Why are cruisers almost eliminated? Which is better, cruiser or destroyer?

I think if after World War II, people would ask, why did the battleships disappear. In the same way, now someone asks why the cruiser disappeared. You can see what modern cruisers are like when they are used the most, following battleships in large-scale naval battles, and searching for broken relations.

These are all things that cruisers did in the era of capital ships and battleships, because the tonnage, speed, and protection of cruisers are the most balanced, unlike dreadnoughts that pursue firepower and ignore protection, unlike battleships that sail slowly. However, the current form of naval warfare is that the aircraft carrier-centered strike group conducts operations, and the carrier-based aircraft of the aircraft carrier undertakes most of the strike tasks, while the other warships of the fleet are mainly engaged in air defense and anti-submarine operations. Then, people will calculate an account, if the destroyer is large, even if the displacement reaches more than 10,000 tons, then the combat consumption is smaller than that of the cruiser, and the destroyer's combat mode is more comprehensive, it can be seen from this that the destroyer is larger to replace the cruiser can be said to be the trend of the times, just like the aircraft carrier replaced the battleship, it is all due to the renewal of the combat mode caused by the change <>

Whether it is a cruiser or a battleship, it is the division method of the era of giant ships and cannons, and these names distinguish the role of the ** in that era, and there are low-level ships that theoretically can't beat high-level ships if they are killed. And in the era of missiles, as long as the missile is installed, theoretically a missile boat of several hundred tons can also kill tens of thousands of tons of warships, then the fine division of the artillery era is meaningless, and the meaning of modern large ships to expel the multi-purpose is enough, especially after the general vertical is issued, it is even more unnecessary to distinguish, the hull is larger, the electronic equipment is more decorated, and the vertical hair has more holes, and the different uses depend on what bullets you put in the vertical hair. <>

What was eliminated was the name of the cruiser, and the big drive replaced the cruiser function in a sense, in fact, according to the tonnage, the big drive was already a cruiser class.

There are many kinds of cruisers, such as heavy cruisers and light cruisers, as for why they are eliminated, it depends on their respective practicality, let's talk about the simplest first, Prince Eugen, Prince Eugen is a heavy cruiser, his air defense and firepower are very admirable, Prince Eugen's best one is that he has been hit by two nuclear bombs, and he can still use it normally, but the heavy cruiser is too large and seems to be able to compare with the battleship, so in ambushes and side confrontations, the battleship is a weakness, such as speed, the simplest example, Hood was hit by Bismarck's head cannon directly in the ammunition depot **, light cruisers, light cruisers are very suitable for naval combat battleships, escort, ambush, assault, cover, these are extremely best advantages in front of the cruiser, the only biggest flaw is that the armor is not very stable at a long distance, maybe only the existence of the battleship, but the speed of the light cruiser is not worse than the expulsion, so it is also an advantage, there are many disadvantages, sometimes the destroyer's torpedo will fly over in an instant to defeat you, And the cruiser cost and resources also need a lot, especially the heavy cruiser, think about it, if Prince Eugen has two, then he can almost make a Tirpitz, then if the battleship can replace the cruiser, then the cruiser can only be hit by torpedoes and battleships at will, this may be the reason for the elimination of the cruiser (if you are wrong, please don't spray, after all, I am an army deer).

Because the current guide drive is too good, the cruiser has no value in existing.

In fact, the current ** rely on missiles, torpedoes and artillery for attack and defense, unlike the previous era of large ships and huge guns, which require large-caliber artillery to attack targets and heavy armor defense, and now the electronic equipment is very advanced, does not require much personnel to operate, more modern and technological. Therefore, the tonnage can be smaller, and it can also perform various tasks, which is more suitable for the needs of the modern navy. Therefore, the former large cruiser battleships did not meet the needs of today's naval warfare and withdrew from the stage of history.

Because cruisers and large 10,000-ton destroyers are now only different in name, and the destroyers that can do what cruisers can do can also do and cheaper.

The level of science and technology has improved, the strategic changes in national defense have been changing, the tonnage is getting higher and higher, the tonnage of destroyers has also reached the height of light cruises, sooner or later there will be a direct appearance of sea fortresses, and in the end only frigates and submarines remain.

Let's first analyze from the birth of cruisers, battleships are huge, cruisers are light, most of the cruisers in the era of sail fought alone, the purpose of the existence of cruisers is to patrol and suppress colonies on the high seas, it can be said that cruisers are a kind of ships that can fight alone. In addition, modern cruisers are mainly used as a supplement to battleships, after all, battleships are often mobilized, for example, there is no need to send tanks to catch a few thieves and robbers, and large-scale battle tanks will not rush forward by themselves, and battleships are tanks on the sea, and cruisers are infantry fighting vehicles on the sea. In modern warfare, the navy often uses aircraft carriers as the core group operations, we often hear that a certain aircraft carrier battle group, as a escort, cruisers have been used as a vent, but the development of anti-ship missiles and anti-aircraft missiles and the miniaturization of radar make destroyers and even frigates can be competent for the work of cruisers, countries around the world have gradually found that there is no need to build large cruisers, in addition to Russia can not afford to raise multiple aircraft carriers, the original positioning of cruisers has been replaced by more cost-effective small ships.

Of course, more countries in the world today have realized the importance of the big drive, but the big drive is a destroyer after all, as the destroyer gets bigger and bigger, the way to distinguish ships by tonnage is outdated, and the big drive can only be regarded as the development of the destroyer, just like the screen of the mobile phone is not a TV no matter how big it is, although the big drive is very much like a cruiser, it is not a cruiser after all.

Because now the tonnage of destroyers is almost at the level of cruisers, and cruisers are also positioned for ocean-going operations, why can destroyers do cruisers, just like battleships, abandoned by the naval combat system.

The functions of the cruiser were replaced by modern expulsions, and the large tonnage meant high maintenance costs, which were not as cost-effective as relatively small tonnage expulsions. Modern warfare throws missiles, and there are certain requirements for ship mobility, and cruiser mobility is insufficient.

Since the advent of aircraft carrier-based aircraft, battleships and cruisers will inevitably withdraw from the stage of history, and similarly, in the near future, if the endurance of fighters is improved, it will be a matter of time before aircraft carriers withdraw.

With guidance **, the target is too big.

Without uniqueness, it is inevitable to be eliminated.

It's just a false proposition, a ship with a large tonnage is naturally a cruiser!

Before the widespread use of aircraft, the fleet could only rely on cruisers for long-distance reconnaissance, and with the widespread use of aircraft, shipborne radar and missiles on ships, cruisers have become useless.

This is a false proposition, today's large destroyers (Bock, 055) and the like are similar to World War II cruisers in terms of tonnage and role (theater command, boat nanny, regional air defense, etc.), just under a different name.

So to say battleships are not more worth studying.

The Ticonderoga class wasn't eliminated, was it?

There is no obvious difference between contemporary cruisers and destroyers, and the displacement of destroyers has begun to develop towards more than 10,000 tons. For example, the "Moskva" cruiser in the Russian-Ukrainian war was sunk by Ukraine, on the one hand, NATO's electromagnetic interference and intelligence provision, and on the other hand, Ukraine launched missiles, this "Glorious" class does not even have the ability to resist, and it is not needed for 12 supersonic anti-ship missiles.

The American Ticonderoga air defense cruisers have been gradually replaced by Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, with a displacement of basically between 9,000-10,000 tons. The displacement of the DDG1000 Zumwalt destroyer reached 15000 tons.

The most important criterion for the division of light cruisers and heavy cruisers is the caliber of the main guns, and the difference in tonnage and protection between light cruisers and heavy cruisers with 6-inch guns (light guns) and 8-inch guns (heavy guns) is not the main criterion for their division.

To expand to the point of view, the classification of sea ships during World War I and World War II was basically divided by combat mission. For example, the destroyer is the first to undertake the escort mission, of which the frigate with a small tonnage can only perform escort tasks in the coastal sea, and the destroyer with a larger tonnage can perform escort tasks in the ocean; Battleships are on fleet artillery duel missions; A slow-moving aircraft carrier that performs the task of escorting merchant ships is an escort aircraft carrier, and a fast aircraft carrier that can accompany the fleet's actions is a fleet aircraft carrier, which is divided into large, medium, and small aircraft carriers according to their displacement.

For light cruisers and heavy cruisers, the tasks of the two types of ** are to carry out combat missions on the ocean alone - although the destroyer can also sail in the ocean, because of the limited fuel it loads, it needs to be accompanied by a slow fuel supply ship, and cannot perform ocean patrol missions. Because the combat missions of light cruisers and heavy cruisers are basically the same, they are both in wartime to carry out combat patrol missions in the ocean and strike at the opponent's shipping lines, so the division is not mainly based on tonnage (light cruisers also have a higher tonnage than heavy cruisers because they need to carry a large amount of fuel for a long time) and armor protection (the main combat mission of cruisers is to patrol and break relations, not to fight against the opponent, so armor protection is not a high priority in design), the reason is according to the caliber of the main gun (light artillery Heavy artillery) is because when the cruiser performs the task of breaking diplomatic relations, it often needs to attack the civilian ports and coastal cities of the opponent's mainland or its colonies, and for a large number of targets that lack the protection of heavy naval fortress batteries in peacetime, they can only rely on the temporary deployment of army field units for protection in wartime, and the limit of the artillery caliber that the army's field artillery can use is 6 inches, and no matter how large the caliber is, it is difficult to carry out field maneuvers because it is too heavy. Therefore, in the treaties restricting naval armaments during the First and Second World Wars, cruisers were divided and restricted in this way, and cruisers using 6-inch light guns were relatively easy to counter because they had about the same range as the 6-inch guns of the army, and had no advantage in artillery battles against land artillery in wartime; On the contrary, cruisers armed with 8-inch heavy guns, because of their longer range, could attack the civilian ports and coastal cities of hostile countries without land counterattacks, and countries like Great Britain, which had a large number of overseas colonies, made a distinction in the arms treaty from cruisers equipped with 6-inch light guns, and imposed additional restrictions, so that other countries could not use heavy cruisers to effectively attack their overseas colonies in wartime.

A cruiser leads a destroyer into battle, like a squad leader with a few fighters, what do you think?

Let's talk about it briefly.

Differences in appearance: cruisers: the largest hull, the foredeck is relatively slender, and the superstructure is relatively tall; The cruiser is a multipurpose large and medium-sized surface warship second only to the battleship in terms of displacement, artillery, armor protection, etc., it has a high speed and ocean-going maneuverable combat capabilities.

Destroyers: short foredeck and short superstructure; Destroyers are medium-sized with missiles, torpedoes, naval guns, etc. as the main **, with a variety of combat capabilities. It is one of the most powerful ships in the navy, which is used to attack submarines and surface ships, fleet air defense, as well as escort, reconnaissance patrol vigilance, minelaying, attack on shore targets, etc.

Purpose (task) difference:

Cruisers: Typical characteristics are ultra-long endurance, capable of fighting across seas and oceans, powerful ground-to-ship attack output firepower, including naval guns and ship-based ground-to-ground cruise missiles, and certain air defense and anti-submarine capabilities.

Destroyer: Defense-oriented, focusing on one defense capability, such as strong air defense capability, strong anti-submarine capability, covering fleet navigation, and protecting fleet security.

Well, having said all that, here's what matters! It's all!

Now the line between destroyers and cruisers is becoming more and more blurred (this sentence is the point!). ）。The difference between cruisers and destroyers a long, long time ago was the caliber and tonnage of artillery, cruisers had more guns, larger calibers, and larger tonnage, while destroyers had fewer guns, small calibers, and less tonnage.

In the era of missiles, because large-caliber main guns gradually lost their role as main battle weapons under the impact of aircraft and missiles, it was no longer possible to distinguish warships by the caliber of the main guns (the current mainstream "large-caliber" naval guns are 127 130mm, and many destroyers are even smaller, such as the British 114-mm naval guns). At present, the tonnage of destroyers has gradually increased, even surpassing cruisers in the traditional sense, such as Japan's Kongogai, which has reached the level of 10,000 tons.

The destroyer has actually become the workhorse of the ocean-going surface fleet and is one of the most powerful surface warships besides aircraft carriers. Thus, the distinction between cruisers and destroyers will also gradually annihilate and merge into one.