If Zhuge Liang doesn t go out of Qishan and concentrates on fighting Dongwu, can he destroy Dongwu?

Updated on history 2024-07-11
17 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-12

    It can't destroy Wu, and it may make Shu Han perish faster.

    01, if Zhuge Liang chooses to cut Wu. Zhuge Liang's highest military achievement in his life was the Northern Expedition, but Zhuge Liang's Northern Expedition did not achieve much. If Zhuge Liang did not choose the Northern Expedition, but chose the Eastern Expedition to attack Wu, whether Eastern Wu would be killed by Zhuge Liang, I personally think it is impossible.

    There are two reasons, one is that Soochow is not a country of rapid death; The second is that Shu Han may not be able to defeat Eastern Wu, and the final result is that Cao Wei will reap the benefits of the fisherman. Let's talk about the first reason first, Soochow is a medium strength in the Three Kingdoms, but Soochow is not so easy to destroy.

    In the more than ten years that Shu Han was in Sichuan and Shu, Cao Wei mainly wanted to attack Eastern Wu, but the result was completely ineffective, but it allowed Eastern Wu to take some advantage, Cao Wei couldn't, what capital did Shu Han have。Moreover, Soochow has been deeply rooted in Jiangdong, Sun Quan advocates co-governance with the Jiangdong scholars, and is supported by the Jiangdong scholars, plus Jiangdong is relatively wealthy and has many talents, Jiangdong is obviously not a country that will die quickly.

    02, Shu Han may not be able to beat Jiangdong. In fact, Shu Han, whether it is Eastern Wu or Cao Wei, cannot be defeated in terms of hard power. Shu Han has been greatly injured after the battle of Yiling, although it has recovered under the governance of Zhuge Liang, but the Shu Han in the land of Sichuan and Shu is obviously not as rich as the Jiangdong region, and the Shu Han lost to the Eastern Wu in terms of strength.

    And the generals of Eastern Wu are also famous generals, whether it is Lu Xun or his son Lu Kang, they are very good in military ability.

    There is another key reason, Shu Han did not help. Shu Han attacked Eastern Wu, Cao Wei must not be able to help Shu Han, Cao Wei can't wait for the two families to fight, it is best to lose both, let Cao Wei sit and reap the benefits of the fisherman. Moreover, if Shu Han is defeated by Eastern Wu, Cao Wei will quickly attack Han and swallow Shu Han, and attacking Eastern Wu will only lead Shu Han to destruction, while attacking Cao Wei is different, Eastern Wu feels that it will help Shu Han, because Cao Wei was the common enemy of the two families at that time.

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-11

    Even if Zhuge Liang concentrates on fighting Eastern Wu, he can't destroy Eastern Wu, because there are many capable soldiers and strong generals in Eastern Wu, and if Zhuge Liang starts a war with Eastern Wu, it will be Cao Wei who will benefit.

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-10

    can't be extinguished, because the strength of Soochow at that time was also relatively strong, and if you take the initiative to lead troops to attack, whether it is the familiarity of the terrain or the food, it will not have an advantage.

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-09

    It should be possible to destroy Soochow, because the national strength of Soochow at that time was not very strong.

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-08

    This problem is not a very simple war problem, Zhuge Liang's insistence on the Northern Expedition is more complicated. Why did Zhuge Liang go on the Northern Expedition? The goal of Zhuge Liang's Northern Expedition was to fight, and at that time Liu Bei died, and all the government of Shu was controlled by Zhuge Liang, and the young emperor had no power.

    After the young emperor gradually became an adult, some people resisted Zhuge Liang's control of the government and his style was domineering. stipulates that Zhuge Liang's power is decentralized, and Zhuge Liang is naturally unwilling! But I can't stand the trouble of everyone every day, so I can't occupy it all the time, otherwise it will really be true, after all, the name is not right.

    Zhuge Liang can only keep coming out to fight, and once he fights, Zhuge Liang can control the army logically, without taking out the military power, as long as the military power is in hand, then Zhuge Liang will be determined in Shu. Therefore, Zhuge Liang will continue the Northern Expedition, and only by continuing to fight can Zhuge Liang always control the military power.

    Zhuge Liang often only attacked Wei on the Northern Expedition, but did not fight Eastern Wu, the fundamental reason was that at that time, the forces of Shu and Eastern Wu were relatively poor, and the Western Han forces were the strongest of the Three Kingdoms. If Zhuge Liang attacks Eastern Wu, then once he is entangled with Eastern Wu, and the Western Han Dynasty takes the opportunity to sneak attack Shu, then Shu will be attacked on both sides, and the end can not care about each other, once this Shu State does not die, it is very close to death.

    It just so happened that the internal strife in Wei was more serious, especially the clan faction to which Sima Yi belonged and the clan faction to which Cao Shuang belonged. But Sima Yi was obviously in a low position, so Zhuge Liang expected the internal struggle of Wei and took this opportunity to consume the comprehensive national strength of the Western Han Dynasty, and of course he would assist Sima Yi externally. Sima Yi was in a low position, Zhuge Liang would fight, and as soon as Zhuge Liang went on a northern expedition, the Western Han Dynasty needed to give Sima Yi military power.

    As soon as Sima Yi obtained the military power, he went to the arena to fight Zhuge Liang, Zhuge Liang needed to be defeated, and he was really uncomfortable singing and reconciling!

    The purpose of Zhuge Liang's Northern Expedition is to control the military power logically, and the victory or loss of the war is not critical, the most important thing is to always control the military power. Zhuge Liang only had continuous Northern Expeditions, continuous unsuccessful, and continuous Northern Expeditions. In short, it is a constant war, so that you can always control the power of the army.

    Therefore, this is why Zhuge Liang came out of Qishan and continued the Northern Expedition without attacking Eastern Wu.

  6. Anonymous users2024-02-07

    Six out: refers to six out of Qishan, after Liu Bei's death, in order to complete the great cause of assisting Han Xingliu Liu, Zhuge Liang fought Sima Yi in the Central Plains six times, and each time he sent troops from Qishan.

    Donghe: Donghe and Sun Quan put Liu Bei into political contact with Sun Shangxiang, and joined forces with Eastern Wu to defeat Cao Cao in the Battle of Red Cliffs.

    Collect Erchuan: Collect Dongchuan and Xichuan, that is, Jingyi Erchuan, and lay a foundation for Shuhan.

    Northern refusal: Fight against Cao Cao in the north.

    Eight formations: refers to the "Eight Formations" created by Zhuge Liang, which absorbs the permutations and combinations of Jingtian and Taoist Bagua, is compatible with astronomy and geography, and is a rare combat formation in ancient times.

  7. Anonymous users2024-02-06

    Since Jingzhou was lost, the opportunity for the Northern Expedition also disappeared, but if Kong Ming could make good use of Mengda's chess piece, it might not be unsuccessful, but he was still wrong in his calculations, and the opportunity disappeared. Second, Confucius Temple was too careful, during the Northern Expedition, if he used Wei Yan's strategy to enter Chang'an from the sloping valley, and then turned back and responded to Kong Ming, the sneak attack might not fail, but he took the strategy of one battalion at a time, and it failed again. When Jingzhou had been lost, and the opportunity for the Northern Expedition was gradually missed because of his disappearance, although he had seven Northern Expeditions, he also failed, and the important thing is that Liu Bei's Shu Han because of its growing power, caused his ally Sun Quan to fall to Cao Wei, which was one of his main failures, although this was Liu Bei's subjective mistake, but he was advised to be unfavorable, is it not a dereliction of duty.

  8. Anonymous users2024-02-05

    I want to tell you that it is out of Qishan.

  9. Anonymous users2024-02-04

    First of all, there is a problem with what you said, Zhuge Liang did not dare to attack the Eastern Wu regime, but Zhuge Liang did not need to attack the Eastern Wu regime. Although the relationship between the Eastern Wu regime and the Shu Han regime is very deep, from the grievances between Zhou Yu and Zhuge Liang, to the grievances of Guan Yu's death and defeat of Maicheng, until Liu Bei's battle of Yiling, which caused the Shu Han regime to be greatly damaged. The relationship between the Shu Han regime and the Eastern Wu regime has always been not very friendly, even if Liu Bei married Sun Quan's sister Sun Shangxiang, this does not mean that the relationship between the Eastern Wu regime and the Shu Han regime is good.

    The reason why Zhuge Liang was so obsessed with the Northern Expedition to Wei was not because Zhuge Liang hated the Cao Wei regime. It was because the Cao Wei regime was blocked in the north of the Shu Han regime, and if the Shu Han regime wanted to develop and expand its own power, he had to dispose of the Cao Wei regime that was blocking him to the north. Otherwise, the Shu Han regime would have been trapped in the Chengdu Plain by the Cao Wei regimeIn the Three Kingdoms era, the development of the Chengdu Plain was not very good, and it can even be said that the Shu Han regime was developing the Chengdu Plain.

    Although the Chengdu Plain is fertile, it is sparsely populated. At that time, people were still more inclined to the north, where the Cao Wei regime was located.

    Therefore, if Zhuge Liang wants to strengthen the power of Shu Han, he must go on a northern expedition, which is not something that Zhuge Liang can decide. If Zhuge Liang didn't go on a northern expedition,Then the Shu Han regime will be trapped and will not have any chance of development, that is to say, it can only wait for death. Zhuge Liang did not dare to provoke the Eastern Wu regime while carrying out the Northern Expedition, Zhuge Liang was not a god, he could not have both.

    If nothing else, let's just say that the Shu Han regime itself is not so strong, maybe the Cao Wei regime can wage war against two countries at the same time.

    However, as far as the Shu Han regime was concerned, Zhuge Liang could only temporarily put aside his hatred for the Eastern Wu regime and devote himself to the Northern Expedition, seeking opportunities to expand himself. This is also the reason why Zhuge Liang made several Northern Expeditions, Zhuge Liang also knew that his Northern Expedition would damage the national strength of the Shu Han regime, but Zhuge Liang had no choice, he had to carry out the Northern Expedition.

  10. Anonymous users2024-02-03

    Because if he is strong in the art of war, he has a lot of capable consciousness to help Wu Guo conquer the world, and he does not dare to provoke Wu Guo easily.

  11. Anonymous users2024-02-02

    Longzhong's pair illustrates this point very well, which is also Zhuge Liang's strategic plan. It's not that you don't fight Soochow, but the time has not come. Zhuge Liang planned to make plans after beating Cao Wei.

  12. Anonymous users2024-02-01

    Because there are many talents in Wu State, the typical one is Zhou Yu, Zhuge Liang does not dare to offend Zhou Yu, otherwise he may have to worry about his life.

  13. Anonymous users2024-01-31

    The premise of Zhuge Liang's six out of Qishan is to be friendly with Sun Wu, if Zhuge Liang sends troops to fight against Sun Wu, then Cao Wei will definitely come to get a piece of the pie, so the gains outweigh the losses.

  14. Anonymous users2024-01-30

    Zhuge Liang invaded Wei, how did he enter the Central Plains eastward? The Central Plains here should refer to the Luoyang area, east into the Central Plains, that is to say, starting from Chengdu in Shu Han, passing through Yong'an, arriving at Yiling, and then going north to attack Xiangyang, attack Wancheng, and take Luoyang. It is impossible to enter the Central Plains eastward at all, the east of Shu Han is Jingzhou of Wu, if Zhuge Liang invades Wei and advances eastward, then it will inevitably pass through the territory of Wu, what should Wu do?

    It must be that Zhuge Liang is not allowed to pass, with Sun Quan's urine, he is not always on guard against Zhuge Liang, you must know that Jingzhou was taken by Sun Quan's sneak attack, and the more he stole it, the more he was afraid that others would steal it in the same way.

    Moreover, the Eastern Union with Sun Quan is also Zhuge Liang's established policy, and when Wei exists, Zhuge Liang will definitely not change the established national policy. Even if Sun Quan agrees with you to borrow the land of Wu to attack the Central Plains, if you Zhuge Liang fights like this, it is impossible to enter the Central Plains, and the Shu army will be annihilated. What was the purpose of Zhuge Liang's Northern Expedition?

    It has never been Chang'an, and the purpose of Zhuge Liang's Northern Expedition is to take Longyou. Judging from the route of Zhuge Liang's Northern Expedition, Zhuge Liang's five Northern Expeditions, three of which were out of Qishan, Zhuge Liang's strategic purpose was to first take Longyou, cut off the connection between Cao Wei Guanzhong and Liangzhou, and further encroach on Yongliang, and then capture Chang'an, and then rely on the land of Guanzhong, take Hangu Pass as a risk, go east out of Hangu, attack Luoyang, and return to the old capital.

    Zhuge Liang's goal is very clear, and it is also very suitable for the current situation, Shu is weak and Wei is strong, Zhuge Liang has no way to fight with Wei State, so he can only adopt a roundabout strategy and attack Wei State step by step.

    And the Meridian Valley strategy proposed by Wei Yan, regardless of whether it is successful or not? Strategically, it is also different from Zhuge Liang's established strategy, even if Chang'an is taken, it can't be held, and the Wei State of the Lord on all sides will surround it, and Chang'an will be a lonely city at that time, and it will still be lost, so Zhuge Liang rejected Wei Yan's Meridian Valley strategy. And the eastward expansion into the Central Plains is even more unreliable, which has been explained earlier, and the most correct strategy is Zhuge Liang's established strategy of going west out of Qishan, so Zhuge Liang has to choose.

  15. Anonymous users2024-01-29

    The first is that supply is a problem, the second is that the goal is too obvious, and the third is that the Wei State in the Central Plains is heavily guarded, and even Guan Yu occupies Jingzhou, and he can't defeat Xiangfan, let alone Zhuge Liang.

  16. Anonymous users2024-01-28

    Because Qishan is very close to Zhuge Liang, and the terrain is easy to defend and difficult to attack, Zhuge Liang will go west out of Qishan for safety reasons.

  17. Anonymous users2024-01-27

    Because Zhuge Liang invaded Wei to enter the Central Plains eastward, he needed to pass through Jingzhou in Eastern Wu, which would lead to insufficient logistics support, so he chose to go west out of Qishan.

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