In the era of Empress Liu, why didn t Zhuge Liang raise troops from Jingxiang for the Northern Exped

Jingzhou is a battleground for soldiers, if the coalition army is fine, Eastern Wu will not recapture Jingzhou in a big way, but it also caused the death of Guan Yu, indirectly caused the death of Zhang Fei, and Shu was even more broken. Borrowing land and borrowing soldiers, isn't there a break in the words, Liu Bei borrowed Jingzhou, and he didn't pay it back. Would Soochow do that?

And the ultimate goal of Zhuge Liang and Dongwu is not the same, Zhuge Liang's goal is to recover the Han Dynasty, only because Cao Cao is strong, he will form an alliance with Dongwu, just think, if Dongwu lends troops to Zhuge Liang If he wins, then what is the next goal of recovering the Han Dynasty? It is undoubtedly Dongwu, Dongwu may face Zhuge Liang's face after fighting with Cao Cao with his own soldiers, why bother.

The most critical factor in the alliance between Eastern Wu and Shu is that it is difficult for Shu and Wu to face Cao Cao alone, but for Eastern Wu, the way that benefits it the most is that Zhuge Liang himself goes out of Qishan. If Zhuge Liang wins, then Dongwu himself sent troops from Jingzhou to attack Cao Cao, so what he occupies is his own, so why wait for Zhuge Liang to share.

If Zhuge Liang is defeated, if the defeat is not bad, Dongwu Le sees that both sides are defeated, if it is defeated badly, Dongwu will send troops to contain Cao Cao, so that Zhuge Liang can calmly hind his legs, and Wu cannot leave Shu. But it will not be done according to the strategic intentions of Shu.

Otherwise, simply change it, Zhuge Liang lends troops to Wu, from Qishan, the two sides will attack, divide the world equally, do you think Zhuge Liang will do it, since Zhuge Liang can't agree, why should Dongwu agree.

The Three Kingdoms was originally an era of deceit, when Zhou Yu wanted to recapture Jingzhou by means of a false way, but Zhuge Liang saw through it, and as a result, Zhou Yu was so angry that Zhou Yu's arrow sores burst out, and the introduction led to Zhou Yu's death in the end. Now, it is indeed an alliance with Sun Quan, but, in this era of deceit, can you guarantee that Sun Quan will not secretly communicate with Wei, or listen to the advice of his subordinates at the critical moment, calculate the troops of Shu, and moreover, there is no talk of fighting from other countries, the relationship is not good to this point, if you win a big victory, it is estimated that Sun Quan will not let you return from the original route, and he is afraid that you will destroy him by the way, join the defeat, Sun Quan will also take the opportunity to break the route and attack Shu, so your proposal is absolutely impossible.

First, this is the strategy that Zhou Yu used to attack Jingzhou back then, no matter how sincere Zhuge Liang is, Sun Quan and Lu Xun will not agree Second, the generals of Shu are withering, and no one can stand in the way of this Wei Yan and Li Yan are not trusted by Zhuge Liang Deng Zhi is too young and not brave enough Liao Hua is too old Wang Ping is too cautious and lacks the style of a general Second, Zhang is brave but lacks strategy, and third, Shu has limited troops and can only concentrate a little attack If the division of troops is not as good as Wei Yan's Meridian Valley It is not as good as when Guan Yu was alive The generals are like clouds, and the soldiers are strong and strong.

It is Zhao Yun, and it is a wise choice to send Zhao Yun to Keigu, because the army of Keigu is a suspicious soldier, and it is only Zhao Yun who can make Cao Zhen's re-demolition thinkers look at him. Although Keitani Gao Zheng later lost, Zhao Yun also completed the task.

It was Zhao Yun, but Zhao Yun encountered the Wei army Cao Allah in the Migu Valley and finally Zhao Yun lost the battle, while Ma Wei was in the street pavilion and was defeated by Zhang Hao, Zhuge Liang lost his ground, and had to retreat to Hanzhong, resulting in the failure of Hu Fa in the first Beijian Hall.

It was Zhao Yun, who asked Zhao Yun to lead a small number of soldiers to attract the attention of the main force of the Cao army, but was recognized by the Cao army, so the battle became the only defeat in Zhao Yun's life.

It is impossible for Sun Quan to agree, because he knows that Zhuge Liang is smart, if he borrows the land from Zhuge Liang, who knows if he will borrow Jingzhou like he did back then, the current situation is Cao Weiqiang, and Sun Quan can only cooperate with Shu, even if he is taken away, he can only maintain this situation.

If you don't borrow land, it is not close from Xishu to Jingzhou and then to the front line, and the grain and grass are not available, and it will pass through Sun Quan's territory, and it is unknown whether Sun Quan or his subordinates will take the opportunity to rob grain. So it's better to start from your own turf.

And Zhuge Liang himself is also cautious, if he succeeds in borrowing land, but still doesn't win in the end, how can he explain to Sun Quan?

He wanted to fulfill the wish of the Lords as soon as possible.

In 208 AD, Cao Cao's army marched south to capture Jingzhou, and in August they reached Wancheng, where Liu Biao died of illness. In September, Cao Cao's army arrived in Xinye, and Liu Cong, the second son of Liu Biao, voted for Cao Cao.

At that time, Liu Bei had already retreated to Fancheng, a strategic place on the north bank of the Han River, and was still actively preparing to resist Cao's army. He didn't expect that Liu Cong had already surrendered, and it was he who sent someone to ask, so Liu Cong remembered to send Song Zhong to inform him.

Liu Bei was angry and had no choice but to lead his men to retreat south, and when he passed through Xiangyang, Zhuge Liang suggested that Liu Bei take the opportunity to attack Liu Cong and occupy Jingzhou. Liu Bei said that he couldn't bear to do this kind of thing.

Liu Bei didn't want to take Jingzhou, that was impossible. But the timing was no longer right. If Liu Bei took the opportunity to attack Liu Cong at this time, first of all, Liu Cong was prepared in advance, Liu Bei went to Xiangyang City, Liu Cong had no intention of letting him enter the city at all, and called Liu Cong to come out to talk, but Liu Cong did not come out at all, indicating that he was already wary.

Secondly, Xiangyang City is strong, it is the capital of Jingzhou, and there is a large army of Jingzhou stationed there, Liu Bei's little men, mixed with the people, it is impossible to attack Xiangyang.

If Liu Bei captures Xiangyang, Liu Bei's little men and horses will not be able to keep Jingzhou quietly. Liu Cong's forces in the city and the local forces in Jingzhou will not be optimistic that Liu Bei will be able to hold Jingzhou.

Even if Liu Bei captured Xiangyang, he would besiege Xiangyang City with Cao Cao's army. Liu Bei, Zhuge Liang, Xu Shuye is a good scumbag, Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, Zhao Yun and a few of them, there are only about 10,000 people, even if they are all 10,000 enemies, it is difficult to resist the siege of Cao Cao's army. What's more, Liu Cong's forces and the local forces in Jingzhou were more interested in Cao Cao than Liu Bei.

It is inevitable that there will be things that will be combined inside and outside and betray Liu Bei.

Therefore, if Liu Bei listened to Zhuge Liang's words and captured Xiangyang and Jingzhou in advance, he would inevitably be besieged and attacked by Cao Cao. In that case, there may be no Sun and Liu to unite against Cao, and Liu Bei may be directly made dumplings by Cao Cao, and the development of the situation will be beneficial to Cao Cao. Cao Cao just concentrated his forces on eliminating Liu Bei, and Sun Quan could only watch with a "rabbit dead and a fox sad", not daring to support, waiting to be eliminated.

It shouldn't, personality reasons. Jingzhou passed through the Battle of Chibi and was much bleaker. Opinions differ because of different personalities, and different perspectives on problems.

I don't think we should take Jingzhou, Jingzhou belongs to the center of the mainland, connected to Cao Cao at the top, and Sun Quan at the bottom, and if you take Jingzhou, you will definitely be attacked by Sun Quan and Cao Cao, which is not convenient for recuperation.

Liu Bei should take Jingzhou, this is Zhuge Liang Longzhong's war strategy set at the right time, and it is also the focus of the Northern Expedition, which is much better than going out of Qishan, and it is strategically very important.

Liu Bei should take Jingzhou, because Jingzhou has fertile land and sufficient money and grain. Pang Tong and Zhuge Liang have different opinions because the starting point is different, and there is no right or wrong.

This is because there was a big gap between Liu Bei's strength and Cao Cao at that time, which also made Liu Bei have no chance to defeat Cao Cao at all. In addition, Zhuge Liang had just defected to Liu Bei at that timeThis also made Liu Bei have great doubts about Zhuge Liang's work ability. Liu Bei was very afraid that once he followed Zhuge Liang's advice, it would lead to a fiasco.

At that time, Zhuge Liang was very young and did not have much experience in military affairs.

In fact, most of the things we know about the Three Kingdoms period come from the Romance of the Three Kingdoms, but the description of Zhuge Liang in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms has some exaggerated elementsThis also makes everyone have a very high evaluation of Zhuge Liang's ability. But when Zhuge Liang just defected to Liu Bei, he actually didn't show much ability. For example, the famous Battle of Chibi can almost be said to be determined by Zhuge Liang's ability in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms.

However, we all know very well that in the real battle of Chibi in history, it was actually Zhou Yu's credit. However, the Romance of the Three Kingdoms has a serious situation of respecting Liu and degrading Cao. It also made all of us have a clear understanding of Zhuge Liang's ability.

More importantly, Liu Bei didn't have much trust in Zhuge Liang's ability at that time. At that time, Zhuge Liang was actually very young, just a young man in his 20s.

Of course, it was because the gap in strength was very large, because Liu Bei was under the supervision of Liu Biao at that time, and he did not dare to blatantly develop his military strength, which also made Liu Biao die laterLiu Bei simply did not have the ability to confront Cao Cao. If Liu Bei wanted to confront Cao Cao, he would have to rely on the nobles of the Jingzhou region.

Cao Cao invaded Jingzhou, Zhuge Liang was under Liu Bei, he came up with a strategy, so that Liu Bei took advantage of Liu Biao's death to seize the power of Jingzhou, Zhuge Liang couldn't bear it, at this time Liu Bei lost the opportunity, only defeated. At this time, Liu Bei had to follow Zhuge Liang's proposal to cross Jiangdong to unite with Sun Quan and fight against Cao Cao.

That period. There are many strong people.

They all want to preserve their strength.

The people around Liu Biao don't trust Liu Bei.

Liu Bei didn't want to live under others for a long time.

So Liu Bei didn't want to be too showy.

Zhuge Liang will not give Liu Biao advice.

At this time, Zhuge Liang did not have the ability to change the situation of the battle. Judging from the record of "The Biography of Zhuge Liang in the Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms", since Liu Bei invited Zhuge Liang, who was only twenty-seven years old, out of the mountain in his "Three Visits to the Thatched House", he was still very cautious about his appointment.

The strength is about the same, and it takes courage and wisdom to do it with others in order to win! The strength is equivalent to the gap between heaven and earth, and if you have to do it with others, it is not courage but stupidity! Zhuge Liang has great ability, and it is impossible for him to go to the front line to fight with the enemy in person, right?!

Zhuge Liang proposed many countermeasures: such as secretly supporting Liu Qi and persuading Liu Bei to seize power in Jingzhou. But no matter how to deal with it, it must be in line with Liu Bei's identity and status at that time, and furthermore, with Liu Bei's strength at that time - no more than 3,000 soldiers and horses, and the generals are not passive, it is difficult to achieve a reversal of the situation, Zhuge Liang is a person, not a god, even if he has the material of heaven and earth, the grand goal also needs to be taken step by step, and it can only be achieved by working hard in a down-to-earth manner.

Because Cao Cao was not worried about the strength of Liu Bei's entire army at that time, there was no way to compare with the strength of Cao Cao's army, plus Zhuge Liang had just defected to Liu Bei, and he was not familiar with all aspects, so Cao Cao had a complete grasp.

Dealt with it, crossed the river with the people, didn't fight, and indeed couldn't fight.

The disparity in strength is too great, even if there are ten Zhuge Liang, they are also versatile.

In "Three Kingdoms", there is such a time, Cao Cao invaded Jingzhou. The reason was that Xiahoudun was defeated in Bowangpo, and Cao Cao heard about it, can this be endured? Raised 500,000 troops to invade Jingzhou.

At this time, Liu Biao asked Liu Bei to assist his son in guarding Jingzhou because he was seriously ill. But Liu Biao's son was not angry, and he actually sent Song Zhong to Cao Ying to surrender, wanting to surrender to Cao Cao behind Liu Bei's back.

Later, Guan Yu's men caught Song Zhong, who had returned to Jingzhou, and Liu Bei learned the news of the surrender. At this time, Liu Bei was stationed in Fancheng, which was only one river away from Jingzhou Prefecture.

Cao Cao's army soon entered the hinterland of Jingzhou, and Liu Bei learned the news too late. I had to abandon the city. In this way, someone asked, wasn't Zhuge Liang by Liu Bei's side at that time, why didn't he offer advice to Liu Bei and resist Cao Jun?

Let's look at it this way, first, as I said earlier, Liu Bei learned the news of Cao's invasion too late. Even if Zhuge Liang was resourceful, Zhuge Liang was still too young at that time, and when Liu Bei asked Zhuge Liang to come out of the mountain, Zhuge Liang was only twenty-seven years old. Lack of experience.

How can you come up with a response so quickly.

Second, Liu Bei's army was not enough to resist Cao Cao's army of 500,000. Liu Bei's development in Jingzhou was limited, because Liu Biao secretly monitored Liu Bei when he was alive, and it was difficult for Liu Bei to expand his army. There are not enough people, if Liu Bei wants to resist Cao's army, he must have the cooperation of the local forces in Jingzhou, but Jingzhou has become Cao Cao's territory, how can there be any resistance at all.

As far as Liu Bei is concerned, no matter how great Zhuge Liang's ability and ability are, it is difficult for him to change the existing situation. had to abandon the city and run first.

According to the "Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms: The Biography of Xun Yu", Cao Cao adopted the strategy and tactics proposed by the strategist Xun Yu to "show Wan and Ye and advance lightly to cover his surprise", and soon broke through the defenders' defenses and penetrated deep into the hinterland of Jingzhou. It was not until Cao Cao himself came to Wancheng that Liu Bei learned of the invasion of Cao's army, and Liu Bei had to abandon Fancheng and flee south.

Because it was too late to propose countermeasures, Cao Cao came to the city before Liu Bei knew the news, and the development of his strength was also very limited.

Because it was too late to come up with countermeasures, Cao Cao's soldiers and horses broke through the defenses and penetrated deep into the hinterland of Jingzhou, and it was not until Cao Cao himself came to Wancheng that Liu Bei learned of the news of Cao's invasion.

Although Zhuge Liang was already under Liu Bei, it was too late to take countermeasures at that time, and Cao Cao was already on the verge of the city.