Sun Chuanting s history is extremely high, why did he lose to Li Zicheng?

Updated on history 2024-02-13
24 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-06

    At the end of the Ming Dynasty, natural and man-made disasters continued to occur, and class contradictions became increasingly acute. The domestic famine continued, the displaced people rose everywhere, and soon the peasant uprising broke out, and the Houjin forces outside the Guanxi were eyeing the Ming Dynasty, and the Ming Dynasty building was about to fall, in this case, there were also many famous generals who could turn the tide.

    Everyone had the opportunity to subvert the inevitability of the fall of the Ming Dynasty, but everyone was like a flash in the pan, with a deep sigh of fate. Sun Chuanting is one of them, from literature to martial arts, carrying the broken mountains and rivers of the Ming Dynasty.

    Sun Chuanting (1593-1643), the word Boya, also the word Baigu, the word Baigu, Daizhou Town Wuwei people. He was born in 1593 and died in 1643 at the age of about 51. A.D. 1619 Jinshi.

    In 1642, he served as the squire of the military department and the governor of Shaanxi. In the following year, he was promoted to the secretary of the military department (renamed the superintendent).

    Sun Chuanting's greatest achievements in his life were all in the suppression of the peasant rebellion. He once captured the first king Gao Yingxiang, and then together with Hong Chengchou, he defeated Li Zicheng's troops.

    even made Li Zicheng almost completely wiped out, but unfortunately it was because Emperor Chongzhen hastily transferred troops to meet Huang Taijigave Li Zicheng the opportunity to make a comeback, and this was the later King Chuang into Beijing.

    During the 25 years from 1619 to 1643, Sun Chuanting was defeated and died in 1643, and he gradually rose from Yongcheng Zhixian to the military department Shangshu, commanding the military affairs of seven provinces, and successively participated in and presided over dozens of suppression activities against the peasant rebel army in the late Ming Dynasty, which was deeply appreciated by the Ming court.

    Whether it is in the joint encirclement and suppression of the "four positive and six corners", or in the separate action of "flood guarding the key passes".With his unique cunning, resourcefulness, and decisiveness, he made the peasant rebel army in difficult situations many times and became a rare trump card in the hands of the Ming court. Therefore, the "History of the Ming Dynasty" has the saying that "the court dies and the Ming dies".

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-05

    Because Sun Chuanting did not have Li Zicheng's military acumen and ability, he would inevitably lose.

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-04

    A person's high evaluation does not mean that his own military leadership is very good, but Li Zicheng's military leadership ability is very good.

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-03

    Sun Chuanting only has a very high historical evaluation, but his actual combat should still be inferior to Li Zicheng.

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-02

    The imperial court is corrupt, the finances are collapsing, and the army can still have combat effectiveness, and there is no doubt that Sun Chuanting lost to Li Zicheng.

  6. Anonymous users2024-02-01

    Because he must have been inferior to Li Zicheng in some tactics, he lost.

  7. Anonymous users2024-01-31

    History has a high evaluation, but he has to use soldiers, generals, and military talents, which are not as good as Li Zicheng.

  8. Anonymous users2024-01-30

    Because Sun Chuanting has always been an arrogant person in history, it is normal for him to lose to Li Zicheng.

  9. Anonymous users2024-01-29

    Li Zicheng is naturally more capable than Sun Chuanting, and he will naturally win.

  10. Anonymous users2024-01-28

    Because Sun Chuanting has always been very arrogant, he looked down on Li Zicheng very little, so he failed in the end.

  11. Anonymous users2024-01-27

    The reason why Sun Chuanting couldn't beat Li Zicheng in the later period was that the Ming Dynasty was no longer the Ming Dynasty where all countries came to the dynasty, and the Ming Dynasty, which was about to collapse, would not allow any more mistakes.

    After hundreds of years of development in the Ming Dynasty, a large amount of wealth was intercepted by bureaucrats, nobles, and landlords, and every time the imperial court conscripted soldiers and paid grain, they were apportioned to the poor people, and the poorer the poorer the poorer, the contradictions between the court and the people became more and more acute.

    Sun Chuanting recruited and trained troops through the "Qing Army Qingtun" was the correct approach, but unfortunately the difficulties he faced were obviously too great, and his sacrifice also indicated that the Ming Dynasty's vital forces were exhausted, and the Ming Dynasty could no longer organize troops with combat effectiveness.

    In fact, Emperor Chongzhen's suspicion and lack of kindness are also one of the reasons for Sun Chuanting's failure, Sun Chuanting won the battle but ended up in prison, and after being released from prison, he re-led the troops but still did not give money and food, so he urged Sun Chuanting to take the initiative to attack and send him to death every day.

    Sun Chuanting's sacrifice process

    After pacifying the peasant rebel army, Sun Chuanting was transferred to the border to guard against foreign enemies, but Sun Chuanting had a conflict with Yang Sichang, the first assistant, because of his great merit, the two looked at each other unpleasantly, and their opinions were different everywhere.

    Emperor Chongzhen did not believe Yang Sichang's words at first, but personally sent someone to verify whether Sun Chuanting was really deaf, and the result was that Sun Chuanting was really deaf, but Emperor Chongzhen still sent him to prison. The entire court knew that Sun Chuanting was wronged, but no one dared to speak up, so Sun Chuanting was imprisoned for three years.

    Later, Yang Sichang and others were defeated by the comeback Li Zicheng, and strategic places such as Kaifeng were besieged by King Chuang, and then Emperor Chongzhen remembered Sun Chuanting who was locked in prison, but Sun Chuanting had just returned to lead the troops to the front line, and before he had time to understand the battle situation, Emperor Chongzhen issued an order to urge Sun Chuanting to immediately meet the enemy.

    Under the urging of Emperor Chongzhen, Sun Chuanting had no time to train again, so he could only lead the remaining soldiers and horses from the previous battle to fight Li Zicheng, and the result was naturally defeated.

    After the defeat in this battle, Sun Chuanting decided to defend Tongguan to prevent the rebel army from breaking through the western gateway of the capital, but Emperor Chongzhen would not give him such a chance, as the situation deteriorated, the imperial court kept urging Sun Chuanting to fight, and Emperor Chongzhen's holy decree also followed, under the oppression of the emperor's order, he had to take the initiative to attack without grasping.

    It's a pity that the heavens are not beautiful, and the successive heavy rain makes the Ming army's firearms dumb, Li Zicheng took the opportunity to break the Ming army, and Sun Chuanting saw that his subordinates were in a mess, so he had to issue an order to retreat to Tongguan.

    In October of the sixteenth year of Chongzhen, Li Zicheng besieged Tongguan, in the case of no grain and grass inside, no reinforcements outside, Sun Chuanting decided to break through in order to preserve the vitality of the Ming army, but was surrounded by the rebel army on the way to break through, and finally died in the chaos, and the body could not be found.

  12. Anonymous users2024-01-26

    Personally, I think the main reason why Sun Chuanting lost to Li Zicheng can be analyzed from the following three aspects. First of all, Emperor Chongzhen's mistakes in employing people, you must know that one of the biggest reasons why Sun Chuanting lost to Li Zicheng is because Sun Chuanting's big boss Chongzhen is really an emperor who can't use people. Secondly, another major reason for Sun Chuanting's defeat was the struggle of his colleagues to restrain his colleagues and squeeze out the court.

    Moreover, the Ming Dynasty has run out, and no one can turn the tide.

    In fact, the reason why Li Zicheng was able to defeat Sun Chuanting is that the person who should be thanked is Emperor Chongzhen, and friends who are familiar with the history of the Ming Dynasty must know that the first generation of King Chuang was defeated by Sun Chuanting. And the second-generation king Li Zicheng let Sun Chuanting fight only a dozen people, and he is about to complete the historic task of capturing Li Zicheng alive. But at this time, Chongzhen transferred Li Zicheng to the outside of the gate to fight against the Eight Banners Iron Cavalry, and wasted an opportunity to completely defeat Li Zicheng.

    The reason why Sun Chuanting lost to Li Zicheng is inseparable from his colleagues and colleagues in the imperial court, and even the superior leaders gave him problems and did not cooperate. No matter how successful a person is, he also needs the help of others, Sun Chuanting went out to fight without the cooperation of food and grass, without the support of his brother troops, and even his own soldiers were transferred away by others, how could such a protagonist not lose the battle?

    There is a saying that is very reasonable, it is called the times make heroes, but there is also a saying that the will of heaven makes people, and it is undeniable that Sun Chuanting is a generation of generals with military talents. But Daming's company is in the hands of Chongzhen, it is already dilapidated and can no longer be dilapidated, even if you Sun Chuanting has great ability, you have no power to return to heaven and there is no way to stop the end of Daming's luck.

  13. Anonymous users2024-01-25

    At first, Sun Chuanting, Hong Chengchou and other famous generals pressed the rebel army to fight, but later Sun Chuanting was imprisoned for three years in the middle, and when Chongzhen used him, the rebel army became powerful, and it was not at all something that the corrupt court could contend with.

  14. Anonymous users2024-01-24

    The reason why he lost to Li Zicheng was because he did not have some elite soldiers in his hands at that time, and the logistics were very inadequate, resulting in a shortage of food, and the weather at that time was very bad, and someone had already evacuated with the troops at that time, so he finally lost to Li Zicheng.

  15. Anonymous users2024-01-23

    The main reason is that Sun Chuanting was a little light on the enemy at the beginning, and he didn't expect Li Zicheng's peasant army to have such good combat effectiveness, especially Liu Zongming's fighting power in Li Zicheng's army.

  16. Anonymous users2024-01-22

    When Li Zicheng rebelled, Sun Chuanting failed, because it was caused by Sun Chuanting's misjudgment of the battle situation. At the same time, this is also a historical necessity.

  17. Anonymous users2024-01-21

    Sun Chuanting's leadership was originally an old and weak soldier, with insufficient food, grass and weapons, and he fought a long distance out of Tongguan, exhausted, outnumbered, and naturally defeated.

  18. Anonymous users2024-01-20

    Why did you lose to yourself today? Because their leadership thinking is wrong, and so is their strategic position.

  19. Anonymous users2024-01-19

    In fact, Sun Chuanting is not unable to beat Li Zicheng. As long as Sun Chuanting is given a few months, he can also train an army that has a hard anus to win over Li Zicheng and Zhang Xianzhong, these peasant armies, and he and Hong Chengchou are both good at fighting the peasant army professionally, provided that Chongzhen does not urge him, and insists on giving Li Zicheng favors.

    Sun Chuanting didn't blindly kill and surrender, for example, Li Yangchun was treated preferentially after he surrendered, it may be that Sun Chuanting felt that Li Yangchun surrendered on his own initiative, which was different from these officials and soldiers who surrendered after besieging the city.

    The officials and gentry under the rule of the Chuang army were confused by this kind of divine operation, and we all died horizontally and vertically? Those who helped Li Zicheng defend the city should be killed, and those who opened the door to greet the officials and soldiers should also be killed? In this case, except for a few people like Qiu Zhitao who loves the Ming Dynasty very much, is not afraid of being a martyr, and has long been in contact with Sun Chuanting, others can only follow Li Zicheng and Sun Chuanting to fight to the end.

    The rogues want money, and the officers and soldiers want their lives.

  20. Anonymous users2024-01-18

    Sun Chuanting has not lost a single defeat in his life, but he has never beaten Li Zicheng. In fact, this is not because Sun Chuanting is not good, but mainly because of the imperial court, the party struggle is too strong, so Li Zicheng was given a chance, so Li Zicheng finally turned defeat into victory.

    Sun Chuanting is the governor of the Ming Dynasty, and in his war career, there is almost no defeat, although he is a scholar, but as soon as he made a move, he killed Gao Yingxiang, and later killed Gao Yingxiang's successor Li Zicheng There are only twenty people left, it stands to reason that having such a talent can make the Ming Dynasty turn the tide, but in the end Li Zicheng still succeeded, why is this, let's analyze it together.

    First, the will of God is indisobedient.

    Sun Chuanting is a fierce general, he is wise and brave, can fight well, in the battle against Li Zicheng's peasant army, several times in a row, Li Zicheng collapsed into an army, but because at that time they also had to deal with Zhang Xianzhong's forces, so Li Zicheng's army was given a chance, but later Sun Chuanting still suppressed Li Zicheng's peasant army, and in the end Li Zicheng's army only had more than 20 people left, it is in this case, Li Zicheng can still live, and find a chance to rise again, isn't this the will of heaven, so, Providence is the greatest enemy.

    Second, corruption in the imperial court is also one of the main reasons.

    The party struggle in the imperial court is very strong, and Sun Chuanting's biggest enemy is Yang Sichang, plus at that time King Chongzhen was very suspicious, and he wanted to interfere in many things, but he didn't manage it well, Sun Chuanting said, those who win the hearts of the people win the world, when King Chongzhen took over, the Ming Dynasty was already unpopular with the people, and wanted to oppose Li Zicheng at that time was very popular with the people, which is why Li Zicheng always failed, but he was always able to make a comeback in Dongshan, if King Chongzhen was more wise, did not command randomly, and relied on Sun Chuanting's ability, Maybe the Ming Dynasty still had a fight, but in the end, Sun Chuanting was stripped of his official position and removed his military power, which gave Li Zicheng a chance to rise again.

    Third, there is the question of time.

    Time waits for no one, during the period when Sun Chuanting couldn't fight, Li Zicheng, who only had 20 people left, took advantage of this opportunity to transform into a man-eating crocodile again, like a spark burning the prairie like a spark, and Sun Chuanting didn't help it at this time, and it was useless to fight against Li Zicheng again, Sun Chuanting already knew that this was a defeat, but he still went to war, because he didn't have a choice, and finally ended his 51-year-old life in the place where he was once famous, Sun Chuanting died, the Ming Dynasty died, and in this way, the last pillar of the Ming Dynasty fell.

  21. Anonymous users2024-01-17

    The main reason is that in the last years of the Ming Dynasty, the court officials were corrupt, the party was fierce, and the internal and external troubles were right, Emperor Chongzhen wanted to interfere in everything, Sun Chuanting did not have enough authority, and Emperor Chongzhen did not trust him. The most important thing is that the Ming Dynasty has lost the support of the people, and Li Zicheng conformed to the people's will, so in time, Li Zicheng only had more than 20 people left, and he still did not fail.

  22. Anonymous users2024-01-16

    At that time, the imperial court was too corrupt, and Sun Chuanting had to deal with Li Zicheng and distract a lot of energy from partisanship, which means that he did not spend all his energy to deal with Li Zicheng.

  23. Anonymous users2024-01-15

    Sun Chuanting, who has no defeats, is normal that he can't beat Li Zicheng, Li Zicheng's army is very reckless, rampage and does not talk about the art of war, Sun Chuanting has never seen this kind of fighting, so he was beaten and fled!

  24. Anonymous users2024-01-14

    The reason why Sun Chuanting lost to Li Zicheng is that the army was too weak in the last years of the Ming Dynasty at that time, as well as various advantages of time and place.

    Sun Chuanting was the last general of the Ming Dynasty after the death of Yuan Zonghuan, and in the last years of the Ming Dynasty, the imperial court ** faced the southern Jurchen tribe in the north at the same time, and faced the peasant uprising internally. Among them, the rebel army led by Li Zicheng was huge, and Li Zicheng's threat to burn or far exceed the Jurchen people to go south.

    We must know that in the last years of the Ming Dynasty, ** formed a contradiction with the local wealthy families. The local tyrants are simply unwilling to obey the rule of the ** dynasty, and in Chinese history, any dynasty will basically rule for more than three hundred years. The same was true of the Ming Dynasty, which was rotten within the army in the last years of the Ming Dynasty.

    The top generals of many armies are often greedy for military salaries in private, which also leads to many soldiers who are not willing to fight bravely at all, so what can such an army use to resist the peasant rebels? <>

    In addition to the weakness of the army, it is also related to the cause of the disease in the army. At that time, Sun Chuanting's army was confronting Li Zicheng's army, but it happened that during this period, a large-scale plague suddenly broke out in Sun Chuanting's army. You must know that in ancient times, the plague was a fatal blow to an army, so Li Zicheng seized this opportunity to defeat Sun Chuanting from the front, Li Zicheng could fail countless times, but Sun Chuanting could only fail once.

    Although Emperor Chongzhen's ability is indeed much better than that of the previous emperors in some aspects, he does not have much talent in this aspect when it comes to army command. When Sun Chuanting's army was confronted by Li Zicheng, Emperor Chongzhen always interfered with Sun Chuanting's strategy on the side in order to grasp military power, which also led to many problems in the strategy of the army. It is not surprising that an army with a disunified military order will be defeated by the rebel army, and an army that does not carry out the unified order will not be able to exert its original combat effectiveness at all.

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