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Mencius preceded Xunzi.
Mencius, born in about 372 BC, was a famous philosopher, thinker, politician, educator during the Warring States period, and one of the representatives of Confucianism, second only to Confucius.
Together with Confucius, it is called Confucius and Mencius.
Xunzi was born in about 313 BC, and was a famous thinker, writer, and politician at the end of the Warring States Period.
Therefore, judging from the birth dates of Mencius and Xunzi, Mencius appeared earlier than Xunzi.
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Mencius (c. 372 B.C., 289 B.C.), the name Ke, the character Ziyu. A native of Zou during the Warring States Period, a descendant of Lu Guoqing's father. He was a famous thinker and educator in ancient China, and one of the representative figures of Confucianism during the Warring States Period.
Xunzi (about 313 B.C. 238 BC), the name of the Qing, Han nationality, because of the avoidance of the Western Han Dynasty Emperor Xuan Emperor Liu Xun, because of the ancient sound of "Xun" and "Sun", so it is also called Sun Qing. A native of Zhao at the end of the Warring States period of the Zhou Dynasty. A famous thinker, writer, politician, one of the representative figures of Confucianism, he was honored as "Xun Qing" by the people of the time.
As can be seen from the above resume, Mencius was earlier than Xunzi.
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Mencius was early, and Xunzi was a student of Mencius.
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Mencius: Ji surname, Meng's family, Ming Ke, Ziyu, Zou people during the Warring States Period. He was a great thinker, educator, and representative of Confucianism.
Mencius inherited Confucius's doctrine of benevolence and envy and was a very aspiring politician. Like Confucius, he sought to translate Confucian political theories and ideas of statecraft into concrete ideas of national governance and implement them throughout the world. At that time, in order to realize their political ideas, various thinkers lobbied the princes of various countries.
Against this social background, Mencius began to travel around the world, lobbying among the monarchs of various countries to promote his own political ideas.
Xunzi: Name, Ziqing, Huaxia nationality, Zhao Guoren at the end of the Warring States Period. A famous thinker, writer, and politician, he was honored or nuclear "Xun Qing" by the people of the time. He served as the sacrificial wine of the Qi State Jixia School Palace three times, and later served as the Chulan Mausoleum Order.
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The difference between Xun and Meng lies not in the difference in the Confucian idea of "benevolence", nor in the difference in the Confucian logical argumentation method, but because the two have different emphases in the ideals and practices of Confucianism. On the surface, it seems that good and evil are opposites, but in fact, they reflect the Confucian nature of Xun and Meng, which are extremely consistent.
Mencius and Xunzi both believed that sex is not unchangeable and does not determine everything, so the so-called good and evil nature are innate and acquired, and there is no good or evil in the original, and good and evil are just different premises of the logical arguments of the two. Mencius's "righteousness" is out of the heart, but "those who are twice as good as others and do not count cannot do their best." "If you can support it, nothing will grow; If you lose your nourishment, you will lose nothing".
The righteous and righteous "ask for it, and give it away." Although there is something in nature, it is possible to lose it in the day after tomorrow. Although Xunzi's benevolence and righteousness are outside of his natural nature, the gentleman "turns his nature into hypocrisy" and "seeks to have it by forcing learning".
What you don't have in nature can also be acquired in the day after tomorrow. So it doesn't matter whether you have it or not, the key is to see if you can have it the day after tomorrow. Therefore, the theory of sexual goodness and the theory of sexual evil are also boiled down to the Confucian ideal of "benevolent government" and the practical principles of "seeking" and "learning", and there is no essential difference between the two in this regard.
Since Mencius and Xunzi are in agreement, why do one advocate sexual goodness and the other advocate sexual evil? The reason for this is that the historical environment in which the two live is different. In this regard, Sima Qian has already pointed out. The "Historical Records" combines Mencius and Xunzi, which is fully considered.
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Mencius (372 BC 289 BC), Mingke, Zizi Yu (to be examined, a word Ziche or Ziju) (press: car, ancient text; Yu, today's word. The car and the sound of the residence, is the reason, Ziyu, Ziche, Ziju, are all Mencius Zizi).
A native of Zou during the Warring States Period, a descendant of Lu Guoqing's father. He was a famous thinker and educator in ancient China, and a representative figure of Confucianism during the Warring States Period. He is the author of the book Mencius.
Mencius inherited and carried forward the ideas of Confucius, and became a generation of Confucian masters second only to Confucius, and had a comprehensive and huge influence on Chinese culture in later generations.
Xunzi (about 313 B.C. 238 BC), the name of the Qing, Han nationality, because of the avoidance of the Western Han Dynasty Emperor Xuan Emperor Liu Xun, because of the ancient sound of "Xun" and "Sun", so it is also called Sun Qing. A native of Zhao at the end of the Warring States Period. A famous thinker, writer, politician, one of the representative figures of Confucianism, he was honored as "Xun Qing" by the people of the time.
It has been out of the sacrificial wine of the school palace of the Qi State three times, and then it was the order of Chu Lanling (now Shandong Lanling). Xunzi developed Confucianism and advocated the theory of sexual evil, and his doctrine was often compared with Mencius's 'theory of sexual goodness', and Xunzi also made a significant contribution to the reorganization of Confucian classics.
Mencius and Xunzi are both important representatives of Confucianism after Confucius, and they are the main figures in the inheritance and development of Confucius's doctrine. There are a lot of similarities between them.
First, their political ideals are the same, and they all pursue great governance, that is, "governing the country and leveling the world."
Second, they all inherited Confucius's idea of benevolence and advocated that human nature should be good. However, while the two inherited and developed Confucianism, they also had many differences, such as Mencius advocating that human nature is inherently good, while Xunzi believed that human nature was inherently evil. But their disagreements were always internal to Confucianism, and Xun's critique of Mencius was always internal.
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Both of them are representatives of Confucianism, Mencius insisted on the theory of sexual goodness, and Xunzi insisted on the theory of sexual evil. Mencius lived in an era when the Seven Heroes of the Warring States fought against each other, plundering population and land, and the Seven Kingdoms had no obvious strength or weakness, Mencius hoped to alleviate the suffering of the people with the idea of "the people are noble and the king is light", but Mencius's doctrine of "benevolent government" was not accepted by the rulers. Xunzi was at the end of the Warring States Period, the Qin State was strong and the Six Kingdoms were weak, and the concept that the world was fixed in one was popular.
Xunzi believes that human nature is inherently evil and needs to rely on acquired education and the rule of law to correct human nature, so Xunzi respects Confucianism and law, and Xunzi knows that the unification of the world must rely on Legalist thought, so he cultivated Legalist talents Li Si and Han Feizi.
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Representatives of Confucianism: Mencius advocated the theory of sexual goodness, Xunzi advocated the theory of sexual evil; They dominated the main line of Confucianism at different times, but in history they were the two opposing systems of Confucianism.
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They are both representatives of Confucianism, but because of their different views, they criticize each other.
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What is the relationship between Confucius, Mencius, and Xunzi 1
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Hello, Mencius emphasized"Destiny", asserted"Heaven and man are one";Xunzi emphasizes the nature of heaven and advocates"The difference between heaven and man"。
Hope it helps.
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After Confucius, Confucianism was divided into eight factions, with Mencius and Xunzi each being one faction.
Mencius was the first king, practiced benevolent government, and proposed that the people are noble and the monarch is light, and the benevolent are invincible.
Xun Ziming is the king, recounts etiquette and music, and advocates equal emphasis on etiquette and law, and the king and tyrant.
Core Idea Differences:
Mencius: King of the Dharma, mentioning the theory of goodness;
Xunzi: The queen of the law, mentioning the theory of sexual evil.
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Both came out of Confucianism, revered Confucius, and made outstanding contributions to Chinese Confucianism, but the two had very different views on human nature. Whether it is "good" or "evil" is a matter of opinion, and different people will have different opinions.
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Mencius believed that human nature is inherently good, for example, if you are walking on the street and see a child fall into a well, as long as you have this ability, you will go to him, this is called compassion, and compassion is common to everyone. This is Mencius's view, while Xunzi believes that human nature is inherently evil, but it can be compensated for by acquired education.
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Mencius inherited Confucius, but Bai is du has changed: he advocates the inherent goodness of human nature, zhi is like water under the water, but dao is what he clearly tells again.
The evil of people is caused by others, so it is said that people are good and ungood are caused by others. This point of view has a great influence on the Chinese, and we still do the same, and we blame others for our own mistakes.
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The two have completely different views on human nature, Mencius advocates "sexual goodness", while Xunzi advocates "sexual evil", each with its own reason and opinion.
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Mencius: bai1Advocate the practice of "benevolent government" 2Put forward the people-oriented idea of "the people are noble and the gentleman is light" 3Advocate "DAO
Sex is good" version.
Xunzi: 1Advocate the use of both etiquette and law, and the ruler has the right to use "benevolence and righteousness" and "royal road", and serve virtue 2Put forward the idea of "Junzhou and People's Water", emphasizing the huge power of the peoplePropose "the evil of human nature".
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Mencius emphasized benevolence and righteousness, practiced benevolent government, and practiced the so-called "royal way". Its theoretical basis is the people-oriented ideology, which attaches importance to people's right to survival.
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Mencius's "Theory of Sexual Goodness" and Xunzi's "Theory of Sexual Evil".
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Yi Zhongtian: Xunzi and Mencius look at opposite views, and in essence, they have the same goal.
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