not able to hold on for a hundred years.

Personally, I think that the Southern Ming Dynasty faced a Qing Dynasty that had no worries, was internally monolithic, and was full of ambition and political wisdom. The Eastern Jin Dynasty faced the Wuhu and Sixteen Kingdoms, although barbaric and combative, but lacked unified leadership, nor did it form a unified force, it was a plate of scattered sand, and naturally it was unable to conquer the Eastern Jin Dynasty, which still had strength. The Southern Song Dynasty faced the Jin State, although it had been unified, but it was also suffering from internal and external troubles, and the sharp energy in the early days of the dynasty was exhausted and could no longer go south.

This may also explain why the Southern Ming Dynasty only lasted for 18 years, while the Eastern Jin Dynasty and the Southern Song Dynasty both supported it for more than a hundred years.

Yes, and at the same time the enemy is too strong. The Southern Song Dynasty was able to hold out for a hundred years because there was still a Liao State in the north, while the Southern Ming Dynasty was weaker and had no protective umbrella.

On the one hand, it is indeed that the enemy is too cunning, and on the other hand, because the national strength of the Southern Ming Dynasty at that time was no longer enough to support the operation of the dynasty.

Because Nanming did not have its own fixed transactions, it could not produce and develop, so it did not exist for a long time.

The main reason is that the Southern Ming Dynasty did not have a fixed transaction, so it could not be produced and could not be developed, so it did not exist for a long time like the Eastern Jin Dynasty and the Southern Song Dynasty.

This is because the rulers of the Southern Song Dynasty were very corrupt and incompetent, and they were particularly cowardly, and in the face of powerful foreign tribes, they betrayed and surrendered the interests of their own country, and Huiliang eventually led to the demise of the Southern Song Dynasty.

The Qing Dynasty had already formed a political organization before entering the customs, and obtained the jade seal of the country since Emperor Yuan Shun, which was enough to demagogue people in terms of political organization and prestige. At the beginning of entering the customs, the Qing army was under the banner of revenge for Emperor Chongzhen, which was naturally unfavorable to the rebellious Li Zicheng peasant army, so soon the generals and heroes of the Ming Dynasty in the north returned to the Qing Dynasty. In the battle sequence of the Qing army, there were Geng Zhongming, Kong Youde, and Shang Kexi, who defected to the nucleus earlier, and Wu Yanzao, who surrendered later, and the Sangui people, which enabled the Qing rulers to fully integrate and use these former Ming forces for their own use.

On the other hand, on the Nanming side, there is constant infighting. Whether it is the disagreement and mutual suspicion of the four towns in the south of the Yangtze River, or Zheng Zhilong's unauthorized power, or Sun Kewang's stubbornness and self-use. Constant internal friction and distrust exacerbated the centrifugation of the internal political forces of the Southern Ming Dynasty, giving the Qing army a lot of opportunities to take advantage of.

Hangzhou, the capital of the Southern Song Dynasty, belonged to the core area of China, and a large number of officers and soldiers went south, as well as a number of generals from the northwest, Han Shizhong, Liu Guangshi and his sons, Zhang Jun, Wu Jie, etc., and received the support of the people in a large area of the south. Nanming was basically the remnants left by the Northwest Peasant Army. Except for the Southwest, there is no support from other regions in the South.

Alone. The Southern Song Dynasty and the Southern Ming Dynasty were both established by a group of Northwest generals, and with the aging of these Northwest generals, the Southern Song Dynasty and the Southern Ming Dynasty will also end! Southern Song Dynasty: Zhang Jun, Liu Guangshi and his son, Wu Jie's family, Liu Qi, Han Shizhong and others supported the Southern Song Dynasty.

Nanming: Gao Yigong, Li Jin, Tian Hualong, Dang Shousu, Liu Xiyao, Liu Fangliang, Xin Sizhong, Liu Rukui, Li Laiheng, Liu Tichun, Yuan Zongdi, Niu Wancai and other 300,000 people crossed the river to support Nanming.

Because Nanming did not have a fixed territory, it could not continue production and development, and it could not provide long-term supplies to the army, so it could not gain a foothold.

Because the rulers at that time were different, then it would inevitably make the dynasty have a great change, and it would also make the dynasty have a different direction.