If the battle of Yiling is not fought, can Liu Bei s 750,000 army take Guanzhong and Chang an in one

First of all, we must understand a concept: Liu Bei has an army of 750,000This is clearly a romance.

How big is Shu Han and how big is the population?Not to mention Shu Han, even Cao Wei may not be able to afford so many soldiers, this is at the end of the Three Kingdoms, the productivity was greatly damaged, and it became a problem for the common people to eat, how to raise soldiers?In order to solve this problem, Cao Cao tun troops to farm.

If Shu Han can come up with an army of 750,000, he will definitely sweep the world. Because it proves that the common people of Shu Han are rich, and there is so much silver to feed the soldiers, only this one, it is not a problem for the Three Kingdoms to return to Shu!

But the problem is, it's fake after all. Take the battle of Yiling in history as an example, how many troops did Shu Han dispatch?Some historians have calculated that there are roughly 40,000 to 50,000, and at most 60,000!And also include borrowed brute soldiers.

To explain this question, see below this question. No matter how many troops Liu Bei has, if he wants to rely on these horses in the Battle of Yiling to take Guanzhong and Chang'an, under normal circumstances, it is to rule out that Cao Wei made a huge mistake under the starry sky, and it is difficult to complete. Because this is a game of the Three Kingdoms, it is even more powerful to win.

These two items alone restricted Liu Bei to death. <>

Three Kingdoms Game: Using Guan Yu's battle of Xiangfan as an example, Guan Yu played so beautifully at the beginning, why did he still lose?Sun Quan's stab in the back is the most critical reason.

So why is Sun Quan so "two"?It is because Sun Quan does not want to introduce the situation of the Three Kingdoms into the pattern of "two heroes competing for hegemony". If Guan Yu gets Cao Wei in Jingzhou and takes Chang'an by the way, then who is the strongest?

Naturally, it was Liu Bei. But in this way, if you are Sun Quan, are you happy?

Sun Quan is not afraid of Cao Wei, because Cao Wei's navy is too vegetable. But Guan Yu is a good at training the water army, such as flooding the Seventh Army, this is all a water war. Is Sun Quan afraid?Once Cao Wei is defeated, there will only be one way for Eastern Wu, surrender!<>

Therefore, it can be seen from the battle of Xiangfan that Liu Bei did not dare to use all his strength to beat Cao Wei. Moreover, the situation of the three countries is subject to change at any time with each other's strength. For example, when Liu Bei's death and Shu Han's strength fell to a low point, why did Sun Quan unite with Liu Bei again?

If you don't unite with Shu Han, you can't resist Cao Wei. This brings us to the second question.

Strength wins: Cao Wei started the earliest and unified the north. Don't underestimate the word "north".

During the Three Kingdoms period, the north was the most economically developed region, the most populous region, and the region with the strongest war potential. With these three firsts, it is actually equivalent to announcing that Cao Wei is invincible.

This is also why, at the end of the Three Kingdoms, there were so many talents on Cao Wei's side, and there were so few Shu Han, you can't compare! The population base is decided! Therefore, once Liu Bei launches an attack on Cao Wei, he may be able to take advantage initially, but as the war enters the stalemate stage, Liu Bei will encounter the same problem as Zhuge Liang's Northern Expedition, what to eat?

If this problem is not solved, everything is a dream! After all, Shu Han is the weakest, this is an indisputable fact. Therefore, if Cao Wei doesn't fight with you, it will be more than consumption, and Liu Bei will definitely die.

That's why he said that as long as Cao Wei didn't make big mistakes, Liu Bei still had no fun.

No, because if you want to fight Guanzhong and Chang'an, you must first attack Yiling, otherwise the supply of 750,000 troops and the back road will not be guaranteed.

Yes, if the battle of Yiling is not fought, the military strength of the Shu army will not be affected, and the Shu State will still be able to preserve its strength, plus Zhuge Liang's strategic planning can take Guanzhong and Chang'an.

Yes, this number is very large, and relatively speaking, there are many powerful generals in Shu, I think it is possible to take Guanzhong and Chang'an in one fell swoop.

No. Cao Cao's army was higher in quantity and quality than Liu Bei's, and Liu Bei would be difficult to take against Cao Cao, and would be attacked by Eastern Wu.

If the battle of Yiling was not fought, Liu Bei's 750,000 army would not be able to take Guanzhong and Chang'an in one fell swoop, because the strength of Shu and Cao Wei's strength were very different, and Cao Cao's soldiers were strong and strong.

I don't think it's possible, because at that time, he didn't have the right time, place, and people, and he didn't have a military strategist around him, so he didn't understand the strength of the other party.

I think if it weren't for the Battle of Yiling, it would be difficult for Liu Bei's 750,000 army to win Guanzhong and Chang'an in one fell swoop.

I think that even if he doesn't fight the Battle of Yiling, the possibility of taking Guanzhong and Chang'an is very small, and the difference between the national strength of Shu Han and the Wei Dynasty is very large, and they are not dominant in all aspects, so there is no great certainty.

LiuThe Battle of Beiyiling did not have an army of 700,000. During the Three Kingdoms period, the total population of the three kingdoms combined did not reach 7 million, that is, it was clear that the population of Shu Han may only be about 2 million to 3 million troops, and it is impossible to gather 700,000 troops. And when Shu fell, there were only 900,000 people in Shu at that time.

When Liu Bei was in his heyday, the army was about 150,000 troops, probably Guan Yu led about 30,000 troops in Jingzhou, about 60,000 in Yizhou, and about 60,000 in other places.

What was the difference between the two countries' forces in the Battle of Yiling?

At that time, the total strength of Shu did not exceed 100,000, and these 100,000 could not be directly sent to fight against Eastern Wu, and a part of it had to be left to prevent Cao Wei's sneak attack.

Cao Wei is the largest of the three countries, and the army is also the strongest, so even if Shu is the most conservative, it needs to keep about 40,000. In this way, the army that can really be taken away by Liu Bei is only about 60,000.

From Shu to Wu, the battle line is very long, especially at the junction of the three kingdoms, and it is necessary to allocate a part of the troops to guard it. In addition to miscellaneous consumption, there are only forty or fifty thousand troops left that can go to the battlefield.

If there is no defeat of Yiling, there is no possibility for the Shu army to take Guanzhong and Chang in one fell swoop.

In fact, the national strength of Shu Han and Cao Wei are very different. Liu Bei's army of 750,000 is actually not that much. Shu Han has lost the rich Jingzhou, and compared with Cao Cao, who occupies the rich land in the north, the gap between national strength and manpower and material resources is huge.

Two-thirds of the world's Kyushu was in the hands of Cao Cao, who unified the north, had strong soldiers and horses, and had a powerful war machine. On the other hand, Shu Han only occupied the barren Yizhou. The difference in strength between the two sides is too great.

Shu Han had already exhausted its war potential in the Battle of Hanzhong, which lasted for more than two years. Since Liu Bei entered Yizhou, Yizhou has been at war, the battle of Hanzhong, although Liu Bei won the victory, but only a tragic victory, the war has been carried out to the point of "men should fight, women should be lucky". Coupled with Guan Yu's reckless attack on Wei and the destruction of the rich Jingzhou, Liu Bei no longer had the strength to wage war again.

Eastern Wu once again tore up the covenant, attacked Liu Bei's rear, and attacked Shu Han with Cao Wei. There are no eternal friends, and there are no eternal enemies. If Liu Bei and Cao Wei fought against each other in Guanzhong to a critical moment, it is also very possible for Eastern Wu to tear up the alliance and "cross the river in white clothes and attack Jingzhou" again.

If Soochow can break the covenant once, he may do it again. Therefore, Liu Bei is clever, not blindly cutting down Wu, but in order to solve the worries of the future, first easy and then difficult, first east and then north, slowly carried out, and then unified China, imitated the story of Emperor Guangwu Liu Xiu, and rebuilt the Han dynasty.

Even if Liu Bei had not launched the Battle of Yiling and led an army of 750,000 to attack Wei, it would have been difficult for him to occupy Guanzhong or Chang'an.

Liu Bei has 750,000, and there are really 750,000 if the whole of China is settled, and there are 40,000.

On the other hand, Shu Han only occupied the barren Yizhou. The difference in strength between the two sides is too great.

It is definitely impossible, and there is no possibility for the Shu army to take Guanzhong and Chang in one fell swoop.

Liu Bei did not have an army of 750,000 at all, and there were not many people in Shu Han.

Without the defeat of Yiling, there was no possibility for the Shu army to take Guanzhong and Chang in one fell swoop.

In fact, the national strength of Shu Han and Cao Wei are very different. Liu Bei's army of 750,000 is actually not that much.

If he didn't fight, Liu Bei might not be able to win it in one fell swoop, and Liu Bei's brain couldn't do it.

At that time, no matter which one could send 750,000 troops to the front at one time, it would be able to unify the three kingdoms. The point is, where did the army of so many people come from? Liu Bei's total army of Wu was only 46,000 (including the Tujia army), and it became 750,000 when Luo Guanzhong blew it casually.

Lu Xun was also 42 years old at the time, no younger than Zhuge Liang, giving the impression of a young man who made his debut...Now the given discussion title can only be on the keyboard!

It's no problem to take Liangzhou, and then close Chang'an.

It should be possible, with a strong number of officers and soldiers.

Historically, there are up to 80,000, and generally it should be 50,000, not so much.

There are 750,000 there, in fact, it is only about 5---70,000, Yizhou's territory is good, but unfortunately there is no capital and time for development, and compared with the Wei State and Wu State in the same period, there is no advantage, to unify the world, you can only wait for the opportunity.

Liu Bei did not have an army of 750,000 at all. How can a country with a population of just over 3 million have so many young people, and a person has to grow up to be fifteen or sixteen years old before he can fight, let alone other borders that have to be defended. In the future, six out of Qishan and nine out of Qishan, Shu will never build robots to fight the master!

Even Dongwu can't take it, and he still wants to take Chang'an, what do you want, Zhuge Kongming, Longzhong is very clear about mentioning, Donghe Sun Quan, Cao Cao in the north, occupy Jingzhou Yizhou, wait for the world to change, and order a general to take the people of Jingzhou out of Qinchuan, in other words, Zhuge Liang's plan is to occupy Jingzhou, Yizhou, and the world will change, so the Northern Expedition to the Central Plains, in fact? ? Jingzhou is lost, the Central Plains is not chaotic, the reality has long deviated from Zhuge Lianglong's plan, and future generations are still guessing that he can unify !!

When did Liu Bei have more than 500,000 troops?

Liu Bei's army of 750,000 is actually not that much.