Why did Wei Yan betray Shu, and would Wei Yan really betray Shu Han?

Updated on history 2024-03-25
19 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-07

    It was Yang Yi who said that Wei Yan had betrayed, and Zhuge Liang had already hung up at that time.

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-06

    In fact, Wei Yan's main contradiction is because Zhuge Liang gave military power to Yang Yi, strictly speaking, this is a contradiction between him and Yang Yi. Wei Yan is also a very arrogant person, in the Shu Han Group, not many people can enter his eyes, and he is usually high, so many generals in the Shu Han Group also let Wei Yan. But Yang Yi didn't take Wei Yan seriously, these two people didn't obey anyone, when Wei Yan knew that Zhuge Liang handed over the military power to Yang Yi, his heart was also very angry, at this time he was naturally unwilling, so he forced Yang Yi to hand over the military power, but at this time he didn't think about rebellion at all, so naturally he would not take refuge in Cao Wei.

    Wei Yan had already become the general of the expedition to the west during the Northern Expedition of Zhuge Liang of the Shu Han Dynasty, and he was the Taishou of Hanzhong. In the entire Shuhan Group, except for Zhuge Liang, he should already be a veritable second-in-command. If a person like Wei Yan rejoins Cao Wei Group, it will be difficult for him to obtain so many rights and interests, and he naturally knows this in his heart, so it is impossible for Wei Yan to take the initiative to join Cao Wei at all.

    Wei Yan also made a lot of contributions to the Shu Han group, in the battle of Changsha, Wei Yan killed the Taishou Han Xuan, and later saved Huang Zhong, and also sacrificed the city. Later, when Liu Bei entered Sichuan, Wei Yan made great achievements, and after that, he became the Taishou of Hanzhong, so if emotionally speaking, Wei Yan would not rebel. <>

    During the battle of Hanzhong, Cao Cao once persuaded Wei Yan to surrender with Mingfeng, but at that time, Wei Yan not only scolded Cao Cao, but also directly pulled a bow and shot an arrow at Cao Cao's two front teeth when Cao Cao's two armies were fighting. So if you want to surrender with such a resume, there is a high probability that it will not be reused.

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-05

    The official positions in "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" are not written in much detail.

    In fact, the size of the official position in it does not matter at all, it depends on whether there is military power.

    Before, under the command of Han Xuan, the Taishou of Changsha, Han Xuan was only the lord of a city, and he had a few soldiers.

    And Liu Bei has long had a foundation in Jingzhou, and he must have brought more than the original as a former deputy general.

    In the Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Wei Yan definitely did not rebel just for his official position and military power.

    First, because Han Xuan himself was indeed a straw bag, he didn't know the current affairs, and he suspected that Huang Zhong had colluded with Guan Yu to kill Huang Zhong, and Wei Yan's rebellion at this time could be regarded as saving Huang Zhong's life.

    The second reason is that before, when Liu Bei was under Liu Biao, Wei Yan was also under Liu Biao, and when Cai Mao designed to kill Liu Bei (that is, the time when Liu Bei rode Lu Ma Yuetanxi), Wei Yan helped Liu Bei block the pursuers behind, and he wanted to vote for Liu Bei at that time, but he got separated. After that, he arrived at Han Xuan's command in Changsha. Therefore, Wei Yan had long wanted to defect to Liu Bei.

    Wei Yan's ending has been said above, after Zhuge Liang's death, he was going to rebel again, Zhuge Liang sent Ma Dai to follow Wei Yan before his death, played Infernal Affairs, and killed Wei Yan.

    In addition, in the official history, Wei Yan has actually been following Liu Bei. The above plots are actually made up by the author in "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" in order to enrich the plot. In "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", Wei Yan was also killed by Ma Dai later, but it cannot be seen that he really rebelled.

    The character of Wei Yan can be said to be the place where the conflict between "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" and "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" is the greatest.

    If you are interested, you can take a look at the Three Kingdoms: Wei Yanchuan It is only a few hundred words, but it is in classical Chinese.

    In the official history, Wei Yan's official position in chronological order is:

    Governor Hanzhong Zhenyuan general, led Hanzhong Taishou.

    Zhenbei General Du Tinghou.

    Governor of the front department, leading the prime minister Sima, Liangzhou Thorn History.

    Former military division to conquer the west general, fake festival, South Zheng Hou.

    All of these are after entering Shu.

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-04

    Because of Yang Yi's personal vendetta, Wei Yan raised his troops to take risks.

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-03

    Wei Yan: The character is long, a native of Yiyang, and he is deeply valued by Liu Bei. When Liu Bei entered Sichuan, Wei Yan was appointed as the general of Yamen because of his military exploits, and after Liu Bei captured Hanzhong, he was exceptionally promoted to the general of Zhenyuan, leading Hanzhong to defend and guard Hanzhong, becoming a general in charge of one side.

    Wei Yan guarded Hanzhong for nearly ten years, and then repeatedly accompanied Zhuge Liang on the Northern Expedition, with remarkable achievements. During this period, Wei Yan asked Zhuge Liang many times to give him 10,000 soldiers, and went all the way to tackle the key problems, and finally joined Zhuge Liang in Tongguan, just like Han Xin's example, but Zhuge Liang has not allowed it, so he thinks that he cannot fully exert his talents, and is dissatisfied. Discord with Changshi Yang Yi, after Zhuge Liang's death, the contradiction between the two intensified, fighting for power with each other, Wei Yan was defeated and fled, and was chased and beheaded by Ma Zicha and Dai, and was wiped out by the three clans.

    did not rebel, after Zhuge Liang's death, Wei Yan was framed to death by the villain Yang Yi.

    Throughout Wei Yan's life, his character was rebellious, and his character was beyond the psychological tolerance of the people of his time, which can be seen from what he did. His character is not uncommon in modern times, and it is his super-modern character that determines his tragic end.

  6. Anonymous users2024-02-02

    In the later period of the Shu Han Dynasty, Wei Yan was razed to the three clans for the crime of rebellion, which can be said to be the reason and basis for fabricating Wei Yan's rebellion in "Romance of the Three Kingdoms".

    And general historians generally admit that Wei Yan was unjustly killed. The historical facts are basically like this, Wei Yan and Yang Yi were at odds, and Zhuge Liang did not adopt Wei Yan's radical military propositions. After Zhuge Liang's death, he arranged to withdraw the army, and Zhuge Liang thought that if I died, others would not want the Northern Expedition (this point can be discussed), and handed over the power to Yang Yi and some literati.

    Wei Yan was not convinced, on the one hand, he thought that he had the level to continue the Northern Expedition, and on the other hand, he was dissatisfied with Zhuge Liang's arrangement for Yang Yi and others to return to Chengdu first, and then broke off with Jiang Wei (it seemed that his status was lower), so he rushed back to Chengdu, and burned the bridge to make Yang Yi go slowly. In the end, Wei Yan and Yang Yi accused each other of rebellion, and Yang Yi was a weak literati, and no one believed that he had rebelled, so the crime became Wei Yan's.

    To sum up, Wei Yan is a victim of the civil strife in Shu, and he can't get close to the rebellion, there is already a conclusion in the "Three Kingdoms", Luo Guanzhong is open-mouthed, ignoring history on this issue. But Wei Yan did not accept Zhuge Liang militarily, did not abide by Zhuge Liang's name, and did not have a good relationship with his colleagues.

    "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" is only **, very superficial, because it has a wide spread and great influence, which makes Wei Yan bear the name of disloyalty and injustice.

  7. Anonymous users2024-02-01

    It's a complete distortion. Real history. Wei Yan did not rebel.

  8. Anonymous users2024-01-31

    Because it was a troubled time, and heroes were born in troubled times.

  9. Anonymous users2024-01-30

    The twelfth year of the reign of the Shu Han Dynasty (

  10. Anonymous users2024-01-29

    Wei Yan rebelled in 234 AD.

    In the twelfth year of Jianxing (234), Zhuge Liang's fifth Northern Expedition, Wei Yan was appointed as the striker, dreamed that he had horns on his head, and asked Zhao Zhi, a dreamer, Zhao Zhi said: "The husband Qilin has horns but does not use it, and this is not a fight and the thief wants to destroy himself." But he stepped back and said to men

    The horn is the word, and the knife is also used; With a knife on the head, it is very fierce. ”

    In the autumn of the same year, Zhuge Liang's illness worsened, and he secretly retired from the army after the death of Changshi Yang Yi, Sima Feiyi, and Jiang Wei, etc., so that after Wei Yan was broken, if he delayed or did not obey his orders, he would do as he pleased. Zhuge Liang died, and he was not mourned, Yang Yi ordered Fei Yi to figure out Wei Yan's intentions. Wei Yan replied

    Although the prime minister is dead, but there is still me, how can the world's major affairs be wasted because of the death of one person? Besides, who am I, Wei Yan, and how can I be at the mercy of Yang Yi and be a general after the break? ”

    The army slowly retreated with Yang Yi, Wei Yan was furious, day and night, rushed in front of Yang Yi's army, and burned the pavilion everywhere he walked. Yang Yi and Wei Yan both went to each other to say that the other party had rebelled, and Liu Chan asked Dong Yun and Shi Jiangwan, the governor of the palace, who wanted to rebel, and Dong Jiang and Jiang both guaranteed that Yang Yi suspected Wei Yan. Wei Yan first occupied the mouth of the Nangu and led his army to attack Yang Yi's army, and Yang Yi ordered Wang Ping to defend against Wei Yan in front.

    Wang Ping scolded Wei Yan's vanguard: "Zhuge Gong died, and the bones are not cold, how dare you people do this!" "Wei Yan's army knew that Wei Yan was at fault, and they didn't listen to Wei Yan's orders, so they all dispersed.

    Only Wei Yan and his sons fled to Hanzhong, Yang Yi sent Ma Dai to catch up with Wei Yan and behead him, and dedicated his head to Yang Yi, Yang Yi trampled Wei Yan's head with his feet, and scolded: "Yongnu! Can you do evil again?

    So they exterminated the three tribes of Wei and Yan.

  11. Anonymous users2024-01-28

    He didn't rebel in the first place, he clashed with Yang Yi and mistook it for a mutiny, and he died in the end, and there was no body, and he left a bad reputation, wronged!!

  12. Anonymous users2024-01-27

    Is the rebellion you are talking about betraying Liu Zhang or Liu Bei?

  13. Anonymous users2024-01-26

    If it is the word history, because of following the Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms, that is, Wei Yan did not rebel.

  14. Anonymous users2024-01-25

    In fact, he didn't betray Shu It's just that he wants to prove it to everyone after Zhuge Liang's death I, Wei Yan, am also a famous general, because Zhuge Liang didn't like him during his lifetime, and suppressed and excluded him for a long time, which would cause him to have this kind of thinking In fact, I personally think that Wei Yan has never rebelled against Shu Until the end, he still wanted to resist Wei If Wei Yan didn't die, then the future of Shu would be another phenomenon Zhuge Liang excluded him for three reasons: First, Wei Yan was a demoted general, second, Wei Yan was too high-profile Third, Wei Yan was unwilling to go with Zhuge Liang To put it bluntly, he is unwilling to join Zhuge Liang's team So Zhuge Liang will desperately suppress In fact, it is not difficult for people who understand the Three Kingdoms to see that Zhuge Liang is also ambitious A large part of Guan Yu's death was caused by him Hehe, I'm sorry, it's off topic In a word, I personally admire Wei Yan Wei Yan is not anti-Shu

  15. Anonymous users2024-01-24

    Wei Yan rebelled when he was shouting: "Who dares to kill me".

  16. Anonymous users2024-01-23

    Yi is in the shadow of the door flag, open the bag and look at it, so and so. Yi was overjoyed, rode out lightly, immediately stepped forward, pointed at Wei Yan and said with a smile: "The prime minister is in Japan, and you will rebel after knowing you for a long time, teach me to be prepared, and now the result should be his words."

    If you dare to shout three times on the horse, whoever dares to kill me will be a true husband, and I will sacrifice the city of Hanzhong and you. Yan laughed and said, "Yang Yi, listen!

    If Kong Ming is in Japan, I am still afraid of him; Now that he is dead, who in the world dares to fight me? Hugh Dao shouted three times in a row, and then called 30,000 times, so what's the difficulty! Then he took up the bridle of his sword and immediately shouted

    Who would dare to kill me? Before he could finish his speech, a person in the back of his head responded sharply: "I dare to kill you!"

    The knife fell in his hand, and he slashed Wei Yan under the horse. Everyone was shocked.

  17. Anonymous users2024-01-22

    was killed by Yang Yi Yang Yi was Zhuge Liang's right and left hand at that time and was in charge of military affairs He and Wei Yan can be said to be Zhuge Liang's right and left hands, but they disagreed privately Zhuge Liang died on the road of the Northern Expedition Wei Yan advocated continuing to attack Yang Yi Jiang Wei advocated the withdrawal of the army There was a disagreement Originally, the two did not agree Yang Yi withdrew the army back to Chengdu in advance to sue Wei Yan for rebellion Wei Yan was furious when he got the news and led the army to chase him Finally, the two met in the Baoxiao Valley Wang Ping scolded Wei Yan in front of the battle: "The prime minister has just died, the body is still warm, how dare you rebel against this" Wei Yan's subordinates heard the news and were chaotic and defected and refused to fight In the end, Yang Yi sent Ma Dai to lead troops to chase and kill the three clans.

  18. Anonymous users2024-01-21

    The author believes that there are two main reasons for Wei Yan's rebellion, one is that Wei Yan is not stable enough in his way of doing things; The other is that Zhuge Liang's incentive moderation has a problem.

    It was not only Wei Yan who was dissatisfied with Han Xuan at the beginning, but Huang Zhong was also dissatisfied, he must have also thought about killing Han Xuan and defecting to Liu Bei. But if he did so, he would not be seen by the world, he would lose the hearts of the people, and his military and political career would come to an end. So he was distressed, pretending to be sick at home, not knowing what to do.

    Presumably he was waiting for a fool to come out and do this unrighteous thing for him. However, Wei Yan's temperament was too fierce, not as much as Lao Huang Zhong thought, and he gave Han Xuan's life with one sword. It can't be said that Huang Zhong is happy at this time, but at least a problem in front of him has been solved.

    And Wei Yan was regarded by others as a person who was easy to rebel because he killed his lord. A boss like Han Xuan, in that situation, will definitely not live long. Even if Wei Yan doesn't make a move, someone else will soon get rid of him.

    Wei Yanda could not get out of his illness, wait for Han Xuan to die and then come out in pain and weeping, and finally return to Liu Bei for the sake of righteousness. What a natural thing, alas! Wei Yancuo is not stable in doing things and is not thoughtful!

    Zhuge Liang is also problematic. Since Liu Bei blocked Wei Yan that day, Zhuge Liang should treat Wei Yan like other generals. But not only did he not seriously consider Wei Yan's "Meridian Valley Plan", but when he was dying, he passed on what he had learned in his life to Jiang Wei, who was less qualified than Wei Yan.

    Wei Yan's personal vision conflicted with the vision of the entire Shuhan Group, and under the incentive mechanism of Zhuge Liang, the leader, his personal vision could not be realized. How can he not rebel!

    To sum up, Wei Yan's recklessness made others regard him as a natural rebel, and because of this, Wei Yan's personal vision was not considered in Zhuge Liang's incentive mechanism, resulting in Wei Yan's personal vision being unable to be realized in Zhuge Liang's group, and could only be completed by himself, that is, rebellion.

    In short, it is an explosion of self-aggrandizement and nowhere to exert one's ambitions.

  19. Anonymous users2024-01-20

    Landlord, read the Three Kingdoms carefully, not the Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Remember!

    The things in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms are all elements of Luo Guanzhong's interpretation. For example, the description of Lu Su, as well as Jiang Gan, etc., are very different from history.

    Including Wei Yan too.

    In fact, in history, Wei Yan was not killed by Ma Dai.

    The reality is. Shu seemed to be fighting a battle, and then when the army was withdrawn, Zhuge Liang deliberately let Wei Yan's army break off. Then Yang Yi suddenly turned around and told the three armies that Wei Yan was going to rebel.

    As soon as the soldiers of the Shu army heard that someone had rebelled, they did not support Wei Yan. As a result, all the soldiers stood in Yang Yi's army.

    Wei Yan became a lonely man, and then a military general went up and killed Wei Yan with a knife.

    Wei Yan's death is actually mainly related to Zhuge Liang's employment.

    You can take a look at the few people promoted by Zhuge Liang, Jiang Wan, Fei Yi, Jiang Wei.

    To put it bluntly, these three people are a character trait, gentle and obedient.

    Zhuge Liang didn't say that he was bad, but he was incompatible with Wei Yan, a sharp-edged arrogant and capable person who couldn't be suppressed.

    It can even be said that Zhuge Liang's employment itself has limitations.

    For example, with Ma Tan, Ma Tan's loss of the street pavilion is a major mistake of Zhuge Liang's employment policy.

    Ma Jian is just a staff officer and is not good at leading troops.

    But Zhuge Liang has a good relationship with Ma Liang, and they belong to the same circle as Ma Yan. All belong to Jingzhou Strategist Group.

    I'll give you a list of three groups.

    Jingzhou Group: Zhuge Liang, Ma Liang, Ma Yan, etc.

    Dongzhou Group: Fa Zheng, Li Yan.

    Yizhou Group: Huang Quan.

    Zhuge Liang said from this point that Liu Bei has more of his heroic bearing and demeanor.

    Zhuge Liang is indeed flawed in employing people.

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